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Old 06-03-2013, 10:29 PM   #1
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Revolution - The Dark Tower 6/3/2013

Why would Randall shoot himself in the head after all that?

Bet the nukes don't go off - malfunction or some miraculous shutdown.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:39 PM   #2
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even though he sees himself as a patriot he probably realizes others will see him as one of the greatest war criminals in history
he knows they will eventually break through the glass and he will be executed, maybe slowly
so better to die quickly

as for the nukes,
is it possible for them to turn the bugs back on and sap the electricity from them so they lose their guidance and detonation systems ?
nukes won't blow up just by falling from high altitude, they need to be triggered
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:40 PM   #3
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Why would Randall shoot himself in the head after all that?
I guess he figured mission accomplished, and he didn't want to starve to death in the control room, since he was never getting past the very angry people with super-guns on the other side of the door.

I noticed they didn't show the Prez...to be cast at a later date, I guess?
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:42 PM   #4
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Why would Randall shoot himself in the head after all that?

Bet the nukes don't go off - malfunction or some miraculous shutdown.
Like Randall said, he was a patriot and he basically had no chance of getting out of there without being captured and probably tortured for info.

As for the nukes, my bet is they shut the power off again. That's the only thing they can do from outside. They could turn the power off and then after the nukes crash, turn it back on. Somehow I doubt that's what the writers will come up with though.

Interesting though that the U.S. rebellion wasn't just rebels, but the actual old Government.

Wasn't Randall originally in the tower when the power went off though?

Finally we still don't know who set it up so that the power would go out using that back door code that Aaron talked about.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:52 PM   #5
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Why would Randall shoot himself in the head after all that?.
Same reason he shot the launch button (*). If he's dead, he can't be convinced/forced to abort the detonation. There's no stopping him now..

And yah, they're going to turn the power back off to stop the detonation. Then then the control room will mysteriously fritz out, and they'll spend the rest of the second season searching across the continent for the emergency backup control room which they'll find at the end of the season.

* (On second thought, that was maybe an abort button? That would make more sense... kinda...)
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:01 PM   #6
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As for the nukes, my bet is they shut the power off again. That's the only thing they can do from outside. They could turn the power off and then after the nukes crash, turn it back on. Somehow I doubt that's what the writers will come up with though.
More likely, they'll leave it off because we've proven that we're too violent and mean and nasty to be trusted with power, because when we get the power back on, within seconds we send off nukes.

There's also the side effects that we saw in the desert outside...if the weather continues to go nuts, they might HAVE to turn it off/leave it off to prevent it from getting worse.

In fact, that might be the route they (the writers) go...let the nukes hit, take out Phillie and Atlanta, set up a whole new group of players, and then have to turn the power off again to save the world from the side effects when they get out of hand.

The cool thing is, it's pretty wide-open right now, and with a new set of very good, high-profile writers coming in, they can pretty much establish any kind of status quo they want at the beginning of Season 2. I doubt THEY know what they're going to do; I'd bet money they didn't know when they wrote this finalé, or rather, that whatever they had in mind is now irrelevant. It's a new era coming.
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high profile writers coming in?
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high profile writers coming in?
I don't know if I'll be able to cope with that.

The ridiculousness of some of the 'plot' points is part of the show's charm. I kinda like it that way...
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They better not turn the power back off! We spent an entire season turning it on. If it goes back off again I'm going to burn my TiVo.

I think they can keep it interesting for a couple of more seasons with a post-apocalyptic world that has had no power for 15 years.
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:41 AM   #10
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Where's the obligatory "How was the infrastructure still in place that would enable all the lights to come back on" post?
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Not sure, perhaps they're busy thread crapping on AVS.
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:57 AM   #12
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well I'll start by saying thats not how the electrical grid works.

So they literally rebooted for season 2. Is it our little band against the old Government now? Monroe will be redeemed for sure with that speech that Miles gave in the tent.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:28 AM   #13
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I don't know if I'll be able to cope with that.

The ridiculousness of some of the 'plot' points is part of the show's charm. I kinda like it that way...
Well, it's the same creator/show-runner. So maybe he'll be able to mix the best of Revolution as it exists with elements of, y'know, well-written television.
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Where's the obligatory "How was the infrastructure still in place that would enable all the lights to come back on" post?
Been there, done that, every time one of the amulets kicked in.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:54 AM   #14
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Blind Faith...

ANY show that opens with Blind Faith and "Can't Find My Way Home" is a winner with me...

Quite the season finale....tried to figure out who the prez is from the dark image...difficult.
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:42 AM   #15
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Like Randall said, he was a patriot and he basically had no chance of getting out of there without being captured and probably tortured for info.

As for the nukes, my bet is they shut the power off again. That's the only thing they can do from outside. They could turn the power off and then after the nukes crash, turn it back on. Somehow I doubt that's what the writers will come up with though.

Interesting though that the U.S. rebellion wasn't just rebels, but the actual old Government.

Wasn't Randall originally in the tower when the power went off though?

Finally we still don't know who set it up so that the power would go out using that back door code that Aaron talked about.
My money is on Ben setting it up so all the power would go out, he was the one saying that it was all going to turn off in the first episode.
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I don't think Aaron's "back door" into his code told him who was responsible for deliberately turning off the power. I think it just gave him his access to find that information embedded in the other programming code.

