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10-29-2012, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bradleys
Looks like TiVo made some pretty significant database changes on the back end - this is just a little artifact from those changes.
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I think that conclusion exceeds the evidence. All I'm seeing is that some of the group data got deleted.
I don't have any push-created folders on my TiVo right now, but my oldest series (regular recordings, but possibly transferred from another TiVo; I don't remember) got ungrouped. Other groups stayed.
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10-30-2012, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wmcbrine
I think that conclusion exceeds the evidence. All I'm seeing is that some of the group data got deleted.
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Any time there is a "preparing update" phase in a software update, there is some kind of database change. Whether it's "significant" or not is up to debate.
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10-30-2012, 01:19 AM
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#153
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all around great update... but the netflix app is still terrible..
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10-30-2012, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bklynflatbush
all around great update... but the netflix app is still terrible..
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Me thinks we'll be waiting a while before Netflix gets any changes.
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10-30-2012, 06:58 AM
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just received my update...restarting now! 
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10-30-2012, 07:12 AM
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restarting now!!!!
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10-30-2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wmcbrine
I think that conclusion exceeds the evidence. All I'm seeing is that some of the group data got deleted.
I don't have any push-created folders on my TiVo right now, but my oldest series (regular recordings, but possibly transferred from another TiVo; I don't remember) got ungrouped. Other groups stayed.
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Same here. All pytivo pushes are no longer in groups. I tried to create a new group without success using the same method that worked before the update.
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10-30-2012, 08:00 AM
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If I push exact same video twice it doesn't group without seriesId set in metadata file, but it does group when seriesId is set in metadata file, which is consistent with previous behavior.
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10-30-2012, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bklynflatbush
all around great update... but the netflix app is still terrible..
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I watched three episodes of Nikita on Netflix from an Elite last night. It did great. The only issue it had was when it blanks out for a second or two when it switches to 1080P24. But once it does it continues to stream for the entire episode. I definitely prefer to use my TiVos for Netflix over my dozen other Netflix devices because of the Native resolution output.
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10-30-2012, 08:30 AM
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I love what it can do now, but now I find that if I record a single show from the guide, the screen blanks out for just a split second and then refreshes to show a check mark next to the show. I remember it was instantaneous before the update.
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10-30-2012, 08:39 AM
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My overnight restart went fine and I had the update this morning. Good stuff so far! I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new ToDo List!
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10-30-2012, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wmcbrine
I think that conclusion exceeds the evidence. All I'm seeing is that some of the group data got deleted.
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Based on this quote from Margret:
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Originally Posted by TiVoMargret
The "KidZone" feature of SD Menus has been removed. It had very low usage (since it only worked in SD Menus) and it was going to be a lot of work to make it compatible with the database technology change we made in this release.
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I think it's a valid conclusion.
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10-30-2012, 09:22 AM
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Well my tivo now has a list of over 200 non grouped recordings all missing most of the program information.
Currenly trying to delete a few and re-push to see if new pushes can be grouped. Even if that works, this is going to be a LONG rework to fix Tivo's very obvious bug.
Why would they remove so much information for all these recordings for the update? Database changes fine, but you have to update ALL the data not just parts of it and leave hundreds of useless recordings in a MySHows list.
MAJOR FAIL tivo.
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10-30-2012, 11:38 AM
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As I was greeted by the THX splash screen, this morning; I assume my XL4 received the .2 update today(?)
I have not experienced any of the aforementioned problems/bugs(?) as of now.
Having said that, this XL4 TiVo is used at its most basic function. Record and transfer non copy protected material to the S3 on the network. (don't ask... simply put logistics.)
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10-30-2012, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerwin51580
I love what it can do now, but now I find that if I record a single show from the guide, the screen blanks out for just a split second and then refreshes to show a check mark next to the show. I remember it was instantaneous before the update.
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In the previous version, initiating a recording would initiate the old "Please Wait" popup while it was setting the recording.
So I think they've improved this, but I'd imagine making it completely fluid is something they'll do in a future update.
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10-31-2012, 10:46 AM
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I like the new screens very much, but I noticed something that I don't believe has been mentioned.
When I look down the todo list starting on November4 (the day the clocks change) all shows are listed 1 hour later then they will really be on. The times are correct when I select the entry and display the information. I didn't notice it at first, but finally realized that it was showing the Daily Show recording at 12:00AM and Colbert at 12:30AM and both were listed on the next day because of this.
