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Old 06-10-2013, 06:10 AM   #1
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Game of Thrones S3E10 06/09/2013 'Mhysa'

They really short-changed us on Jaime's return. I wanted to see Tywin's reaction!

I was wrong about Tyrion and Sansa going to Winterfell, but it sure looks like Arya is going down the path of being a killer.

And now we know how Edmure spent his wedding night and Blackfish is still alive.

How did Arya get behind the guys that put the direwolf's head on Robb's corpse? that part was a little forced.

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I always re-watch, but what did they say about Edmure?
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:20 AM   #3
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I always re-watch, but what did they say about Edmure?
He's a guest in Frey's dungeon.
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question: is it normal to know right away that a newborn is not going to be a "normal" adult?

Once again, Tywin runs away with the father of the year award!
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:57 AM   #5
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question: is it normal to know right away that a newborn is not going to be a "normal" adult?

Once again, Tywin runs away with the father of the year award!
I think it was more about his wife dying during the birth.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:15 AM   #6
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Tyrion was described as being a monstrous baby with hideous features. I am sure that played a part in it as well.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:20 AM   #7
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Well that was very anti-climactic after last week!

First, that was so not okay at the beginning having Grey Wind's head on Robb's body parading through the streets. Poor Arya she's no way turning out to be normal in the head. She's seen so much. And now she's actually murdered someone in revenge. No going back now!

Jon Snow and Ygritte.
This broke my heart
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I get that he has to return to Castle Black but what are they going to do if they find out he broke his oath? This can't be the last we see of Ygritte! I wish he could have taken her with him but so many reasons that can't happen. Ah doomed love.

Davos! Wow I'm a bit in love with this character. He's so damn loyal to Stannis and I have no idea why!! Once again Stannis was about to toss him aside because he does the right thing. I wish he got more screen time but then that means Stannis gets more too.

Poor Sansa. I think she was just starting to come around a bit to Tyrion. Now she'll just lump him in with the rest again. Did Tywin actually suggest he raper her to get her pregnant? Disgusting. Why can't someone stab him in the face already? But this did make me laugh, not gonna lie.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:21 AM   #8
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question: is it normal to know right away that a newborn is not going to be a "normal" adult?

Once again, Tywin runs away with the father of the year award!
I had to look it up but it says that especially if the dwarfism is of the disproportionate variety (normal size trunk, short limbs) it can be apparent at birth. I'm sure his mother dying did not earn him any bonus points.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:32 AM   #9
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Didn't Arya kill a boy in season 1? I'm pretty sure she did. I guess killing in self-defense is different from killing in anger/revenge; but it's still not her first "kill".

Even with Joffrey in the room, Tywin sat at the head of the table
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Didn't Arya kill a boy in season 1? I'm pretty sure she did. I guess killing in self-defense is different from killing in anger/revenge; but it's still not her first "kill".

Even with Joffrey in the room, Tywin sat at the head of the table
Yes, but note she said it was the first "man" she had killed. The other was a boy.
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Yes, but note she said it was the first "man" she had killed. The other was a boy.
Well, come on now!

I took the question to mean "is this the first time you've killed someone?", not making a distinction between boy, man, girl, or woman!
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:40 AM   #13
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I always re-watch, but what did they say about Edmure?
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He's a guest in Frey's dungeon.
been meaning to circle back to that...note that Frey is now in charge of Riverrun (part of the deal with Tywin, it seems), so I'm not sure why Edmure is still alive at all; unless Frey needs him to retain control of the Tullys' men or something.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:42 AM   #14
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Well, come on now!

I took the question to mean "is this the first time you've killed someone?", not making a distinction between boy, man, girl, or woman!
That was the question The Hound asked and what he intended for it to mean, but I think in her mind she made the distinction. She even answered by saying "The first man."
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been meaning to circle back to that...note that Frey is now in charge of Riverrun (part of the deal with Tywin, it seems), so I'm not sure why Edmure is still alive at all; unless Frey needs him to retain control of the Tullys' men or something.
Frey may be the new lord of Riverrun on paper, but I don't see how he actually has it in his possession quite yet. I don't imagine whomever was left behind will open the gates for their new lord without a bit of discussion. Edmure could be of some use yet.
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Well, come on now!

I took the question to mean "is this the first time you've killed someone?", not making a distinction between boy, man, girl, or woman!
The whole point was that she was making the distinction that this is the first time she had killed a man.
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Well that was very anti-climactic after last week!
Someone I know "in real life" told me the exact same thing. I'm glad that the season didn't end with a Red Wedding cliff hanger. I think this episode, while not really giving closure, set up for the coming break.

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Jon Snow and Ygritte.
This broke my heart
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I get that he has to return to Castle Black but what are they going to do if they find out he broke his oath? This can't be the last we see of Ygritte! I wish he could have taken her with him but so many reasons that can't happen. Ah doomed love.
When Jon told Ygritte that he knew she wouldn't hurt him, I could not help but think to myself that obviously Jon has never read anything written by GRRM. You know nothing, Jon Snow!



