TiVo Community
TiVo Community
TiVo Community
Go Back   TiVo Community > Main TiVo Forums > TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion
TiVo Community
Reply
Forum Jump
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-25-2012, 12:18 PM   #1
macjeepster
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 45
Love TiVo; hate the peanut

At least three or four times a week I grab the remote to fast-forward, but I rewind instead, because I'm holding the remote upside-down.
The back and the front of the peanut are the same except for the little TiVo button.

You could say I'm stupid, and you may be right; but it's still a design flaw. Stupid people are supposed to be able to watch TV, and fast-forwarding should be a quick, reflexive operation (Imagine if handguns were designed that way).

My first TiVo was a Sony Series 1, which had a great remote. Since then, I've ha a DirecTivo, 2 Series 2s, and now I have 2 Premieres, all with the stupid peanut remote.

I use my iPad for most of the scheduling (love the app); I only use the peanut for pausing and FF through commercials.

You should be able to tell you're holding a remote correctly without looking at it closely.

Here's a thread where people were complaining back in 2007…
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=360217

- mj
macjeepster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 02:03 PM   #2
smgeisler
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
Posts: 40
When I pick up my remote I can instantly tell if I'm holding it upside-down. The lower end with the batteries weighs a lot more than the top. If I pick it up and the "top" is pulling down due to gravity, then I'm holding it wrong. When the correct end is at the top, gravity is causing the heavy bottom to stay comfortably in my hand. The difference is so great I never even think about it. As I pick it up, my brain makes the top/bottom decision automatically.
__________________
Steven M. Geisler
smgeisler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 02:49 PM   #3
innocentfreak
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 8,558
I have never had difficulty telling which way the remote is without looking at it. As mentioned the Premiere line has the weight at the bottom. Also the bottom is flat at the top of the remote.
__________________
1 - TiVo Roamio Pro
2 - TiVo Premiere XL

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
innocentfreak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 03:16 PM   #4
Chris Gerhard
Registered User
 
Chris Gerhard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: AR
Posts: 5,049
I have been using the peanut remote for over 12 years, I have held it upside down but I don't recall doing it in the last decade. I also think watching TV should be easy but changing the design so it will be impossible to point in the wrong direction probably means a design that won't be very easy to use. Nothing needs to be done with this remote design, it is easy enough to use without looking in my opinion. Just looking around at the remotes I own, all of them could be pointed backwards but with a minimum of effort, none ever are.
__________________
Home Theater - OTA TiVoHD/1.16TB/NSZ-GS8 GTV
MBR - OTA TiVoHD/660GB/NSZ-GT1 GTV
Den - OTA TiVo Premiere/2TB/NSZ-GT1 GTV
Chris Gerhard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 03:38 PM   #5
TIVO_GUY_HERE
I miss the ocean
 
TIVO_GUY_HERE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Dallas Texas
Posts: 5,641
bottom is much heavier than the top. I've never had a problem. Also I feel for the tivo button on top. easy peesy.
TIVO_GUY_HERE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 04:07 PM   #6
HomeUser
Registered User
 
HomeUser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A2 Michigan
Posts: 2,318
The bottom end also has ridges.
__________________
VicW, Ex-Comcast customer ... And loving it!.
HomeUser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 05:04 PM   #7
ThAbtO
TiVoholic by the bay
 
