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Old 12-27-2012, 11:05 AM   #1
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Question MoCA - Should I? What will it cost?

I keep seeing all the talk of MoCA networking and TiVo boxes. I'm somewhat interested but not entirely clear on details. Should I or shouldn't I? And what will it cost if I do?

I have a recently purchased Premiere XL. It's located very near my living room TV set and incoming cable but no Ethernet is feasible. It's currently using a TiVo Wireless-N adapter that was free with the purchase package.

I have a TiVo HD for the wife's use in the bedroom. Obviously, streaming to/from it isn't going to happen, but it would be nice if we could transfer programs faster than is currently possible with its TiVo Wireless-G adapter. More than anything else, that would help with our granddaughter who often wants to watch "her shows" without having to go to only one TiVo.

Upstairs is another cable entry into the house which connects to our cable modem. I currently have an Apple Time Capsule as my router and may upgrade to a newer model sometime, but I'm in no rush. And there's no interest in TV up there.

So, given that I would have to purchase at least two, maybe three MoCA adapters, possibly get some additional bits of coax here and there, maybe even short Ethernet cables here and there, what benefits exactly would I get from doing this?

And assuming that the benefits are worth the cost and effort, where can I get easy to understand specifics on what I'd need at each spot?

Thanks for any advice.

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Old 12-27-2012, 01:08 PM   #2
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You would need three moca adapters one for the router, one for each tivo. in addition you would probably need 3 coax splitters - one at each tivo and one at the cable modem. and possibly some additional coax.

The benefit is increased speed and stability. Currently tivo.com is selling the moca adapters for $50 each plus shipping.


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Old 12-27-2012, 01:23 PM   #3
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The benefit is simply that you can use the coax in your house for most of the networking, rather than running long ethernet or wireless.

The downside is you'll need a moca adapter at the router/modem (unless you have Fios), as well as one at each 2-tuner Tivo. The other downside is that it can be expensive. The "cheapest" option is to grab them from tivo.com for $50 each.

If you buy the adapters from Tivo.com, you may not need any splitters (the moca adapter on tivo's site appears to have coax in and out, so no splitting would be necessary). The adapters might include some short ethernet cables and/or coax, I'm not sure.

The Tivo site has instructions on what to do:

At the modem/router:

At each of the Tivos you want to use moca:

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Old 12-27-2012, 01:39 PM   #4
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It seems expensive.

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Old 12-27-2012, 01:47 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by spock View Post
It seems expensive.

Why would I want to install MoCA?
When you stream shows between two or more TiVo Premiere series DVRs (Multi-Room Streaming), you need a fast network connection. Otherwise, your shows might pause or skip while streaming, or they might not stream at all.

The same is true if you want to stream or transfer shows to your mobile devices using the TiVo® Stream. The Stream lets you stream shows recorded on your Premiere series DVR to your mobile devices when you’re at home, or transfer shows to your devices to take with you.

The only way to ensure a fast enough network connection for streaming is to use a wired Ethernet or MoCA connection. Many people don’t have a wired Ethernet connection available to the DVR, so MoCA is a great alternative.

Note: Wi-Fi and Powerline (also called HomePlug® ) networking are not sufficient for streaming shows reliably.

MoCA, on the other hand, provides 170 Mbit/s Net TCP throughput!

If you have other questions, feel free to post back!


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Old 12-27-2012, 07:28 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by spock View Post
It seems expensive.
It's cheaper and easier than tearing holes in your walls to run ethernet cables.

Wireless is not an option if you want things to actually work all the time. And wireless isn't cheap either.

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Old 12-28-2012, 08:17 AM   #7
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The actiontec adaptors include the short coax cables, power supplies etc. Everything needed at each location. You would need 3 adaptors for your install. They are fast, reliable and very easy setup.

Amazon often puts the 2 pack on sale for about 95 shipped.

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