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Old 10-12-2012, 08:36 AM   #1
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The Vampire Diaries 10/11/12 "Growing Pains"

Not a bad start to the season. Notes.

- I hate Klaus with a fiery passion, but at least they've removed the Hybrid creation option. Neutering him a bit.
- Hope they stick with Rebecca being separated from Klaus. I'd like to see her soften a bit and join the gang.
- Damon and Elena. Ugh.
- Great line by Tyler/Klaus about 'right time, wrong equipment' or something like that.
- Good job Bonnie. You killed Grams a second time!

The biggest problem I have with the show right now is the love triangle. They are clearly going for 'Elena loves Stefan but has Passion (capital P) with Damon'. So we'll get a full season where Elena probably waffles for a bit some more, then goes with Damon. But the endgame will always be Stefan (soulmates and all that jazz), so essentially they are just yanking our chains.
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:37 AM   #2
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I notice I didn't say anything about the Pastor and his sacrifice. What's up with that? Ghost Army?
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:55 AM   #3
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Perhaps I am a little dense (or don't recall the past seasons very well), but I didn't get the "right time, wrong equipment" comment.

The pastor stuff was weird. His plans fall apart, so he goes the murder/suicide/cult route? How is that going to further his cause? And wouldn't anyone in the room have seen him mucking around behind the stove?

Hopefully Small Head (Elena) will stop being such a limp noodle now that she is a vampire. I doubt it though.

I felt like I was watching a Mad Men the way the guys were throwing back the Scotch. Usually it is just Damon, but this episode it seemed like every scene was accompanied by a stiff drink.
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:57 AM   #4
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Perhaps I am a little dense (or don't recall the past seasons very well), but I didn't get the "right time, wrong equipment" comment.
Klaus was making a joke because he was in Tyler's body, not his own. He'd obviously rather shtup Caroline as himself.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:04 PM   #5
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Kinda weird that the only people commenting in this thread so far are guys.

Have we seen Pastor Crazy before? What kind of monsters can a group of unsuspecting blowed up people become?

I swear. Why don't the residents of Mystic Falls just sell their houses and move away instead of fighting the vampires?
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:05 PM   #6
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why was there no hole in her shirt where the stake pierced her chest???
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:13 PM   #7
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Elena and Stefan are the two boringest lead characters on any show I watch.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:28 PM   #8
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It's sad that Photoshopgrl became such a Supernatural fangirl that she ditched TVD.

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Old 10-12-2012, 03:51 PM   #9
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When Elena was getting overly giddy/emotional and laughing manically at saying "We'll cross that bridge," I had to wonder if the clip would be played out of context on The Soup next week!
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It's sad that Photoshopgrl became such a Supernatural fangirl that she ditched TVD.

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Did not ditch! Just still catching up on shows!!
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:25 PM   #11
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I finally caught up, but some of the stuff confused me. Apparently I am not alone...

http://www.tv.com/news/the-vampire-d...o-recap-29811/

Not as funny as usual, but a good recap that addresses a lot of the same questions I had while watching.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:39 AM   #12
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I've been out of town and my slingbox is dead, so just got finished watching. I'm so happy the show is back but so sad that Bonnie isn't dead yet. I get that the show needs a witch, but I really wish it wasn't Bonnie. Loved seeing Grams again! Is she really dead this time?

I feel sorry for Rebekah. She's lucky she's an original because she really sucks at being a vamp ;-)

And the whole pastor thing...huh? I know this show introduces and then quickly kills off new characters, but that was the strangest one yet.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:19 PM   #13
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I was kind of "meh" on this episode. It was all over the place.

I hope they do more with Elena and Damon this season... Nina Dobrev and Paul Wesley just have NO chemistry. It's like watching a brother and sister pretend they are in love.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:07 AM   #14
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Man what a difference my view on this show is now. And why am I comparing everything to SPN? I never used to do that with shows. I enjoyed what I enjoyed for different reasons.

So yeah, Stefan snoozefest as usual. I want to like him and Elena because I know they are supposed to be soul mates/end game here. I just cannot. I really don't care about her and Damon either.... although I did enjoy her 3D memory of when he had compelled her. And I'm sorry but if it's me, I'd rather have someone that felt the way Damon feels than Stefan. In the end, Damon would keep me alive and Stefan wouldn't. Damon's love for her isn't exactly rational or healthy but it's all consuming and I'm not sure how they get him past it at this point. I need him to move on but I can't see how he can ever. So I guess we'll just continue the triangle of bore another season. Yay.

Can they please give Rebekah more to do other than be a snot? I really like her those few moments they give her just a bit of humanity. I knew when she was watching Stefan/Elena she was going to end up helping them. Girl just needs love. Just GOD PLEASE NOT MATT. I do not want him on my screen any more than possible. We can introduce someone new for her.

Okay so THANK YOU show for not going there with the Caroline/Klaus in Tyler's body thing. I was afraid that would be dragged out or that he would allow something to happen. So my hatred for Klaus subsides just a tiny bit there. Why did Tyler collapse once Klaus was out of him?

The pastor guy.. WTF. I don't get any of that. I'm not even going to try right now.

Alaric's presence was greatly missed for me. And my wait begins for Elijah! (you knew that was coming right?)
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:32 AM   #15
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The Elena/Stefan thing was almost kinda interesting a tiny bit in that he was a godless killing machine vampire and she was human. Now that they're both vampires and goody-two-shoes ones at that, who cares?
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The Elena/Stefan thing was almost kinda interesting a tiny bit in that he was a godless killing machine vampire and she was human. Now that they're both vampires and goody-two-shoes ones at that, who cares?
I'll take Stefan/Elena over the pathetic attempt to make Damon palatable. You're definitely correct they've watered down Stefan/Elena in an effort to build up Damon/Elena. There was plenty of interest and passion between them in Season 1.

Oh, I guess the fact that Damon said he loved you once and then mindraped her makes him awesome! Oh, I guess since he met her first and mindraped her makes him awesome! We'll just forget about all the times he raped her friends, killed her brother, blithely tried to get her killed, cared very little about almost getting her friends killed, etc...

Did I mention I hate Klaus?
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And the whole pastor thing...huh? I know this show introduces and then quickly kills off new characters, but that was the strangest one yet.
I don't think for one second that they are gone for good. That guy is too recognizable of a guest actor to not be on the show more than one episode.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:34 AM   #18
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Yeah, the Pastor definitely had a plan, we just don't know what wacky thing it is yet.

I would like to avoid a season of Klaus based Originals highjinks. His Hybrid plans are now kaput, can he just go about wooing Caroline in an evil sort of manner? Let's have an external, non-current character villain for a bit.
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I was kind of "meh" on this episode. It was all over the place.

I hope they do more with Elena and Damon this season... Nina Dobrev and Paul Wesley just have NO chemistry. It's like watching a brother and sister pretend they are in love.
I can't imagine Stefan having chemistry with anyone. He's ok to look at, but just sooooo boring. Even when he was killer vamp he was blah.

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I can't imagine Stefan having chemistry with anyone. He's ok to look at, but just sooooo boring. Even when he was killer vamp he was blah.
The woman who plays the doctor is his RL wife, so maybe when they get Elena and Damon together they can hook him up with the doctor. Hopefully he'd at least have some real chemistry with his own wife.
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In the different strokes category, my wife much prefers Stefan to Damon.
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The woman who plays the doctor is his RL wife, so maybe when they get Elena and Damon together they can hook him up with the doctor. Hopefully he'd at least have some real chemistry with his own wife.
Wouldn't place any bets on that.
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