ThAbtO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 4,908
I can tell if I am holding the remote right or wrong side up by feeling the buttons when I pick it up, the pause button is @ my thumb if its right side up. Also feels different if wrong side up.
__________________
Series 2 (PLS, sold)
TiVo HD 1TB (157 HD Hrs, PLS, "652")
Roamio! Oh, wait, Its Juliet!
OTA! OTA! OTA!

~~~~~

The TiVo Apocalypse begins on Sat 2013 Feb 16 00:00 GMT!
ThAbtO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 05:20 PM   #8
sneagle
Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: New York area
Posts: 2,106
The peanut shape and simplicity of the remote is a major plus for me.
__________________
Former DirecTivo user..left for lack of line of sight for HD
Using Tivo HD x 2 with FIOS using cablecards and
One FIOS DVR with the latest software
sneagle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 10:43 PM   #9
magnus
Tivo User
 
magnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,477
This is a first for me to hear this one.
magnus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 02:20 PM   #10
timr_42
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: st louis, MO
Posts: 1,465
I pick my up upside down, but always feel for the tivo button at the top. I never notice any problem doing it that way.
timr_42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 04:36 PM   #11
jrtroo
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,603
I've done the upside down thing when going too quickly. It really only happens for me with the slide, as it is more evenly balanced than a standard tivo remote. The ridges make it easy, as they are on all of the newer remotes, just not on the initial ones that came with THDs and S2s.

But, it is user error, not an error with the remote. Just like when I turn off the tv on accident.
__________________
TiVo Owner

Last edited by jrtroo : 12-31-2012 at 09:39 AM.
jrtroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 05:51 PM   #12
jsmeeker
Vegas Boy
 
jsmeeker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Dallas
Posts: 88,752
I always preferred the Sony remote to the TiVo remote. But when I got my Premiere, I got used to the peanut. Of course, the current peanut is better than the original. they made some improvements to it.
__________________
Jeff
Proud to use my TiVo improperly
President of the TiVoShanan Fan Club


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
jsmeeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 06:35 PM   #13
Bierboy
Seasoned gas passer
 
Bierboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Quad Sillies
Posts: 11,529
The TiVo peanut remote is, quite simply, a poorly designed remote (from a physical design standpoint). The biggest issue (to me) is the rounded bottom. You set it down; it rolls over. I MUCH prefer my Harmony One remote; the top has a flat bottom which stabilizes it when setting it down on the arm of a couch, a bed, or on anything that's not rigid.
Bierboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 06:47 PM   #14
steve614
what ru lookin at?
 
steve614's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 10,722
I've never had a problem with my peanut remote rolling over.
Maybe I take more care than others in setting it down, I don't know.
Also, I can't remember the last time it was backwards when I picked it up. I pick the remote up the same way I set it down.
Must have been because someone else used it and didn't set it back down the 'right' way.
__________________
The Man Prayer: I'm a man ...... I can change ...... If I have to ...... I guess.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

F*CK CANCER!
steve614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 07:14 PM   #15
macjeepster
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 45
I'm sorry, I should haver been clearer. I don't hold it upside down, but rather backwards, butt end in front, so when I push the FF button, I'm really pushing the rewind button. It only happens one every 20 times or so, just enough to be annoying.
Yes, the newer remotes have a few more clues; in the last decade or so, TiVo's made progress, but they can make more.
Count your blessings that you're smart; those of us in the stupid community need some help.

-mj
macjeepster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 08:29 PM   #16
scole250
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Goldsboro, NC
Posts: 679
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bierboy View Post
...The biggest issue (to me) is the rounded bottom. You set it down; it rolls over...
The overall functionality and button layout , but hate that you can't push a button on it while it sits on the counter or couch arm without rolling
__________________
3 Premieres w/2TB each
Media server
scole250 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 09:06 PM   #17
sneagle
Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: New York area
Posts: 2,106
It just goes to show...
"You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time."
__________________
Former DirecTivo user..left for lack of line of sight for HD
Using Tivo HD x 2 with FIOS using cablecards and
One FIOS DVR with the latest software
sneagle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 10:58 PM   #18
jrtroo
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,603
Quote:
Originally Posted by macjeepster View Post
I'm sorry, I should haver been clearer. I don't hold it upside down, but rather backwards, butt end in front, so when I push the FF button, I'm really pushing the rewind button. It only happens one every 20 times or so, just enough to be annoying.
I think we all understood.
__________________
TiVo Owner
jrtroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2012, 02:21 AM   #19
Worf
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 1,694
Hrm.

I've never had issues with my Glo remote that came with my S3 - I think the flat top helps. The rounded buttom is nice as it curls into my hand very nicely. I suppose if I put it on the armrest of a chair I have an issue (though I've seen other flat-bottom remotes have the exact same issue). So my remotes sit on the table.

Though, if you're having problems with the peanut remote, how do you handle other remotes? They're often just rectangular and symmetrical - they look the same either orientation. I'm guessing the only thing is that they're often so poorly designed that you have to look at them to use them, so if you pick them up from the front instead of the butt, you'll know...

One nice solution is to just get a universal remote like a Harmony - bonus points with your wife and everyone who can use your system without using a million remotes.
Worf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2012, 08:43 AM   #20
mr.unnatural
Registered User
 
