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Old 10-23-2012, 11:05 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Sons of Anarchy - "Toad's Wild Ride" - 10/23/12

Oh brother....you gotta be ******* me...

More BS from Clay...(why, why, WHY!, couldn't Unser pop him too!)
Gemma's BS...
now Abel get's effed up(or dead) in the process?

Oh yeah, and at least two more trashed bikes...
What is this, Jax's bike of the week now?

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Old 10-23-2012, 11:33 PM   #2
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Hmm...you had to bring in the kids! Time for Gemma 1.0 to go.

So is Pope playing a long game or did the Nomads reach out to a some disaffected Niners to mess things up for everyone on each side. Guess the better question is who is Pope's rival? Wonder if its that mean dude who is Pope's right hand.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:16 AM   #3
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When they showed the van driving off after the attempted hit on Jax, then panned up from Gemma's hand on the radio, for just a beat I thought Gemma was the one who got away. Why was she weaving all over the road? Was that supposed to be from smoking with Unser hours earlier? Her babysitting privileges are going to take a serious hit.

I'm definitely in the camp that Clay has to go. With a couple runs for the Irish there should be enough trust that Jax is running things OK and Clay would no longer be needed there. Of course the more unlikeable he is and annoying to the audience the more likely he is to stay.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:44 AM   #4
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I don't get the ending. Sounds like a desperate way to finally get rid of her.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:37 AM   #5
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I don't get the ending. Sounds like a desperate way to finally get rid of her.
Unless Kurt Sutter and Katie Sagel have divorced, I doubt that's what's happening here.

It's Gemma trying desperately to show that she's a good grandmother, but only showing that she's Gemma. In a pretty unforgivable way.

Lot of people doing things in a pretty unforgivable way lately. Almost like they're trying to create drama on the show!
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:10 AM   #6
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Unless Kurt Sutter and Katie Sagel have divorced, I doubt that's what's happening here.
I'm talking the character not the woman. Who knows maybe Sagal wants to move on.

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Old 10-24-2012, 11:06 AM   #7
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I'm ok with Gemma dying off the show. If she's not dead, I bet she never gets to babysit the kids again!

I was confusing by the attack on Jax at the end. We'll see how that pans out, but based on what we've seen so far, I doubt it's Pope, it's someone else. Pope has something to gain with the alliance with Jax right now, I don't get why he's screw that up. If nothing else Pope is a business man and the alliance with Jax makes him money. So, my opinion is that someone else prompted that attack.
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I'm ok with Gemma dying off the show. If she's not dead, I bet she never gets to babysit the kids again!

I was confusing by the attack on Jax at the end. We'll see how that pans out, but based on what we've seen so far, I doubt it's Pope, it's someone else. Pope has something to gain with the alliance with Jax right now, I don't get why he's screw that up. If nothing else Pope is a business man and the alliance with Jax makes him money. So, my opinion is that someone else prompted that attack.
There'll be more drama if she lives and the kid does not. Also, just because you are black doesn't mean you are a Niner. I guess that is the impression the writers wanted us to have.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:06 PM   #9
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It's Clay. It has to be Clay. It's always Clay. Clay. Clay. Clay. Clay. Clay. And he'll get away with it. Again. And my head will explode. Again.

Juice. Stop being a coward and talk to Jax.

Where was Gemma going, anyway? I could see Gemma driving erratically if she were drunk but she wasn't or at least they didn't show her getting f'd up. We have to wait a week but they've got some splainin' to do on that one.

Every time the scene switched towards the end, I expected the remaining Nomad to show up and start shooting people. Gemma with the kids. Tara and Tig at the cabin. Jax and Chibs.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:05 PM   #11
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Where was Gemma going, anyway? I could see Gemma driving erratically if she were drunk but she wasn't or at least they didn't show her getting f'd up. We have to wait a week but they've got some splainin' to do on that one.
She and Unser were passing a joint back and forth for, oh, half the show...
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:18 PM   #12
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She and Unser were passing a joint back and forth for, oh, half the show...
Yep, Unser for his colon cancer and Gemma for her brain cancer.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:40 PM   #13
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She and Unser were passing a joint back and forth for, oh, half the show...
Which alone doesn't significantly impair one's ability to safely operate a motor vehicle. Certainly not to the extent depicted...

Throw in some fatigue and maybe, but we all saw she got at least some sleep the previous night.

