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Old 10-05-2012, 07:47 AM   #151
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After 15 minutes in I realized I didn't care about anyone and deleted the episode and SP. I'm not going to commit to a series I know will be cancelled.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:20 AM   #152
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I predict that Giancarlo Espisito's character will begin to have growing respect for Charlie's brother, and will eventually take him under his wing. Some sort of Stockholm Syndrome relationship will develop, and by the time Charlie finally reaches her brother (at the end of this season), he'll be fully involved as a member of the militia. Maybe even directly involved with Monroe.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:32 AM   #153
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One of my favorite books is The Stand. The second he said Stu Redmond and Franny I was rolling on the floor. My wife had to ask why.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:36 AM   #154
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After 15 minutes in I realized I didn't care about anyone and deleted the episode and SP. I'm not going to commit to a series I know will be cancelled.
And yet it was just renewed for a full season...
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:57 AM   #155
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After 15 minutes in I realized I didn't care about anyone and deleted the episode and SP. I'm not going to commit to a series I know will be cancelled.
It shouldn't be cancelled this season since they got an order for a full season yesterday. The ratings are currently very good for Revolution.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:38 AM   #156
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And yet it was just renewed for a full season...
Didn't The Event and FlashForward also get a full season ticket?



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Old 10-05-2012, 11:46 AM   #157
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Didn't The Event and FlashForward also get a full season ticket?


True, but they also got "retooled" mid-season. That has not happened for Revolution. Could it? Maybe...
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:07 PM   #158
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As long as they keep getting decent ratings they will be ok. If the ratings start to drop alot then that is another story. But currently it's beating everything in it's time slot by a good margin. (At least in the demographic that matters to advertisers)
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:22 PM   #159
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How do they make US flag tattoos? Don't know how tattoos are made but would think modern tattoos require electricity
The only requirement for a tattoo is some sort of needle and some sort of pigment.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:23 PM   #160
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The only requirement for a tattoo is some sort of needle and some sort of pigment.
Sure, but an intricate us flag tattoo is certainly going to be a lot more effort.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:31 PM   #161
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One of my favorite books is The Stand. The second he said Stu Redmond and Franny I was rolling on the floor. My wife had to ask why.
+ 1. I thought it was great. At least one writer is a fan of the Stand. Not to mention the unknown baddie called Randall. I immediately thought Flagg.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:39 PM   #162
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Sure, but an intricate us flag tattoo is certainly going to be a lot more effort.
I'm not saying it's quick and easy, and in fact I think it's kind of ridiculous to think the rebels would take the time to do it given the situation they're in. I'm just saying it doesn't require any electricity. Lots and lots of absolutely beautiful tattooing was going on long, long, long before anyone ever even thought about electricity.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:49 PM   #163
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I'm not saying it's quick and easy, and in fact I think it's kind of ridiculous to think the rebels would take the time to do it given the situation they're in. I'm just saying it doesn't require any electricity. Lots and lots of absolutely beautiful tattooing was going on long, long, long before anyone ever even thought about electricity.
True. And the whole us flag tattoo thing is kind of weird anyway since, as I alluded to earlier, there are a LOT of people who currently already have them. Unless they go around and force the removal of them, it's not really all that significant for someone to have one.
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:01 PM   #164
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True. And the whole us flag tattoo thing is kind of weird anyway since, as I alluded to earlier, there are a LOT of people who currently already have them. Unless they go around and force the removal of them, it's not really all that significant for someone to have one.
That wouldn't be a problem. Tattoos that were made with electricity would have disappeared.


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Old 10-05-2012, 03:11 PM   #165
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I looked and looked, but I couldn't find a tattoo gun on the interwebs that worked by pumping a treadle with your foot instead of using electricity. I'm sure one exists out there, I found dental drill that worked by pumping a foot, and of course there's sewing machine's.
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:32 PM   #166
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Sure, but an intricate us flag tattoo is certainly going to be a lot more effort.
The tattoo only used one color ink and the flag only had 13 stars, didn't seem that intricate to me.
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:42 PM   #167
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The tattoo only used one color ink and the flag only had 13 stars, didn't seem that intricate to me.
There were at least three ink colors (white, blue, and red or black - can't tell from screen caps). The stars were tiny. That would be pretty impressive work for a prison tattoo.
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There were at least three ink colors (white, blue, and red or black - can't tell from screen caps). The stars were tiny. That would be pretty impressive work for a prison tattoo.
I think it's just red & blue, with her skin serving as white. And there's no reason it has to be a "prison" tattoo in regards to the skill level. As I said, there were plenty of people doing gorgeous tattoo work long before there were any powered needles.

