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Old 05-08-2013, 09:10 PM   #1
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Survivor Caramoan : OAD 5-8-2013 - "Don't Say Anything About My Mom"

Poor Brenda, I almost feel sorry for her.

Honestly, I would not have given my reward away to the other 4. It was a terrible strategic move because it made her way more likable in a Final 3.

Cochran with his mother chitchatting about her flight and whatnot was great.

Anyway, finalé on Sunday, right? I would love to see Cochran win. At this point, I think any of them except Sheri could win it.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:13 PM   #2
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I don't see dawn winning. I can see anyone else winning, including Sherrie. It feels like this is cochran's to lose though.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:26 PM   #3
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Brenda just learned an expensive lesson. Never give up in an immunity challenge this close to the end. I have the impression Brenda could have held out longer against Dawn.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:26 PM   #4
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I don't want Dawn or Sherrie to win.

I'd be OK with Eddie or Erik winning. But of course I'm rooting for Cochran.

I feel sorry for Malcolm though. I think most any other year, he'd win the fan favorite award. This year, I think Cochran is a shoe-in.
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:31 PM   #5
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Go Cochran!

Loved his commentary about his dad and about all the things that have happened in his life since he and his mom started watching Survivor.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:11 PM   #6
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I definitely did not have the YES!!! type of emotion tonight that usually comes with a blindside. I know it's part of the game, and well played on the part of the others, but I totally understand how Brenda feels completely betrayed.

I wonder how that will affect her at final tribal. Part of me thinks that given a bit of time she'll see it as part of the game and not be vindictive, but there's another part of me that thinks she may just go all Susan Hawk on somebody (or everybody). I just don't see Brenda that way, though.

I AM beginning to wonder if Dawn will even be able to keep it together these last couple of days!
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:19 PM   #7
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Brenda was screwed either way, and I felt for and was rooting for her... any allegiance with Cochran is gone for me, I'd be happy with Sherri or Eddie now over the rest.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:31 PM   #8
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Brenda was screwed either way, and I felt for and was rooting for her... any allegiance with Cochran is gone for me, I'd be happy with Sherri or Eddie now over the rest.
This. It was cold blooded what Cochrane and Dawn did to Brenda.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:57 PM   #9
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I agree, but think it was a much harsher move by Dawn than Cochran. Brenda was under the impression Dawn was her closest ally, they had shared a lot of moments together (the teeth, the non-family reward etc), and then Dawn betrayed that. Brenda was planning to turn on Cochran the next day, and he knew it, so I don't have any problem with Cochran wanting to blindside Brenda...
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:21 AM   #10
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Brenda just learned an expensive lesson. Never give up in an immunity challenge this close to the end. I have the impression Brenda could have held out longer against Dawn.
I agree. I think that was her mistake, not giving away the reward. I think giving away the reward was the right move, but she did not realize the target that put on her back. It was a great move from the jury perspective, but a threatening one for the remaining contestants. She should have known she would need immunity from then on.

I think it's anybody's game but Dawn's. I'm pulling for Eddie at this point. As much as I hated the conceit of the "cool kids" alliance at the start, he's been an underdog for so long I'm rooting for him now.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:25 AM   #11
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So did Erik get a coconut or what?
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:58 AM   #12
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I don't want Dawn or Sherrie to win.

I'd be OK with Eddie or Erik winning. But of course I'm rooting for Cochran.

I feel sorry for Malcolm though. I think most any other year, he'd win the fan favorite award. This year, I think Cochran is a shoe-in.
This.

For Cochrane it was a classic move, get out Brenda before she gets you out.
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:36 AM   #13
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I'm so confused about Cochran's strategy. Maybe he had Dawn in the bag and there was never really any question how she was going to vote. But if there was ever a doubt, or even just for insurance purposes, why didn't someone tell Eddie to vote for Brenda? You'd think Eddie would be glad to have anyone tell him what's going on at this point.

I don't have any problem with the blindside this week. Sure, it was cold blooded, but that's what you have to do to win Survivor. And I'm rooting for Cochran, so I was glad to see him take out his biggest threat.