Both this scenario and the van attack on Jax and Bobby were just plain sloppy, lazy, piss poor, writing.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:50 PM   #14
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Which alone doesn't significantly impair one's ability to safely operate a motor vehicle. Certainly not to the extent depicted...

Throw in some fatigue and maybe, but we all saw she got at least some sleep the previous night.

Both this scenario and the van attack on Jax and Bobby were just plain sloppy, lazy, piss poor, writing.

I wouldn't want someone who had been smoking a joint all day to drive my toddler and baby anywhere. Just sayin'....
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Old 10-25-2012, 05:43 AM   #15
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Which alone doesn't significantly impair one's ability to safely operate a motor vehicle. Certainly not to the extent depicted...

Throw in some fatigue and maybe, but we all saw she got at least some sleep the previous night.

Both this scenario and the van attack on Jax and Bobby were just plain sloppy, lazy, piss poor, writing.
Every time I've smoked (pot) I've gotten tired.


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Old 10-25-2012, 07:35 AM   #16
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Wait a minute... Gemma and Unser were smoking a joint when the police were crime sceneing his trailer ten yards away? What knuckleheads do that? I thought it was a cigarette.

Seemed like it was hours between the time Gemma and Unser smoked and when she ended up in a roadside ditch. Daylight, then pitch black darkness. I'm not a pot smoker. The impairment lasts that long?
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Wait a minute... Gemma and Unser were smoking a joint when the police were crime sceneing his trailer ten yards away? What knuckleheads do that? I thought it was a cigarette.

Seemed like it was hours between the time Gemma and Unser smoked and when she ended up in a roadside ditch. Daylight, then pitch black darkness. I'm not a pot smoker. The impairment lasts that long?
I'm not one either though I have. They don't usually last that long. She was hungover too from hooking up with Joel McHale though if I have my timeline right. Or was that a couple days later?
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Wait a minute... Gemma and Unser were smoking a joint when the police were crime sceneing his trailer ten yards away? What knuckleheads do that? I thought it was a cigarette.

Seemed like it was hours between the time Gemma and Unser smoked and when she ended up in a roadside ditch. Daylight, then pitch black darkness. I'm not a pot smoker. The impairment lasts that long?
Unser wouldn't worry about smoking in front of the police since he has cancer and is allowed to do it for medicinal purposes. And the show takes place in California where tons of people do it for medicinal purposes so I didn't see that scene as a stretch at all.
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Wait a minute... Gemma and Unser were smoking a joint when the police were crime sceneing his trailer ten yards away? What knuckleheads do that? I thought it was a cigarette.
It's been mentioned before that Unser uses it medically due to his cancer. With her various ailments it's not a stretch to think that Gemma has a card as well.

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I agree .... I think Gemma has brain cancer... even though the writers haven't seen fit to actually write it into the show.
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One of them actually referenced Wayne's cancer and Gemma's brain cancer in the scene where they were sharing the joint. No secrets or guessing there.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:23 PM   #22
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Gemma has brain cancer? What season did that happen? Please don't say this one. So maybe that's why she drove off the road.
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Its just an euphemism for the way she's been acting lately, thus the desire/need for MJ.
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"Brain cancer" was a joking way to explain A) Gemma's poor decision-making, and B) her pot use. She doesn't have brain cancer; she's just an idiot pot-head.

She has had health issues (heart-related), but I don't think they're the type that would lead to a medical marijuana prescription.
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LOL, yeah Gemma has a cancer on her psyche. Not a physical brain tumor. (that we've been specifically informed of yet anyway)
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It'd be really coincidental to this thread if Gemma, during the hospital stay from the accident, was diagnosed with a brain tumor.
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So Nero beats the crap out of the con man, anyone here thinks that's the end of that storyline or he's going to comeback and cause problems?
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So Nero beats the crap out of the con man, anyone here thinks that's the end of that storyline or he's going to comeback and cause problems?
As the Sons chased and beat him a little the first time, and another group chased him and beat him a bunch the second time, he could still come back.

He'd have to be pretty stupid to do so. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would move to another town a couple counties away..
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So Nero beats the crap out of the con man, anyone here thinks that's the end of that storyline or he's going to comeback and cause problems?
I'm not entirely convinced Nero is a friend of the Sons yet.
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I'm not entirely convinced Nero is a friend of the Sons yet.
Ahh...good point.
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