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Old 07-31-2013, 03:05 PM   #1
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POV: Neurotypical (documentary on PBS)

PBS Premiere: July 29, 2013

Online: July 30, 2013 – Aug. 28, 2013

http://www.pbs.org/pov/neurotypical/...escription.php

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Neurotypical is an unprecedented exploration of autism from the point of view of autistic people themselves. Four-year-old Violet, teenaged Nicholas and adult Paula occupy different positions on the autism spectrum, but they are all at pivotal moments in their lives. How they and the people around them work out their perceptual and behavioral differences becomes a remarkable reflection of the "neurotypical" world — the world of the non-autistic — revealing inventive adaptations on each side and an emerging critique of both what it means to be normal and what it means to be human.
Interesting but also frustrating documentary talking with people on various parts of the spectrum.

The part which resonated with me the most strongly was Wolf, talking about how he's happy with himself the way he is, and how he wouldn't want to be 'cured'. Why indeed should he have to justify himself to others? Shouldn't he have the same right to just be himself as anyone else?

IMHO we spend far too much time shoving people into narrow little categories instead of appreciating them for their strengths and unique qualities.

One obvious problem is that the documentary maker toys with the idea of presenting how Neurotypicals look to people on the spectrum, and while some of the interviewees speak to that topic, he doesn't actually make that film. It would be a real eye-opener to have autistic people make a documentary about neurotypical people as if neurotypicals were the disabled ones. I'd like to see that film.
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Old 07-31-2013, 03:53 PM   #2
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I've been meaning to watch this.

Primarily since I work at a company that's mostly engineering PhDs, and we've got more than a little autism spectrum and ADHD behavior around here.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:25 AM   #3
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I just have not gotten around to it yet. I would have liked to have been able to read people and have relationships. But I am retired from decent "nerd" jobs. But it also depends on how disabled you are. I know a person with college degrees that works in a sheltered workshop with low IQ people because his social skills are nonexistent. So I would want to change some things about myself but not everything. Better social skills are a good thing but would magic meds make me less intelligent or less interested in nerdy things?
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:32 AM   #4
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Wolf talked about having to be Joe Normal at work everyday (his psuedoNeurotypical persona) but then we got home, he could be himself. He said if he were in a relationship, he would have to be "on" at home too, and the only time he could be himself was when he was asleep.

It reminded me of maltese's thread Tips for how to make an introvert feel better during a group type A vacation? , and the pressure we put on others who are even the slightest bit different from ourselves to conform to our personal 'standards'.

In that thread, Tedd quoted someone from an article in WSJ:

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"If you're introverted and act extroverted, you will be happier. It doesn't matter who you are, it's all about what you do," said William Fleeson, a psychology professor at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, N.C.
If that makes me say "screw you, why should I have to act like someone I'm not" then how do the people in the film feel?

Neurotypicals really need to get over themselves.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:51 PM   #5
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Hmmm, introvert acting like an extrovert. I would not even know how to do that.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:34 PM   #6
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This program is available on RoKu's PBS channel.
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Hmmm, introvert acting like an extrovert. I would not even know how to do that.
Ingesting large quantities of beverage alcohol has been known to be of temporary assistance in that department.


But this method does have its drawbacks.
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LOL. Why did the parents laugh at the teenaged sin? His behavior seemed like typical shlubby teenaged behavior.
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LOL. Why did the parents laugh at the teenaged sin? His behavior seemed like typical shlubby teenaged behavior.
Was that supposed to be teenaged son?

(I'm assuming you meant the scene where he leaves the dinner table.)

They may have laughed because it did seem like typical schlubby teenaged behavior.
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That was what my sister said also. He seemed like a normal surly teenager to me.
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