Has anyone else noticed this? I hope that when the clocks do change that all these shows will be recorded correctly.
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10-31-2012, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shiffrin
I like the new screens very much, but I noticed something that I don't believe has been mentioned.
When I look down the todo list starting on November4 (the day the clocks change) all shows are listed 1 hour later then they will really be on. The times are correct when I select the entry and display the information. I didn't notice it at first, but finally realized that it was showing the Daily Show recording at 12:00AM and Colbert at 12:30AM and both were listed on the next day because of this.
Has anyone else noticed this? I hope that when the clocks do change that all these shows will be recorded correctly.
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I has been discussed in another thread, I have the same issue in the EST time zone , hopefully it will get fixed.
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10-31-2012, 11:13 AM
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After some more searching I did find where it has been mentioned. I haven't found anywhere where it has been discussed or whether it will be a problem come November 4. I did send a note to TivoMarget in case she didn't see the problem mentioned in 1 or 2 posts mixed in with 5 pages of discussion of the grouping issues.
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10-31-2012, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by shiffrin
I haven't found anywhere where it has been discussed or whether it will be a problem come November 4.
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Search the forums. TiVos have been recording in GMT+0 since the beginning of time so daylight savings time changes will not affect season pass recordings.
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10-31-2012, 12:50 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty clearly just a problem with the way the To Do List is generated, since the correct times are on the individual entries.
The To Do List just doesn't take the time change this Sunday into account. Worst-case scenario, it should fix itself on Sunday, with probably a patch in the next minor update so it doesn't happen again in the Spring.
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10-31-2012, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by morac
My Premiere connected at 4:30 PM EDT and downloaded the update. I figured it was better to do the install now then at 2 AM when the hurricane winds are forecast to be a lot stronger, so I did the install (not really having a choice). I'm now at the "preparing the update" screen. The Premiere is connected to a UPS so I have some leeway if the power goes out, but the person who decided it was a good idea to release the update today should be demoted, especially considering it takes so long to install.
I'm guessing the box can recover if the power is cut during the preparing stage, but still...
Edit: update finished. Right about 45 minutes as has been reported
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I cut power twice during the preparing stage. All worked fine.
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10-31-2012, 05:32 PM
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The mini guide no longer comes up when playing back recorded shows by pressing Select 
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10-31-2012, 05:50 PM
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The mini guide no longer comes up when playing back recorded shows by pressing Select |
That's a GOOD thing IMO. It means you can enter SPS backdoor codes normally without an extra select messing things up. Note that during Live TV the Mini Guide still works and that's where it makes a lot more sense to have it anyway. You can still bring up the full guide in playback mode anyway.
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10-31-2012, 06:13 PM
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I use the mini guide ALL THE TIME while watching recordings to set other stuff.
The grey color on Season Passes with no upcoming recordings is barely visible too. It's indistinguishable from the others.
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10-31-2012, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cwoody222
The grey color on Season Passes with no upcoming recordings is barely visible too. It's indistinguishable from the others.
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The contrast is not great but I can certainly tell the difference on both my TVs. That is probably more a function of TV calibration/display settings.
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10-31-2012, 06:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moyekj
That's a GOOD thing IMO. It means you can enter SPS backdoor codes normally without an extra select messing things up. Note that during Live TV the Mini Guide still works and that's where it makes a lot more sense to have it anyway. You can still bring up the full guide in playback mode anyway.
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This was their intention... Post from another thread:
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* Mini Guide
- pressing SELECT to bring up the Mini Guide now only works in Live TV (disabled in Recordings)
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10-31-2012, 06:37 PM
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I can't believe they still didn't add the "Sort by Original Air Date" option to the NPL... 
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10-31-2012, 06:38 PM
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This was their intention... Post from another thread:
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Yes I know it was intentional and I like it.
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10-31-2012, 07:29 PM
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Yes I know it was intentional and I like it.
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I mean that to be a reply to cwoody222 but it looks like I clicked the wrong quote button... sorry about that.
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10-31-2012, 08:33 PM
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I can't believe they still didn't add the "Sort by Original Air Date" option to the NPL... |
The issue I have with this feature is so much stuff seems to be missing the OAD info that I'd only have a couple things actually sorted. I like the idea though.
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