Again, I'm not saying there's any good reason for the rebels to be doing this in the context of the story that's being told here. I'm just saying that tattoos can be done, and done very well, without any modern technology whatsoever.
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I looked and looked, but I couldn't find a tattoo gun on the interwebs that worked by pumping a treadle with your foot instead of using electricity. I'm sure one exists out there, I found dental drill that worked by pumping a foot, and of course there's sewing machine's.
Just a plain old sewing needle will work just fine. No machine necessary. It won't be quick, it won't be convenient, and it won't make any story sense in this show, but it will work. I promise.
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I think it's just red & blue, with her skin serving as white. And there's no reason it has to be a "prison" tattoo in regards to the skill level. As I said, there were plenty of people doing gorgeous tattoo work long before there were any powered needles.

Again, I'm not saying there's any good reason for the rebels to be doing this in the context of the story that's being told here. I'm just saying that it tattoos can be done, and done very well, without any modern technology whatsoever.
Yes. I'm agreeing with you. The tattoo is more impressive than a typical prison tattoo (though some prison tattoos are pretty impressive!) and seemed like a lot of effort for what it is supposed to be.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:21 AM   #171
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That's is the one believable thing about this show, that we'd go to hell in a hand basket within 15 years.
I would expect hell to arrive during the first 2-5 years. But 15 years later I would think normal societies would be back.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:16 AM   #172
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We were driving through Wilmington, NC this summer from the beach house and my wife says "Hey their filming a civil war scene". Now thinking back it must have been a "Revolution" scene.

Was the military using muskets?? Why are rifles/ shotguns so rare? I have three in my basement with plenty of ammo they can use. I know only a few hard core deer hunters that use muskets to get a few extra weeks of deer hunting in but shotguns and rifles are quite bountiful.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:14 PM   #173
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Well it is 15 years later. I'm sure it was hell for many years while the global herd was thinned out.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:21 PM   #174
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Show is moving too slow for me.. hard for me to really get into it. Gotta pick up the pace.
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:39 PM   #175
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Show is moving too slow for me.. hard for me to really get into it. Gotta pick up the pace.
It's moving too slowly on the central mythology side of things for me. I don't really care that what that one soldier has to tell to his dead buddy's wife, or that what's-her-name is doing it for her miscarried kid, or that the other lady's son had asthma, or how Elizabeth Mitchell shot that guy for stealing their stuff. This show isn't written well-enough to be able to get away with it like Lost did. I want to know what caused the "event", where those amulets came from, how did Miles' brother come by it, etc., etc.
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yeah... Me too. I want to know about the power outage.. More on that. less on the current day crap. even the history of the militia. I would think they would have some flash backs back PRIOR to the black out. And why haven't they shown us other people that have power and computers??
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:14 AM   #177
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I want to know what caused the "event", where those amulets came from, how did Miles' brother come by it, etc., etc.
What would they have left once that was revealed?

Shows like this can be a drag because you know if they ever solve the main problem (i.e. get the electricity back) the show would be over. Just like if Gilligan got off the island.

Another nit-pick: the condition of the houses...

They act like every house is pretty normal except they burn candles. Wouldn't they all be rotting and mold infested after 15 years? Roofs would eventually leak. Water would freeze in the winter. Rain would come in because not everything would remain perfectly sealed.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:41 PM   #178
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They act like every house is pretty normal except they burn candles. Wouldn't they all be rotting and mold infested after 15 years? Roofs would eventually leak. Water would freeze in the winter. Rain would come in because not everything would remain perfectly sealed.
Yeah, I want to see the outhouses they all presumably have in the backyard because the bathrooms are unusable, or see everyone sleeping outside in the summer because the windows aren't big enough to get much air into the house...
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I'm still watching for now. I did get a huge kick out of Miles introducing himself and Charlie as Stu Redman and Franny. I just started re-reading The Stand on Sunday so that jumped out at me.
Yup - that hooked me, too.

I love clever pop culture references - this one worked!
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Another nit-pick: the condition of the houses...

They act like every house is pretty normal except they burn candles. Wouldn't they all be rotting and mold infested after 15 years? Roofs would eventually leak. Water would freeze in the winter. Rain would come in because not everything would remain perfectly sealed.
My grandmother grew up in a farmhouse with no electricity and no running water--it stood there for quite a few years. They still have hammers and nails and nothing to do except hunt and plant--no tv, no internet. To me the interesting part of these shows is how they adjust to this kind of stuff, but they're pretty much ignoring that. That tiny little patch of corn they had in their "village"--in 15 years you should have bigger fields than that.
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