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Old 03-03-2013, 07:48 PM   #1
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Zero Hour Canceled!

http://www.13wham.com/entertainment/...z9OouwWfQ.cspx

They got me again. I figured this was pretty safe. LOST-ish, Anthony Edwards, you'd think after Top Gun, and ER, he'd be safe.

I was going to watch Red Widow, but I'm going to Tivo it and not even think of watching it until its renewed. I think if they keep this up, networks will be forced to do it Netflix-style and release an entire season. This is happening way too often


On the plus side The Americans was renewed.
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:25 PM   #2
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you thought it was safe? had you watched it?
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:26 PM   #3
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The second episode was much less cheesy than the first one. Although still way too much of the weird touchy feely hipsters and their awkward dialogue.
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:49 PM   #4
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you thought it was safe? had you watched it?
Precisely!

I am not surprised at all. What surprises me are the decent ratings for "The Following", although it's got a great cast and major promotion by FOX.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:17 PM   #5
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Figures. It wasn't a great show, but I wanted to see where they were going with Einstein and the Nazi plot.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:36 PM   #6
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That was fast. It looked kinda interesting in the previews, but I guess I'm glad I never bothered watched an ep.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:43 PM   #7
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I was interested in seeing where they were headed with the whole nazi/church conspiracy plot idea. I think it was poorly marketed. I set up a season pass, because I was curious, but before the first episode I had no idea what this show was going to be about. Perhaps the producers were hope Anthony Edwards would be a big enough attraction to draw an audience.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:51 PM   #8
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I was so-so on it but then I watched the Einstein episode and started getting really interested in the plot. Now I want to know all the answers to all the questions dammnit.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:18 AM   #9
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I think the producers decided they would never come up with a reasonable solution to the plot.

I mean, let's face it "bigger than God", "the end of the universe"??? How the hell were they going to come up with THAT scenario.

It was just too ambitious. And poorly written/developed.

MHO.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:25 AM   #10
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Oh - and the greatest scientific minds at the world's premiere educational institution were incapable of figuring out Einstein last chalkboard entry.

Luckily there was a low level FBI agent there to decipher it.
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:59 AM   #11
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It's a conspiracy! Pope Benedict made a deal with the Rosecrucians that he'd resign in order to keep Church secrets from being exposed by Zero Hour!

The show was ridiculously silly but I expected it to last more than three episodes. Especially with the way it was hyped.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:46 AM   #12
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After watching the pilot, I sandbagged the other two episodes and waited to get a sense of whether it would survive. Guess I can delete them.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:54 AM   #13
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Poor writing and it also had the BSG no plan feel to it. Good cast.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:40 AM   #14
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I think the producers decided they would never come up with a reasonable solution to the plot.

I mean, let's face it "bigger than God", "the end of the universe"??? How the hell were they going to come up with THAT scenario.

It was just too ambitious. And poorly written/developed.

MHO.
According to Edwards, they had the end before they started and wrote the 13 episode arc to get to that exact point.

I'm hoping they'll make the entire arc available someplace. I'd like to see where it was going.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:44 AM   #15
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I'm sure whatever they've shot will be aired at some point. They have nothing to lose by showing it when nobody's watching (e.g., summer).

The question is, have they shot it all yet?
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:52 AM   #16
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They have nothing to lose by showing it when nobody's watching
That was apparently their strategy from the outset. ;-)

Kidding aside, I was interested enough by the pilot that I'm sad to hear that the network didn't give this more of a shot. It seems like networks are so quick with the axe these days, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy - nobody tunes in until they hear that everyone has tuned in and that its likely to continue. Since nobody tunes in, it becomes unlikely to continue. A feedback loop develops.

I don't know if I'll bother watching 2 and 3 (probably not, unless a good number of other episodes were completed and do become available), but I'd be interested to at least read about how it would have played itself out.

I recall finding a site a while ago that collected "how it would have ended" descriptions for cancelled shows based on post-cancellation interviews with their writers, show-runners, and producers. It was discussed here, several years ago, I think. Anyone recall the name of the site, or know of anything similar?

