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Old 03-14-2013, 05:13 PM   #151
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That's a bad anology. The budget includes salaries. Everyone involved is making a buck. They are not working for free.
My guess is that this will be similar to "Doctor Horrible," in which everyone will make at or as close to scale as permitted by the union, but the contracts will be back-loaded to distribute some of profits (if any) back to the actors, crew, etc. That's the only way I can imagine a motion picture like this can be made for this little.

Scale is about as close to free as possible.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:17 PM   #152
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Update 3 from Rob Thomas:

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You asked for it, you've got it!

A New York City premiere and after party!

An Austin, Tx Southern Fried Rob Thomas Friends and Family Jubilee and Premiere.

And more spots for extras in a the movie. Now more even more value when you and a friend do it together!

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Old 03-14-2013, 05:17 PM   #153
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That's a bad anology. The budget includes salaries. Everyone involved is making a buck. They are not working for free.
But they are almost certainly working for well under what they could be on a "regular" project -- at least, most certainly, KB, Rob Thomas, and Enrico Colantoni are. And if they bring Amanda Seyfried back, she definitely will be.

And anyway, the point isn't about the actors or the crew. It's about Warner Bros. They own Veronica Mars. They're the ones that need to make money on it, and enough money to make this sort of project worth their bother.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:17 PM   #154
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Warner Brothers has already agreed to foot the bill for this. I am sure they would LOVE to be able to make movies and only have to pay for marketing and distribution. These are not poor companies. They are already among the most profitable companies that exist. They just found a way to become even more profitable. Luckily, this will benefit fans.
That still doesn't mean that one movie ticket sold is profit which was what you originally said. They won't have to pay as much in development, but there will still be a cost that needs to be recouped.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:25 PM   #155
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Update 3 from Rob Thomas:
Heh, people are already buying up the NY Premiere one... including one person who switched off the LA Premiere to the NY Premiere.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:29 PM   #156
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Ok, things are picking up again now that they added a few more rewards. Yeah, $3m by the end of today looks more possible.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:36 PM   #157
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:51 PM   #158
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The Austin premiere ticket is very tempting...
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:01 PM   #159
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All of the available Veronica Mars packages that include tickets to the premiere are gone already. Wow. Rob might be kicking himself that he priced those too low.
Why doesn't KS implement a bidding process for packages? That way, the ones that are highly prized can raise more bucks?
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:06 PM   #160
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New York premiere is already oversubscribed. That's $100K right there in less than an hour.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:08 PM   #161
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The Austin premiere ticket is very tempting...
I'm eyeballing that, too.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:11 PM   #162
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Up to $2.9M
And a little over half an hour later ... $3 mil.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:11 PM   #163
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:12 PM   #164
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Just hit $3M at 4:18 PDT.

ETA: Weird - I've been hitting refresh pretty regularly over the past 5 minutes, and it didn't click over to $3M until 5 minutes after it did for you guys.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:14 PM   #165
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Rob T. just tweeted that the Today show filmed him as the campaign rolled over $3M. May have to record Today in the morning.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:15 PM   #166
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According to Wikipedia, if funding closed today, that would make it the 6th most funded project in Kickstarter history.

If it topped out at $4m as has been suggested, it would be the #3 project. It would have to make more than $8.5m to become #2, and more than $10.2m to become #1.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:18 PM   #167
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According to Wikipedia, if funding closed today, that would make it the 6th most funded project in Kickstarter history.

If it topped out at $4m as has been suggested, it would be the #3 project. It would have to make more than $8.5m to become #2, and more than $10.2m to become #1.
And we're still only 36 hours in to the campaign.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:19 PM   #168
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Just hit $3M at 4:18 PDT.

