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Old 05-05-2013, 10:26 PM   #1
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Mad Men "For Immediate Release" S06E06 05/05/13

I loved this episode!

Peggy's terrible apartment - she's so desperate to make things work with Abe because she thinks that's what she wants when it's just making her miserable.

When Teddy kissed Peggy I shouted "No!" And then when she got dolled up to go see him and was blindsided by Don, ouch. She finally went out on her own and out from Don's shadow and she's right back there.

I loved Don telling off Herb but I loved even more Joan telling off Don.

I loved getting to see Roger do what Roger does.

Peter and his FIL going nuclear on each other was amusing. Peter throwing a hissy fit on the phone was funny. It was a little sad, Bert was just in Peter's office praising him for helping run a great business, then less than 24 hours later he's lost Jaguar and Vick's. It was interesting that Trudy was softening to him but it was more important for Peter to get even than save his marriage.

The scene in the bar where Don and Teddy share their pitches was great. I really like Teddy, except when he's hitting on Peggy. (It might just be I like the actor.)

Now we see why Harry Hamlin was cast as Cutler. What will the new agency be? Will the merger work out?

SCDP-CGC?

This episode was heavy on plot with one great scene after another, and light on character development. I bet the critics will like it less because of that. But it was a bridging episode - shaking everything up with a ton of plot developments to lead into new character struggles in the remaining half of the season.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:31 PM   #2
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Oh and Pete falling down the stairs was hysterical. Vincent is a great physical actor.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:41 PM   #3
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OH! Last comment. (I'm rewatching it right away.)

Megan freaking referenced Don jumping off the balcony. We saw him standing on it ominously last episode. The opening credits of the show are him falling. Now it's actually been spoken aloud. Will the series end with Don's suicide off the balcony?

There's one more season, right?
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:53 AM   #4
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For those who didn't look it up, XP-887 is the Chevy Vega.

It's interesting that while one group of partners were working on a secret IPO, the other partners went and merged with a competitor. Both groups will have lots to yell at the other about next week.

It was also interesting that they mention Bobby Kennedy, and they gave us an actual date: May 17th, 1968. Less than three weeks before his assassination. ( Spoiler for those who skipped history class).

And while there was no drama about him showing up, Dr. Rosen walks into the Draper's apartment in his robe to borrow some wrapping paper. Last week Don was calling around trying to see if he and the Mrs. were Ok. Now we know, but odd we didn't see any of her this week.
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:03 AM   #5
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:51 AM   #6
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Peggy's terrible apartment - she's so desperate to make things work with Abe because she thinks that's what she wants when it's just making her miserable.
I figured the primary result of Abe and Peggy moving to the Upper West Side was going to be a few episodes of "this old Tenement" as Peggy gets stressed out about it.

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I loved Don telling off Herb but I loved even more Joan telling off Don.
Especially since in several ways, that was her client. Although if things work out, she'll be glad to see them go.

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Peter and his FIL going nuclear on each other was amusing.
I liked the "Anyone have a cough drop?" line.

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It was a little sad, Bert was just in Peter's office praising him for helping run a great business, then less than 24 hours later he's lost Jaguar and Vick's.
Had we seen Pete's new office yet this season?

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For those who didn't look it up, XP-887 is the Chevy Vega.
Carol was shocked that I knew that without looking it up. What's sad is that by the mid-70s having the Vega account will be a liability.

Random aside: I'm pretty sure they filmed the GM lobby scene sort-of on location: that looks a lot like the Fisher Building, across the street from Cadillac Place, which is where GM headquarters would have been in 1968 (now government office buildings, and being renovated, so that's probably why they didn't shoot there). I'm 95% certain this was a location shot, since if they faked it, they would probably have made it look more like Cadillac Place.

