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Old 04-13-2015, 08:34 AM   #1
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Mad Men - "New Business" S07E09 OAD 4/12/15

Oh, Harry. You are a bumbling fool with the way you tried to pick up Megan. I thought she was gonna throw her glass of wine on him. Or maybe slap him.


Her mom gets pissed and decides to have to movers take EVERYTHING. And then she hooks up with Roger again after he gets her out of a jam. And Megan finds out.


I still don't get what Don is doing with this waitress.

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Old 04-13-2015, 09:42 AM   #2
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I swear this wasn't here when I started a thread too.

Outdone by Smeek!

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Old 04-13-2015, 09:43 AM   #3
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Wondering how much time has passed since last episode as Don's new lady (Diana) had time to go back to Wisconsin, get divorced, and get a new job...all while Don was stalking her return.

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Old 04-13-2015, 10:25 AM   #4
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Sepinwall says it was about a one month gap between these episodes...according to the May 1970 date on the million dollar check Don gave Megan.

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Old 04-13-2015, 10:26 AM   #5
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And I'll join the chorus of people who don't quite get Diana's character just yet.

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Old 04-13-2015, 10:48 AM   #6
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And I'll join the chorus of people who don't quite get Diana's character just yet.
I don't get it yet either, but I bet it is going to be something that takes him home to his roots. We just don't know it yet. Why he's attracted to her in the first place I'm not sure, but I do get that her story is not a whole lot different than his once we start to know it. She's a broken woman in the way he's broken. She basically ran away from her family and her life spiraled away after the death of her daughter. She came to NY to start over, but she's still obviously broken. So maybe this is just about two broken people finding each other?

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Old 04-13-2015, 12:19 PM   #7
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I didn't understand the level of animosity Megan had developed towards Don. I had previously thought it was an amicable split between them.

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Old 04-13-2015, 12:34 PM   #8
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I didn't understand the level of animosity Megan had developed towards Don. I had previously thought it was an amicable split between them.
Her career is on the skids after she bailed on the NY soap opera in favor of moving to LA with Don. Don ditched the California plan and now she has to put up with scum like Harry to be able to get back into the business she never would have had to leave if it weren't for Don. She wouldn't be an unemployed actress were it not for Don.

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Every recap/review of this episode I've read this morning pans it....universal dislike for this one.

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Her career is on the skids after she bailed on the NY soap opera in favor of moving to LA with Don. Don ditched the California plan and now she has to put up with scum like Harry to be able to get back into the business she never would have had to leave if it weren't for Don. She wouldn't be an unemployed actress were it not for Don.
The one problem I have with this is that she wanted to stay in LA when Don decided to move back. She had gotten very much into the lifestyle, so much that when Don came out, he knew she wanted to stay because of the parties and so forth that she was into. So how can she blame Don for it? It was her decision to stay and not move back with him.

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The one problem I have with this is that she wanted to stay in LA when Don decided to move back. She had gotten very much into the lifestyle, so much that when Don came out, he knew she wanted to stay because of the parties and so forth that she was into. So how can she blame Don for it? It was her decision to stay and not move back with him.
Exactly. Don was still trying to make the relationship work and she basically told him not to bother any more and that she was done. She seemed to prefer living the California life without having the day-to-day hassles of dealing with Don.

Fast forward to this episode and she's begging for money and resentful of him. Didn't make sense at all.

Imagine what a slap in the face Don felt as he walked into his apartment to find the place completely gutted after he was so generous to give Megan $1 million. They appeared to be in the lawyers office when he gave her that check. That seemed very careless of him to give her than money without having her sign some kind of acknowledgment/release.

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Old 04-13-2015, 01:53 PM   #12
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I didn't understand the level of animosity Megan had developed towards Don. I had previously thought it was an amicable split between them.
It was. Thanks, Harry.

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I don't get it yet either, but I bet it is going to be something that takes him home to his roots. We just don't know it yet. Why he's attracted to her in the first place I'm not sure, but I do get that her story is not a whole lot different than his once we start to know it. She's a broken woman in the way he's broken. She basically ran away from her family and her life spiraled away after the death of her daughter. She came to NY to start over, but she's still obviously broken. So maybe this is just about two broken people finding each other?
But he didn't know any of that stuff until after he had tracked her down at here new job, invited her to his apartment, etc.

The initial thing was "Hey, is that Rachel Menken?"

and it wasn't. Thought it would have been over there. But it's not.