ETA: Weird - I've been hitting refresh pretty regularly over the past 5 minutes, and it didn't click over to $3M until 5 minutes after it did for you guys.
TCF is not exactly atomic clock standard. Nice people, don't get me wrong.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:20 PM   #169
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Arrested Development wishes they'd thought of this. . Think of the prizes they could have offered!
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:20 PM   #170
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Rob T. just tweeted that the Today show filmed him as the campaign rolled over $3M. May have to record Today in the morning.
Someone else just tweeted at him (which was RTd with a "Thank Gawd!" by KB): "$3M baby... yes! Logan's safe!"


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Old 03-14-2013, 06:21 PM   #171
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TCF is not exactly atomic clock standard. Nice people, don't get me wrong.
You're right - I hadn't noticed that my post was timed at 4:12, when I had noted it was 4:18...
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:25 PM   #172
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Arrested Development wishes they'd thought of this. . Think of the prizes they could have offered!
You're not the only one to have thought of that:
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Way back in 2006, when Arrested Development was canceled for the second time, we thought Kickstarter could save it. At the time Kickstarter didn't exist — we were trying to get it off the ground, and it would be three years before we would — but as fans of the show we thought Kickstarter could help. So what if a TV network wanted to kill the show? Fans could band together and fund it themselves.

So we tried to make it happen. Perry got an introduction to David Cross (Tobias Fünke on the show) through a friend and told him about Kickstarter: the fans fund the show directly and Arrested Development keeps going. David liked the idea (enough that through this he became Kickstarter’s first investor), but he told Perry that Arrested Development couldn’t happen that way. There were too many hurdles and the entertainment industry was just too complex for it to work.

At the time David was right. But seven years later things are changing. Arrested Development is back thanks to Netflix. And yesterday saw the relaunch of Veronica Mars in stunning fashion.
http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/a-big-day-for-fans
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:46 PM   #173
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I'm eyeballing that, too.
I decided against it. I like the show, but I don't $750 like it.
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:07 PM   #174
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Not sure what the hook will be then. Short blonde 20 something detective? What was cool about the show was she was a HS/College sleuth. I assume this will be a made for TV movie, so what the heck, it's worth a shot.
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I read elsewhere that the plan is a limited theatrical release, followed by release to VOD outlets. I don't think that anyone is considering a "made for TV" scenario.
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And a little over half an hour later ... $3 mil.
Yay!!

I knew it!!!
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:38 PM   #176
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So this is nice. I sent in a suggestion via the campaign page, and Rob Thomas just replied to me personally. Very cool.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:54 PM   #177
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:12 PM   #178
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Joss responds to the VM Kickstarter success:

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That's what everybody wants to know about. Uh, yeah. My fourth feeling when I read about [the Veronica Mars Kickstarter campaign] was a kind of dread. Because I realized the only thing that would be on everybody's mind right now. I've said repeatedly that I would love to make another movie with these guys, and that remains the case. It also remains the case that I'm booked up by Marvel for the next three years, and that I haven't even been able to get Dr. Horrible 2 off the ground because of that. So I don't even entertain the notion of entertaining the notion of doing this, and won't. Couple years from now, when Nathan [Fillion]'s no longer [on] Castle and I'm no longer the Tom Hagen of the Marvel Universe and making a giant movie, we might look and see where the market is then. But right now, it's a complete non-Kickstarter for me.
He also talks about how excited he was and what a big fan of the show he was (you may recall that he actually had a cameo a convenience store clerk in, I think, S2), but that's the money quote re Kickstarter/Firefly.
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:14 PM   #179
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What was your suggestion?
To cast me as Veronica's love interest, of course!

But really, I just made a comment, not a suggestion. I encouraged them to do as Rob suggested in his proposal and work to expand digital distribution beyond UltraViolet. Who knows where UV will be in a year, but it will probably still suck compared to the other established platforms, with far less reach. I'd bet that digital sales will be essential to this project being a success, and I doubt they'll get them through UV. And as a fan of the show (and good platforms) I want the movie to be successful.

Rob's reply was short but affirmed they are working on it, with a number of tricky issues they need to resolve to get there.
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I decided against it. I like the show, but I don't $750 like it.
I was actually leaning towards it, but I just noticed they're all gone. Oh well.
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