I hope someone knows how to make concrete, so they can fill up that hole at the front door of the tower. I think it's pretty stupid that they would have that big ass door and not have the framework around it reinforced to prevent exactly what the bad guys did to gain access.

And yeah, don't get us started on where all that power is coming from when the lights came back on.

I thought the squeaking ceiling fan was a nice touch.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:50 AM   #17
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If they turn the power back off immediately I'll be disappointed.

They have a wealth of opportunity right now.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:25 AM   #18
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Where's the obligatory "How was the infrastructure still in place that would enable all the lights to come back on" post?
Soon as the power came back on I told my wife that I couldn't wait to check out the people complaining on the Tivo board

I really liked the last 5 minutes with the nukes and the New America.

Sadly, Randall is right and they do need to clear out those towns to start over.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:27 AM   #19
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possible spoiler for next season but probably doesn't have anything to do with the plot

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I did read on the Revolution Facebook page that next season will be filmed in Austin, TX.....so maybe next season will focus on the Texas territory....or maybe it was just cheap to film there, I don't know.

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So, Miles is out to kill Bass for pretty much the back half of the season. But he won't now . . . because you're my brudder? In fairness, though, he did try to have him killed by yelling that he was escaping.

It's convenient that the ICBMs were all fueled up in the bullpens and had regular maintenance on the warheads. Cuz, ya never know when you might need to nuke certain parts of the country. And, obviously, the coordinates were already in the system for Philly and Atlanta.

Miles was pretty smart using rounds on the glass that would disintegrate on impact and not ricochet back into the room killing everybody.

I can't believe it, Aaron. That girl's standing over there listening and you're talking about back doors!?!
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I can't believe it, Aaron. That girl's standing over there listening and you're talking about back doors!?!
Geez.

Mr. PotatoHead!, Mr. PotatoHead!, Back doors are not secrets!

I know that movie way too well!
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They better not turn the power back off! We spent an entire season turning it on. If it goes back off again I'm going to burn my TiVo.

I think they can keep it interesting for a couple of more seasons with a post-apocalyptic world that has had no power for 15 years.
This is a show about people dealing with life without power. If they keep the power on then this show just becomes any other generic action show but with a more interesting backstory. I think that in order to maintain the premise of the show, they've got to turn the power back off.

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Where's the obligatory "How was the infrastructure still in place that would enable all the lights to come back on" post?
Should have been the first post of the thread. It's not like there was "leftover" electricity in all the transmission wires that was just waiting to be pushed down to everyone's homes. Even homes with generators wouldn't have electricity because that motor wouldn't run after sitting idle for 15 years.

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ANY show that opens with Blind Faith and "Can't Find My Way Home" is a winner with me...
Like the song, but thought that opening was super cheesy. Either do a "previously on" segment or don't, but to just have a musical montage makes no sense.
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This is a show about people dealing with life without power. If they keep the power on then this show just becomes any other generic action show but with a more interesting backstory. I think that in order to maintain the premise of the show, they've got to turn the power back off.
I thought this show was about "Revolution". Maybe this season was a chapter about dealing with life without power. The next season can be about coping with getting power back but the underlying theme would be "Revolution" and the change of power.
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Soon as the power came back on I told my wife that I couldn't wait to check out the people complaining on the Tivo board
Yes, my thoughts also!!


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It's convenient that the ICBMs were all fueled up in the bullpens and had regular maintenance on the warheads. Cuz, ya never know when you might need to nuke certain parts of the country. And, obviously, the coordinates were already in the system for Philly and Atlanta.
Yes, but this goes hand in hand with power just waiting to go into peoples appliances and not taking into account that the power generation grid has been idle for 15 years. So of course the ICBMs are ready to go and with new targeting info!

The above two points along with MANY similar technical silliness will just make most of us roll our eyes!!! The ONLY way to watch this show is to roll your eyes and then forget about it and move along. If it affects you more than that you shouldn't be watching it.


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I really liked the last 5 minutes with the nukes and the New America.
Sadly, Randall is right and they do need to clear out those towns to start over.
Yes, I agree on both counts!!

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I'll say this by prefacing that it doesn't bother me, just fun to think about...

Wouldn't it take longer than 2 minutes for ICBMs to reach Philly and Atlanta from CO?
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I'll say this by prefacing that it doesn't bother me, just fun to think about...

Wouldn't it take longer than 2 minutes for ICBMs to reach Philly and Atlanta from CO?
It's gonna take MONTHS....
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It's gonna take MONTHS....
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I'll say this by prefacing that it doesn't bother me, just fun to think about...

Wouldn't it take longer than 2 minutes for ICBMs to reach Philly and Atlanta from CO?
Not when it takes them 1 day to walk from Atlanta to Philly....LOL
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I'll say this by prefacing that it doesn't bother me, just fun to think about...

Wouldn't it take longer than 2 minutes for ICBMs to reach Philly and Atlanta from CO?
Actually, according to some Googling, ICBMs travel approximately 4 miles per second, and Colorado Springs to Philly is about 1,700 miles, so it would take about 7 minutes. 1,400 miles to Atlanta, so only about 5.5 minutes.
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Do we know who was playing (or voiced) the role of the President at the end?
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