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Old 04-13-2015, 04:32 PM   #14
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If these last two episodes would have been the first two episodes of the Series, I would have deleted the SP already.

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Old 04-13-2015, 05:39 PM   #15
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I'm having trouble remembering why I liked this show. This was worse than last week, and last week was pretty bad.

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Old 04-13-2015, 06:41 PM   #16
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I'm in the "don't like" camp too, I'm just sticking around for the end now.

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Old 04-13-2015, 06:52 PM   #17
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I'm in the "don't like" camp too, I'm just sticking around for the end now.
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:24 PM   #18
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it seems that every storyline not involving Don is just a waste of time. Will anything change
with anyone else?

I would hope at the very least, we would see Peggy achieve some high level of success. But instead we see her getting hit on by another woman. Again.

What's the point of a scene with Betty?

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Old 04-13-2015, 09:35 PM   #19
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They need to put Joan back in charge of the secretaries, they used to be so much more compentent.

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I was watching last night with a girl who had never seen the show before. It was kind of funny explaining what was going on:

That's Don's ex-wife (Betty).

That's Don's other ex-wife (Megan).

That's a lady Don had an affair with (Sylvia in the elevator).

That's a lady Don just met and banged in an alley (Diana).

That's Don's ex-wife's mom who is having an affair with Don's partner.

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That's a lady Don had an affair with (Sylvia in the elevator).
That's a lady Don just met and banged in an alley (Diana).
That's Don's ex-wife's mom who is having an affair with Don's partner.
So pretty much the same plot as all late night Skinemax movies.

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Old 04-13-2015, 11:10 PM   #22
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I'm having trouble remembering why I liked this show. This was worse than last week, and last week was pretty bad.
Comments like this kind of buffalo me, to be honest. Mad Men always starts on a slow burn (and I liked last week's episode). Yet every year people complain about it out of the gate. This is the show. This has always been the show.

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Old 04-13-2015, 11:27 PM   #23
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I liked the bits with Peggy, Stan, and the photographer. I also enjoy Marie and knew as soon as Megan out her in charge the apartment would be stripped.

I am not interested in Diana and I don't get what Don thinks he sees or needs in her, some hope that's the last of it.

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What's the point of a scene with Betty?
To allow Don to reflect on the happy nuclear family that he doesn't have and is not a part of.

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Comments like this kind of buffalo me, to be honest. Mad Men always starts on a slow burn (and I liked last week's episode). Yet every year people complain about it out of the gate. This is the show. This has always been the show.
Agreed, it's always been a slow burn show, I think in the year since the last episode people develop a fondness thus forgetting that we have this discussion every spring.

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I like the episodes/segments where it sticks more to the advertising business aspect of things. Yeah these jaunts into their dysfunctional lives are interesting, but it shouldn't be the focus of the majority of the episode.

I did get a laugh when Diana called in middle of the night and Don was in his PJ's and in the next shot he was all dressed up in his suit going to the door.

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Comments like this kind of buffalo me, to be honest. Mad Men always starts on a slow burn (and I liked last week's episode). Yet every year people complain about it out of the gate. This is the show. This has always been the show.
This is not "starts on a slow burn"....this is still season 7 which began last year...we're now more than halfway through the final season.

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This is not "starts on a slow burn"....this is still season 7 which began last year...we're now more than halfway through the final season.
And this is it, we're at the end, and I'm completely confused as to where this is going, I've lost almost all interest in the stories and sub-plots, I just want to get to the end.

If this were not the final season I would probably stop watching.

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I kind of feel that the vast majority of shows I watch, by the time we get to season 7 or so, we are usually pretty bored of the characters or storylines. It is really hard to do something original at this point of most series, and especially one where there isn't a lot of action, just character studies. So essentially we get the same old. It's boring, but it's going to be over soon. I'm still interested enough in the characters that I'll stick with it.

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This is not "starts on a slow burn"....this is still season 7 which began last year...we're now more than halfway through the final season.
Exactly, and IMHO, last year's first half already wasn't up to the standards we've come to expect. I'm hanging in there to see where the characters end up, but in our house it rapidly moved from Must Watch Immediately status to Do You Feel Like Watching Mad Men? status.

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I didn't understand the level of animosity Megan had developed towards Don. I had previously thought it was an amicable split between them.
I just rewatched the first half of this season and they seemed to flip flop on Megan then too.

At first I thought they broke up on the phone but then they seemed back together but then it was over but amicable. But now she's resentful.

I'm confused too!

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