Only problem is, Eddie has 3 automatic votes on the jury (Michael, Malcolm, Reynold), and given what happened last week, I wouldn't be surprised if Andrea would vote for him as well. So Cochran has got to be careful that Eddie doesn't win a couple immunities and sneak his way into the finals. Of course, Eddie hasn't done well in a challenge yet this season, so the chances of him winning two in a row are pretty remote.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:50 AM   #14
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Cochran is probably my second least favorite player left in the game.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:22 AM   #15
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So did Erik get a coconut or what?
Nope, that tree was way too tall. Got pretty far up though.

What confuses me: He had plenty of food at the reward challange and then was ready to throw the immunity challange for food. Did he learn nothing from giving away his immunity idol?
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:45 AM   #16
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I guess this is Brenda fans vs Cochran fans.

I'm in the Cochran camp I guess. I agree with what vman posted. Brenda has to feel the most betrayed by Dawn, but Cochran was just making sure he survived. I don't think I've seen many take getting voted out as hard as Brenda did though. I think it's gonna be an interesting reunion show.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:02 AM   #17
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The jury is the point though. You can do great in the game and then get flummoxed at the jury votes.

Though, who does Cochran have from team stealth- Phillip? not sure who else.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:14 AM   #18
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This. It was cold blooded what Cochrane and Dawn did to Brenda.
Isn't one of the primary objectives to outlast?

Doesn't that mean voting other players off?

Isn't the objective of the game to WIN?

I'm not sure what is cold-blooded about voting someone off in a game where the objective is to vote someone off?!??
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:28 AM   #20
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Isn't one of the primary objectives to outlast?

Doesn't that mean voting other players off?

Isn't the objective of the game to WIN?

I'm not sure what is cold-blooded about voting someone off in a game where the objective is to vote someone off?!??
Thank you. So she was shocked that she was lied to in a game where you advance by lying to people? Come on!
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:41 AM   #21
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This. It was cold blooded what Cochrane and Dawn did to Brenda.
Dawn yes... but Cochran? We saw a whole scene at the beginning where Dawn, Erik, and Brenda were talking about voting him out. Obviously Cochran wasn't one of Brenda's close allies!
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:03 AM   #22
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I'm so confused about Cochran's strategy. Maybe he had Dawn in the bag and there was never really any question how she was going to vote. But if there was ever a doubt, or even just for insurance purposes, why didn't someone tell Eddie to vote for Brenda? You'd think Eddie would be glad to have anyone tell him what's going on at this point...
My wife and I said the same thing when we saw the votes. My guess is that maybe Cochran was afraid Eddie would go to Brenda and try to stir things up by letting her know she was being targeted. Then maybe those two would go after each other and everyone would forget about Eddie?
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:24 AM   #23
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The big question this episode was: Who will be more irritatingly overwrought with their histrionics, Dawn or Sherry? Dawn, of course, won hands down.

In contrast, I thought Brenda's comments after the vote and at the show's end were quite touching. What a sweetheart. Her display of emotion was genuine and therefore quite moving, whereas Dawn's constant histrionics are all about self-pity and getting attention. I find her to be one of the most irritating players in the history of the game.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:11 AM   #24
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I bet Brenda really regreted giving up the reward when she was stuck on the island having to listen to Dawn blubber.
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How cruel was it to have that BBQ just off the camp beach?
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:44 AM   #26
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Of course it's a game. Of course you sometimes have to lie. But it's also a game of alliances. Bad karma all around...I hope!
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:52 AM   #27
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Of course it's a game. Of course you sometimes have to lie. But it's also a game of alliances. Bad karma all around...I hope!
Was it bad Karma that got Brenda for talking about voting off Cochran?
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Only problem is, Eddie has 3 automatic votes on the jury (Michael, Malcolm, Reynold), and given what happened last week, I wouldn't be surprised if Andrea would vote for him as well.
Don't assume too much about the jury will vote; we have been surprised too many times.

I think Reynold will vote for his bro no matter what, but I don't think Michael and Malcolm have much of a bond with him.
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Am I the only one who thinks that Cochran & Mom didn't really push themselves in the reward challenge because they didn't want to win?
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Cochram is certainly smart enough to honor the "never win the family challenge" rule. But I don't think they stood a chance anyway.
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