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Old 02-26-2013, 07:56 AM   #1
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TIVO Series 3 DVR( 652160 )

Hi I am wondering about this model, I am looking to cut the cable and set it up with an OTA antenna, but the search feature isn't getting me anywhere....any opinions? I think the series is my best option b/c of the antenna,(is that right?) how does this model hold up with real users? looking for any sort of input here.....
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:01 AM   #2
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This model (TiVo HD or Series 3 HD) is an excellent Antenna-only choice. I assume you know you will still need a TiVo subscription and an internet connection. You will get guide data for the OTA channels after running guided setup. The model 648 is also good for this. I use antenna and cable but more than half what I record is from the antenna-tuned stations.

You can use antennaweb.org and/or tvfool.com to see what stations you can receive and what kind of antenna to get. If you search these forums for threads with "antenna" in the title, you should get some useful discussion about antenna choices.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:32 AM   #3
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I agree any Series 3 TiVo is an excellent Over The Air (OTA) DVR. I have an original Series 3 and a TiVo HD both used for OTA only.

I would only buy one that has lifetime service on it. Series 3 DVRs can be fairly old, I believe the first original Series 3 HD units came out in the fall of 06 and the first TiVo HD units came out in the spring of 07. The 2 items that tend to fail are the hard drives and the power supplies both are fairly easy to replace but not cheap.

I also use a TiVo Premiere for OTA - it does not deal with reception issues as well as the Series 3 units but is a superior unit over all. So depending on where you live I would also be looking at the 2 tuner Premiere units.

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Old 02-26-2013, 10:50 AM   #4
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I have been using the TCD652160 for years with great results but today, I would only buy one if it was cheap and included lifetime service. I sure wouldn't pay over $300 for that model today and would instead buy a new Premiere with lifetime subscription for $200 more now.
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........Series 3 DVRs can be fairly old, I believe the first original Series 3 HD units came out in the fall of 06 and the first TiVo HD units came out in the spring of 07. The 2 items that tend to fail are the hard drives and the power supplies both are fairly easy to replace but not cheap.
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The PS cost $100 to replace (weaknees.com) but the most common failure is due to "capacitor plague" (indicated by bulging metal can capacitors) and if you're not afraid to solder you can replace the bad caps for about $10 in parts. Several have done so and reported on this forum. Another option is to buy a non-lifetime used tivo of the same model (around $50) and scavenge the power supply -- although it is also susceptible to "capacitor plague".

A 2 TB replacement hard drive can be had for about $100 if you're willing to DIY -- lots of help on these forums. Or you can buy a "plug-in" 2 TB drive for less than $200. (Google "ebay dvr_dude" -- seller has good rep on this forum.).

So..... whether these are "not cheap" is a personal assessment. My plan is to keep my lifetime 652 going as long as possible.
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A 2 TB replacement hard drive can be had for about $100 if you're willing to DIY -- lots of help on these forums. Or you can buy a "plug-in" 2 TB drive for less than $200. (Google "ebay dvr_dude" -- seller has good rep on this forum.).
I pretty much agree and intend on doing anything reasonable to keep both my original Series 3 HD and Tivo HD running.

The reason I said the repairs are not cheap is because they could end up costing more than the DVR purchase if the buyer was unlucky and needed to replace both the drive and power supply in a fairly short period of time after purchasing the DVR. Of course I don't think that is likely to happen but with older used equipment the odds start going up.

If someone can find a friend with a TiVo who can get a deal on a Premiere with lifetime the cost of the Premiere over a used Series 3 with lifetime could be less than $200. So one has to consider that option if it is available to them.

In any event regardless if someone buys a new Premiere or used Series 3 I would recommend doing a 2TB hard drive upgrade as soon as possible.
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