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Old 03-10-2014, 08:24 AM   #271
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They had one lady on during the 90's show and Alex said that she was pregnant when she was last on the show then the contestant said that kid was now 10 yo. I'm assuming that she must've been on a reunion show after the 90's or that she was mixing her kids up.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:29 AM   #272
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They had one lady on during the 90's show and Alex said that she was pregnant when she was last on the show then the contestant said that kid was now 10 yo. I'm assuming that she must've been on a reunion show after the 90's or that she was mixing her kids up.
Not if she was on in 2003 which was the 2nd "decade" of the show
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:20 PM   #273
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(who's Don Pardo again?)
I think you're joking, but he just turned 93 IIRC, and I think he still does the announcing for SNL.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:12 AM   #274
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I think you're joking, but he just turned 93 IIRC, and I think he still does the announcing for SNL.
Yeah, I was, because well, for me, Jeopardy was always done by Trebek. I have no idea what the earlier shows were done, though I think I have Weird Al's music video which shows a parody set with someone behind the game board removing the wager, revealing the question.

Like I said, I only seen the "modern" version, which always used TV screens. I wonder if someone's actually documented the technology they used to use over the decades it's been on.
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Old 03-11-2014, 07:24 AM   #275
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I'll have to hope this link is working as my work computer blocks inline YT.

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Nope. You didn't format the tag right. All you need between the tags is the sequence of numbers/letters after the v=.

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Old 03-11-2014, 08:43 AM   #277
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Yeah, I was, because well, for me, Jeopardy was always done by Trebek. I have no idea what the earlier shows were done, though I think I have Weird Al's music video which shows a parody set with someone behind the game board removing the wager, revealing the question.

Like I said, I only seen the "modern" version, which always used TV screens. I wonder if someone's actually documented the technology they used to use over the decades it's been on.
Don Pardo wasn't the host of "vintage" Jeopardy, he was the announcer, like today's Johnny Gilbert. Art Fleming was the host (and he gets name-checked in Weird Al's song as well, "Art Fleming gave the answers, I just couldn't get the questions right-ight-ight").
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:56 AM   #278
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And the show never was what Merv Griffin really wanted it to be, which is really giving the answers instead of the question.

Merv's example was A: 5280. Q: How many feet in a mile.

There's no way to have kept that up. So the show quickly changed to just asking the questions in a roundabout matter.
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Old 03-11-2014, 09:08 AM   #279
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And the show never was what Merv Griffin really wanted it to be, which is really giving the answers instead of the question.

Merv's example was A: 5280. Q: How many feet in a mile.

There's no way to have kept that up. So the show quickly changed to just asking the questions in a roundabout matter.
Yeah, that's crazy. Too many correct questions. "What is 528 times 10" would work too.
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Yeah, that's crazy. Too many correct questions. "What is 528 times 10" would work too.
It would have to make sense in the category. Maybe Measurements for that one or Roger Banister.
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It would have to make sense in the category. Maybe Measurements for that one or Roger Banister.
"How many square feet is a 528 foot by 10 foot rug?"
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That's a pretty big rug!
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This line of thought reminds of Carnac The Magnificent.
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:55 PM   #284
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Old 03-14-2014, 11:14 PM   #285
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You kids get off my lawn! Yep, I remember catching "Jeopardy!" back in the 1970s occasionally, but the main ones I watched were "The Price is Right" and "Match Game". Thanks for the link to the 1974 J!, though.

"Concentration" was another one I liked; the 1970s version was the one I grew up with, but like a lot of shows of the era, the original videotapes are gone.
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Old 03-15-2014, 06:59 PM   #286
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"Concentration" was another one I liked; the 1970s version was the one I grew up with, but like a lot of shows of the era, the original videotapes are gone.
Rumor has it that most if not all of the 1970s version of "Concentration" does survive (the 1980s "Classic Concentration" with Alex Trebek is definitely still around) -- but "Concentration" has never shown up on Game Show Network because, since NBC holds the rights, it's never been part of GSN's licensing of various Goodson-Todman-produced content.
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Wow.

Woman today was going into FJ ahead, got the question correct, and lost because she didn't bet enough.

Going into FJ

12,400
15,200
14,400

All three got it correct
12,400 bet 12,000 = 24,400
14,400 bet 14,400 = 28,000
15,200 bet 10,000 = 25,200.

What a horrible, nonsensical bet. It made no sense at all.

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Old 03-17-2014, 07:03 PM   #288
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Wow.

Woman today was going into FJ ahead, got the question correct, and lost because she didn't bet enough.

Going into FJ

12,400
15,200
14,400

All three got it correct
12,400 bet 12,000 = 24,400
14,400 bet 14,400 = 28,000
15,200 bet 10,000 = 25,000.

What a horrible, nonsensical bet. It made no sense at all.
Crazy. You have to bet as if you're going to get it right and so are the others. If you do that and everyone gets it right, you still win. If you do that and you get it wrong and they get it right, you were going to lose anyway. If you do that and everyone gets it wrong, you'll still win. So betting something other than 13,601 makes no sense in her situation.
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:32 PM   #289
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Maybe she wanted a lifetime supply of Aleve instead of the money.
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All three got it correct
12,400 bet 12,000 = 24,400
14,400 bet 14,400 = 28,000 [JS edit: should be 28,800]
15,200 bet 10,000 = 25,000. [JS edit: should be 25,200]

What a horrible, nonsensical bet. It made no sense at all.
Crazy. You have to bet as if you're going to get it right and so are the others. If you do that and everyone gets it right, you still win. If you do that and you get it wrong and they get it right, you were going to lose anyway. If you do that and everyone gets it wrong, you'll still win. So betting something other than 13,601 makes no sense in her situation.
Why 13,601 rather than 12,801?