And while there was no drama about him showing up, Dr. Rosen walks into the Draper's apartment in his robe to borrow some wrapping paper. Last week Don was calling around trying to see if he and the Mrs. were Ok. Now we know, but odd we didn't see any of her this week.[/quote]
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I loved Don telling off Herb but I loved even more Joan telling off Don.
It did not take long for Joan to get a taste of her own medicine. Previously, she fired a secretary without first consulting a highly interested party in the matter. Now, Don fires a client, without first consulting Joan (and others), a highly interested party in the matter.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:27 AM   #8
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With Roger and Don, does that make for a majority vote for the merger? It'll be interesting to see what Bert, Pete, and Joan have to say about it. By the way, what ever happened to Lane Pryce's share - who got that? I guess they left his name up there for appearances.

The Chevy Vega? Well they could do worse, I suppose. No, wait, they couldn't. The Vega was a total POS. But, hey, at least SCDPCGC is on their way up.

It didn't surprise me that Pete went nuclear. He puts revenge above character. Pete, you're almost back in with wonderful Trudy and you go to a brothel?

Jeez, somebody needs to give Megan's mom a happy pill. That woman burns with cynicism.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:39 AM   #9
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With Roger and Don, does that make for a majority vote for the merger? It'll be interesting to see what Bert, Pete, and Joan have to say about it. By the way, what ever happened to Lane Pryce's share - who got that? I guess they left his name up there for appearances.
I did wonder this one. Partners dying is usually pretty bad for a business if they didn't insure for it, since either they've got to buy them out (as they showed us in this very episode with CGC) or end up having a partner that's not active in the business (like Bert's sister in the original SC)
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The Chevy Vega? Well they could do worse, I suppose. No, wait, they couldn't. The Vega was a total POS.
It wasn't immediately obvious it was a POS. It, IIRC, the 1970 Motor Trend Car of the Year (although, for that matter, it was rather a harbinger for some of the crappy cars of the 1970s. Maybe SCDP-CGC will land the Nova account next....)

I also got a chuckle that both SCDP and CGC's pitches mentioned "power". Yeah, baby, that legendary Vega power. All 80 HP of single-carb, single-camshaft goodness! 0-60 in 18 seconds. Feel the raw power!

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I don't think Teddy (and I doubt Don told him) knew they just lost two big accounts. I wonder how that will stress out the merger as well.

I was also surprised that Don shared his pitch. It seemed out of character to me.
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By the way, what ever happened to Lane Pryce's share - who got that?
I think the other partners bought his shares, with the proceeds going to the widow. I don't know how his shares were distributed, but I guess Don, Roger, and Bert all bought some.
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I don't think Teddy (and I doubt Don told him) knew they just lost two big accounts. I wonder how that will stress out the merger as well.

I was also surprised that Don shared his pitch. It seemed out of character to me.
Jaguar shouldn't matter since it would have been conflicted out anyways (once they got Chevy)
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I was under the impression that they spent the night before the pitch consulting with the other partners. I can't believe Don and Riger have enough votes and would make the call on their own especially after what happened with Jaguar.

Previews for next week:
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They are notoriously worthless, but it doesn't seem we'll longer on any SCDP infighting - CGC is already moved in. I think the deal was approved by all.

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Jaguar shouldn't matter since it would have been conflicted out anyways (once they got Chevy)
Oh, good point.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Don/Roger had a majority of shares.

Joan got a 5% interest, and for some reason 12% sticks in my mind for Pete.
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This just happened to be something I saw a couple weeks ago. It shows the unique way they shipped Vegas by rail car.
http://toolmonger.com/2013/04/23/its...hevy-stacking/
They had to design in some special features of the car and it's engine so it could stand on it's nose without everything leaking out.
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This just happened to be something I saw a couple weeks ago. It shows the unique way they shipped Vegas by rail car.
When I first read that, I was wondering how they could ship a city full of hotel casinos by train...
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It wasn't immediately obvious it was a POS. It, IIRC, the 1970 Motor Trend Car of the Year (although, for that matter, it was rather a harbinger for some of the crappy cars of the 1970s. Maybe SCDP-CGC will land the Nova account next....)

I also got a chuckle that both SCDP and CGC's pitches mentioned "power". Yeah, baby, that legendary Vega power. All 80 HP of single-carb, single-camshaft goodness! 0-60 in 18 seconds. Feel the raw power!
I think, it was a decent success in the early days. We were just starting to see some of the Japanese cars make some headway in the market and the original Beetle was a success in that market.