ETA: I found what I was thinking about - a website called CliqueClack - the blogger did a post-cancellation interview with the writers of Reaper. He had done something similar with regard to Defying Gravity.

http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2010/02/01...-the-creators/
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:55 AM   #17
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This is the type of show that is right in my wheelhouse. But given the time slot and the poor reviews it got, I knew it wasn't going to last long. I decided not to watch and wait and see if the whole show ever became available.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:59 AM   #18
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Good thing I waited, now I can delete them. I did not have a good feeling about this show, even though I did not actually watch it.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:46 AM   #19
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I was going to watch Red Widow, but I'm going to Tivo it and not even think of watching it until its renewed.
Exactly what I'm doing. I was actually going to watch this last night (2 hours?), but decided I will wait and see the buzz, plus the ratings. Why waste time on a DOA show?

It's a toxic loop. They can't get the eyeballs to keep shows on the air, and we won't watch until we know the networks are committed to showing them. I'm not sure the Netflix model is the way to go, but at least commit to showing a minimum number of eps--9 or 11 or whatever the front end is.

I also read somewhere, just within the last week, that Zero Hour was written as a mini-series. I never saw this before now. If true, it should have been heavily promoted as such, and then they should commit to show the entire run. Again, unless a show is high on the buzz-o-meter, I will stack 'em until I know it's a winner. Maybe not so much for Fall pilots, but definitely for mid-season replacements.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:11 PM   #20
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This is the type of show that is right in my wheelhouse. But given the time slot and the poor reviews it got, I knew it wasn't going to last long. I decided not to watch and wait and see if the whole show ever became available.
Yep, me too. I actually recorded the first ep, but never watched. The timeslot was REALLY bad for me as I watch Community and Big Bang. Throw in a hockey game or two and it was next to impossible to commit to the show.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:16 PM   #21
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I was excited for it and watched the premiere, but it just fell flat immediately. It didn't die to any single huge flaw, the problem was that every aspect of it was mediocre. The casting, the acting, the writing, none of it had that spark that grabbed my attention. It gave me the immediate feeling of a show that was destined to be soon canceled. I didn't even bother to Tivo the second or third episode.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:23 PM   #22
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Yep, me too. I actually recorded the first ep, but never watched. The timeslot was REALLY bad for me as I watch Community and Big Bang. Throw in a hockey game or two and it was next to impossible to commit to the show.
I don't mean the time slot was crowded for me personally. I meant that the time slot is horrible for ABC. They've been trying to launch shows there for several years with no success. With BBT and Idol in that slot taking all the viewers, it's going to be nearly impossible for another show to succeed there. I knew Zero Hour would suffer because of that and figured it wouldn't last long.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:37 PM   #23
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It seems like networks are so quick with the axe these days, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy - nobody tunes in until they hear that everyone has tuned in and that its likely to continue. Since nobody tunes in, it becomes unlikely to continue. A feedback loop develops.
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It's a toxic loop. They can't get the eyeballs to keep shows on the air, and we won't watch until we know the networks are committed to showing them.
So wait - is it a feedback loop, or a toxic loop?

I like to keep my loops straight.
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A toxic feedback loop.
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:21 PM   #25
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Outside of The Following, I don't think there is a new series that has launched this year (2013) that has received ratings greater than a 2.0. Both ABC and NBC have debuted shows to record low ratings. I would not want to be a network TV exec right now.
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:37 PM   #26
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I bet this show would still be on if it had vampires in it.
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I don't mean the time slot was crowded for me personally. I meant that the time slot is horrible for ABC. They've been trying to launch shows there for several years with no success. With BBT and Idol in that slot taking all the viewers, it's going to be nearly impossible for another show to succeed there. I knew Zero Hour would suffer because of that and figured it wouldn't last long.
I said the same thing about The Last Resort early on. If they moved it, it might have succeeded. Then of course the show went off the rails and it might have failed anyway.
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:41 PM   #28
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I guess I can delete episode 3 off my recorder. I enjoyed the first two episodes for what they were.
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I also read somewhere, just within the last week, that Zero Hour was written as a mini-series.
The plot and all questions were supposed to be tied up at the end of the first season. They would start a new story with season 2.
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I bet this show would still be on if it had vampires in it.
Maybe it does.

The lesson: Reveal your vampires in the pilot.
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