mr.unnatural's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,674
I like the feel of the Tivo peanut remote, but I rarely used it. I needed to control multiple devices and the peanut always fell short in terms of functionality. I've always used a universal remote instead of the peanut for this reason.

Back in the day when I was a total Tivo fanatic it wasn't unusual for me to have 3 or 4 Tivos running in the same room. The peanut could never control that many devices from a single remote without constantly switching codes so I'd just program a learning remote with all 10 codesets (i.e., 0 thru 9). I'd drag out a peanut remote to set the code on the Tivo and then put it away until the next time.

The Tivo peanut is just like any other OEM remote supplied with a consumer A/V component. It's set up to control the device it came with along with a TV and maybe one other device. Beyond that, it's basically useless and requires at least one other remote to control the remaining devices in a home theater system. Most of my Tivo remotes never got taken out of the plastic wrapper. If you've only got a basic setup then it's perfectly fine.

FWIW, I don't ever recall trying to use mine backwards. As stated, it's pretty clear which end faces forward based on the feel of the remote.
mr.unnatural is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2012, 05:55 PM   #21
replaytv
elects "cold sleep"
 
replaytv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Denver ish Colorado
Posts: 4,028
I love the older peanut remote. Fits my hand very nicely. I don't like the Premiere remote. Can't get used to the enter button in the center. So they sit brand new, never used.
replaytv is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2012, 06:25 PM   #22
lrhorer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA
Posts: 6,885
Quote:
Originally Posted by replaytv View Post
I love the older peanut remote. Fits my hand very nicely. I don't like the Premiere remote. Can't get used to the enter button in the center. So they sit brand new, never used.
Which older one? The very best, IMO is the Glo-remote. It has far and away the best feel in the hand and the most easily used key layout I have ever used. It's much better than the original peanut, and significantly better than the Premiere remote or the one that came with the THD.

It's very accurate. The only button I ever really mistake is the <Info> key. That one is too easily confused with the <LiveTV> key.
lrhorer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2012, 09:24 PM   #23
scandia101
Just the facts ma'am
 
scandia101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: MN, greater TC metro area
Posts: 9,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeUser View Post
The bottom end also has ridges.
Depends on the model.
__________________
discipuli nostrum bardissimi sunt.
scandia101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 07:21 AM   #24
HerronScott
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Staunton, VA
Posts: 993
Quote:
Originally Posted by replaytv View Post
I love the older peanut remote. Fits my hand very nicely. I don't like the Premiere remote. Can't get used to the enter button in the center. So they sit brand new, never used.
We're the opposite and prefer the Select button in the center with our S3 Glo-remote as that's the way the Sony S1 remotes were configured and what we were used to. I picked up a used HD for my son and could not get used to the Select button being below the directional buttons.

Scott
HerronScott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:59 PM   #25
macjeepster
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 45
I hooked up my wife's new Premiere yesterday, and I must say the ridges on the underside of the new peanut are a real improvement. It's easy to quickly tell if you're holding it right.
__________________
----
-mj
macjeepster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 04:46 PM   #26
HomeUser
Registered User
 
HomeUser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A2 Michigan
Posts: 2,318
Quote:
Originally Posted by scandia101 View Post
Depends on the model.
Which model(s) do not have the ridges? All of mine do I have remotes for the Series 2, 3, 4, Glow and USB Keyboard remote.
__________________
VicW, Ex-Comcast customer ... And loving it!.
HomeUser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 05:01 PM   #27
SullyND
L: 28-31
 
SullyND's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicago Burbs
Posts: 7,684
I have at least one which is ridgeless - it's a red one I got with points from TiVo years ago.
__________________
Earl: A purpose is a great thing to have, it gives you a reason to wake up every morning.
Randy: So a purpose is like a box of powdered donut holes?
Earl: Exactly.
SullyND is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 06:38 PM   #28
scandia101
Just the facts ma'am
 
scandia101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: MN, greater TC metro area
Posts: 9,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeUser View Post
Which model(s) do not have the ridges? All of mine do I have remotes for the Series 2, 3, 4, Glow and USB Keyboard remote.
The only ridged Tivo remote I've ever had was the one that came with my Premiere. All other tivo remotes, and I've had at least a dozen (S1 and S2 with dvr 1-2 switch), are entirely smooth.
__________________
discipuli nostrum bardissimi sunt.
scandia101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 07:18 PM   #29
Bierboy
Seasoned gas passer
 
Bierboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Quad Sillies
Posts: 11,529
Quote:
Originally Posted by scole250 View Post
The overall functionality and button layout , but hate that you can't push a button on it while it sits on the counter or couch arm without rolling
I agree...
Bierboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 07:49 AM   #30
takeshi
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by macjeepster View Post
You should be able to tell you're holding a remote correctly without looking at it closely.
...and I am. Be careful using "you" where you should be using "I". If the remote doesn't meet your needs then find one that does.
takeshi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Forum Jump




Thread Tools


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Advertisements

TiVo Community
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Skins by: Relivo Media

(C) 2013 Magenium Solutions - All Rights Reserved. No information may be posted elsewhere without written permission.
TiVo® is a registered trademark of TiVo Inc. This site is not owned or operated by TiVo Inc.
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:56 AM.
OUR NETWORK: MyOpenRouter | TechLore | SansaCommunity | RoboCommunity | MediaSmart Home | Explore3DTV | Dijit Community | DVR Playground |