Knowing what we know now, the marketing strategy they were talking about was all wrong for that car. But they didn't even know much about the car when they made their pitch.
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That was great. Exactly how people actually fall down the stairs[1] as opposed to the dramatic somersaulting down the stairs they usually do on TV.

[1] Based on vast personal experience.
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That was great. Exactly how people actually fall down the stairs[1] as opposed to the dramatic somersaulting down the stairs they usually do on TV.

[1] Based on vast personal experience.

Hmm....vast [/b]personal[/b] experience? Are we still in one piece, then?
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For those who didn't look it up, XP-887 is the Chevy Vega.
I thought it might be the Chevy Monte Carlo (the other car model Chevy introduced in 1970).

Altough it does make more sense for the show for the combined agencies to get a car that'll have major issues. Wouldn't want things to go too easy for Don & Co.
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Jeez, somebody needs to give Megan's mom a happy pill. That woman burns with cynicism.
Megan's mom is the sexiest woman on the show.

I'm curious to know who owns what percentage of SCDP stock.
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Megan's mom is the sexiest woman on the show.

I'm curious to know who owns what percentage of SCDP stock.
They bought out the Price but left his name on the door. I am guessing SCD own the real majority and Cooper is kinda OK with whatever Don and Roger do.
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Did SDCP have an account with Jaguar the manufacturer ? Or the NYC area Jaguar dealer(s)?? The guy Don had dinner with and fired seems like he was a dealer guy. I think it's pretty common for local area dealers (as a group) to have ad campaigns that are separate from the actual manufacturer. And of course, individual dealers certainly have ads too.

What exactly is the nature of the relationship SDCP had?
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What exactly is the nature of the relationship SDCP had?
I was wondering about that, too. In a previous episode, it sounded like the client was Jaguar, not just the dealer. But in this episode it seemed like the dealer was speaking for the entire company. And last season, the dealer was the one Joan had to sleep with to get Jaguar as a client. Perhaps I have forgotten some special relationship this guy had with Jaguar, other than just as a dealer?
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Did SDCP have an account with Jaguar the manufacturer ? Or the NYC area Jaguar dealer(s)?? The guy Don had dinner with and fired seems like he was a dealer guy. I think it's pretty common for local area dealers (as a group) to have ad campaigns that are separate from the actual manufacturer. And of course, individual dealers certainly have ads too.

What exactly is the nature of the relationship SDCP had?
As we saw a couple episodes ago, Herb only had a small say in the Jaguar decisions. Remember when Don was meeting with Herb and the two Brits and Don talked about how radio ads would help bring truck drivers to Jag dealerships? That's exactly what Herb wanted, but the Brits were repulsed by the idea.
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As we saw a couple episodes ago, Herb only had a small say in the Jaguar decisions. Remember when Don was meeting with Herb and the two Brits and Don talked about how radio ads would help bring truck drivers to Jag dealerships? That's exactly what Herb wanted, but the Brits were repulsed by the idea.
Well not quite. Herb wanted local radio ads to advertize his dealership instead of national Jaquar ads that advertized the brand (more business for him with that personalized exposure). Don pitched it in a way that made made sure the Brits hated the idea because SDCP wasn't interested in radio ads, they wanted to get the exposure from the national ads.

But Herb definitely had a lot of pull because they had to do what he asked them to do (push for the radio ads) even though Don (much to Pete's displeasure) did it in a way that countered Herb's desire. So I'm not sure exactly what the relationship was but Herb certainly had to at some level be in charge of who got the ad business even though he didn't have total control over what was done.
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I guess that there were very few Jaguar dealers in the US in the late 60s and as the owner of one of the biggest dealerships, Herb had a lot of pull. Just a guess.

Don and Roger merged SCDP without telling the other three partners. Burt, Pete and Joanie planned on taking the firm public without telling Roger and Don. That's one bleeped up management group.
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I thought it might be the Chevy Monte Carlo (the other car model Chevy introduced in 1970)...
That was my guess, too.
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