15,200 + 13,601 = 28,801. But you only need to win by $1; right?
edit: wait something's not adding up with Turtleboy's original numbers. 15,200 + 10,000 != 25,000. So I'm not sure what number you were working from to get 13,601
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Thanks, I fixed my post.

But she still only bet $10k.
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All of the bets made little sense. #1 person supposed to bet 13600. Bet for the tie like Arthur Chu showed us. I understand the rationale now, if you bet for the tie, this encourages #2 guy to bet it all to get it right, get the money, and come back, this way you win if the other contestants bet all and everyone gets it wrong. If you are known not to bet for the tie, 2nd person has no reason to bet all. Then they should bet to cover the 3rd guy and ignore you, since you have to be wrong for them to win. So should bet 10400 here.

#3 person should basically bet nothing in this scenario, and hope the other two get it wrong. Or maybe bet 2000, that would be fine. In third place you want to win when everyone gets it wrong, not only when you are the only correct person.

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Why 13,601 rather than 12,801?

15,200 + 13,601 = 28,801. But you only need to win by $1; right?
edit: wait something's not adding up with Turtleboy's original numbers. 15,200 + 10,000 != 25,000. So I'm not sure what number you were working from to get 13,601
If 1st place had $15,200 and 2nd place had $14,400, then 1st needs to bet $13,601 in order to get to $28,801 which is one dollar more than 2nd place can get if s/he goes all in.

And there's another mistake in TB's post, in that he says 2nd place had $14,400 and bet $14,400 but only ended up with $28,000. If he adds the extra $800, then my numbers will make sense to you.
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This discussion of the last episode needs a reset on the numbers. I had watched it, I thought I had understood the errors as they happened in the final betting, but these messages have me all confused. Damned if I'm going to find a copy and watch the end again!
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This discussion of the last episode needs a reset on the numbers. I had watched it, I thought I had understood the errors as they happened in the final betting, but these messages have me all confused. Damned if I'm going to find a copy and watch the end again!
I TiVo it.

Category: Bodies of Water

Clue: More than 1/5 of all the world's people live in countries bordering this, the world's biggest bay.

Spoiler:
What is the Bay of Bengal?


All three get it correct.


Jen Cosgrove: $15,200+$10,000=$25,200

Gordon Graham: $14,400+$14,400=$28,800...now a 1-day champion with $28,800

Thad McCollum: $12,400+$12,000=$24,400
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She needed to bet 13,600 to tie and 13,601 to win.

Yes, if they all got it wrong she would have won with $5,200. But betting that everyone will get it wrong is not a good strategy. At least one person gets FJ correct a vast majority of the time.

It looks like that she didn't even think about it. She didn't read up or study J! strategy before going on the show (or forgot it). She just picked a round number.

I'd be interested in seeing interviews with her or if she posts to some of the J! forums.
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For much more "iocane powder" type analysis, see a site called The Final Wager.

http://thefinalwager.co/2014/03/17/f...march-17-2014/

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She needed to bet 13,600 to tie and 13,601 to win.

Yes, if they all got it wrong she would have won with $5,200. But betting that everyone will get it wrong is not a good strategy. At least one person gets FJ correct a vast majority of the time.

It looks like that she didn't even think about it. She didn't read up or study J! strategy before going on the show (or forgot it). She just picked a round number.

I'd be interested in seeing interviews with her or if she posts to some of the J! forums.
This seems to go against strategy that others have posted in here. Or I'm remembering things wrong.
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If 1st place had $15,200 and 2nd place had $14,400, then 1st needs to bet $13,601 in order to get to $28,801 which is one dollar more than 2nd place can get if s/he goes all in.

And there's another mistake in TB's post, in that he says 2nd place had $14,400 and bet $14,400 but only ended up with $28,000. If he adds the extra $800, then my numbers will make sense to you.
Yep, I just realized I make the mistake I thought you had.
For 2nd I'd only looked at the total and missed that $800 was missing from it. Oops.

In any case we all agree on that the person in 1st going into final jeopardy picked a nonsensical (and ultimately losing) betting strategy.
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She needed to bet 13,600 to tie and 13,601 to win.

Yes, if they all got it wrong she would have won with $5,200. But betting that everyone will get it wrong is not a good strategy. At least one person gets FJ correct a vast majority of the time.

It looks like that she didn't even think about it. She didn't read up or study J! strategy before going on the show (or forgot it). She just picked a round number.

I'd be interested in seeing interviews with her or if she posts to some of the J! forums.
I wonder if she simply did the math to figure out how much she needed to bet to beat $12,400, forgetting that there was someone with $14,400 as well. Seems like it might be easy to get those two mixed up and have a brainfart. My recording cut off just as they were revealing the correct FJ answer, so I didn't get to see her reaction.
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