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But this did make me laugh, not gonna lie.
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I've watched the small council meeting three times already. There were some great lines! As usual, Tyrion had the best lines. The part where he asked a grinning Joffrey if he had been killing puppies and the other when he told him that kings were dropping like flies.

On another note, this scene also made me realize just how much the actor that plays Joffrey looks like the the actor that play Tywin. Very realistic. That's a good thing since Joff has a double dose of Tywin genes.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:13 AM   #18
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I dunno. I don't have a lot more to say.
I loved the "You just sent the king to bed without his supper" line.

If/When Tyrion dies it will be a sad sad day.
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I've watched the small council meeting three times already. There were some great lines! As usual, Tyrion had the best lines. The part where he asked a grinning Joffrey if he had been killing puppies and the other when he told him that kings were dropping like flies.
Loved the Grand Maester pretending to be old and frail and dropping the R-mail to the floor so Tyrion would have to pick it up. Those subtle hostilities, with the accompanying facial expressions of those around (well, except for Tywin's stone face) showing their amusement is priceless.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:27 AM   #20
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Once again, Tywin runs away with the father of the year award!
I dunno, with Papa Greyjoy, Tywin has some real competition.
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I've watched the small council meeting three times already. There were some great lines! As usual, Tyrion had the best lines. The part where he asked a grinning Joffrey if he had been killing puppies and the other when he told him that kings were dropping like flies.
Fantastic scene all around. The actor who plays Joffrey was great as well. Between the acting of the three (Joffrey, Tywin, Tyrion) and the writing, I was thoroughly delighted.
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I thought there was going to be a fun surprise ending. I don't think the mildly disturbing messiah scene counts. Surely the first time we got nothing suspenseful in the closing moments?

How long has it been such that Jamie is still wearing his arm in a sling?
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The whole point was that she was making the distinction that this is the first time she had killed a man.
In Arya's defense, the first person (kid), was an accident.
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The Theon scenes are getting pretty disturbing, at least his sister wants to save him.

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Poor Sansa. I think she was just starting to come around a bit to Tyrion. Now she'll just lump him in with the rest again. Did Tywin actually suggest he raper her to get her pregnant? Disgusting. Why can't someone stab him in the face already? But this did make me laugh, not gonna lie.
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I dunno. I don't have a lot more to say.
Joffrey . "I am NOT TIRED" right after he basically announces to the entire small council that he's not the rightful king (not Robert's son) and his mother sleeps with her brother.

(Sure there were plenty of rumors; but that's different that publically claiming Jamie as your father -- by listing all his accomplishments in the war while saying "my father did...")
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Joffrey . "I am NOT TIRED" right after he basically announces to the entire small council that he's not the rightful king (not Robert's son) and his mother sleeps with her brother.

(Sure there were plenty of rumors; but that's different that publically claiming Jamie as your father -- by listing all his accomplishments in the war while saying "my father did...")
I thought Joff's references to his father were about Robert, who also had a lot of accomplishments in the war against the Mad King. Does Joff even know who his real father is?
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Joffrey . "I am NOT TIRED" right after he basically announces to the entire small council that he's not the rightful king (not Robert's son) and his mother sleeps with her brother.

(Sure there were plenty of rumors; but that's different that publically claiming Jamie as your father -- by listing all his accomplishments in the war while saying "my father did...")
Huh? I was pretty sure he was talking about Robert. Robert was instrumental in the war.
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I thought it's obvious he meant RB, too.
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I've watched the small council meeting three times already. There were some great lines! As usual, Tyrion had the best lines. The part where he asked a grinning Joffrey if he had been killing puppies and the other when he told him that kings were dropping like flies. ..
Tyrion is hands down the best character and Peter Dinklage the best actor in the show.

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Joffrey . "I am NOT TIRED" right after he basically announces to the entire small council that he's not the rightful king (not Robert's son) and his mother sleeps with her brother.

(Sure there were plenty of rumors; but that's different that publically claiming Jamie as your father -- by listing all his accomplishments in the war while saying "my father did...")
I must not have a good head for details as to who won what wars. I thought he was talking about Robert when he said those things.
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Well they explained why Sam dropped the dragon glass knife after killing the White Walker, he had spares. This episode was more to set up next season than to conclude the last one.

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I must not have a good head for details as to who won what wars. I thought he was talking about Robert when he said those things.
Joffrey was definitely talking about Robert, Joeffry's real mistake was telling Tywin that he spent the war "Hiding in Casterly Rock", when it was Tywin's army (combined with his false offer of support) that got the Mad King to open the gates of Kings Landing thereby sealing his doom.

And to be honest, JAmie hasn't done a lot in the current war.

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