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Old 04-01-2009, 10:11 PM   #1
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Life on Mars series finale "Life Is a Rock" (4/1/09)

OK, that. I did not. See coming.

But I like it.

I think.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:12 PM   #2
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I dont think I do.... still processing it though.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:25 PM   #3
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I caught the show while on vacation, though I had stopped watching earlier in the season. That I caught the series finale was a surprise, the ending even more so.

Kinda wish I had watched the rest of the season, knowing the show was to end. Sometimes I like one season shows. May have to rent it now to see how it all panned out. Is is worth it?
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:27 PM   #4
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Okay now I need to watch the rest of the UK series to see if that's how it ends. Somehow I think they did this swerve in the US version only.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:28 PM   #5
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Well Done

That is all I can say. It was very satisfying ending... I would recommend it to anyone.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:32 PM   #6
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Okay now I need to watch the rest of the UK series to see if that's how it ends. Somehow I think they did this swerve in the US version only.
Big time change.

The US version makes sense. The UK version doesn't (deliberately).

Watching the UK version, it was pretty cool; the two options were it was all a dream, or he was really there. In the end, they basically
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went a different route...it was something...else, something inexplicable.


I've suspected strongly all along that an American network would never go for that, and that whatever they came up with would be logical. I was kind of dreading it, in fact. But the more I think about this, the more it works for me. It's bizarre, it comes completely out of left field...and yet it fits. All the themes of the show play into it, all the relationships are thrown into sharp (and yet very different) focus. I'm betting that they knew from the beginning (or very near) that this is where they were ultimately heading, because it all points so directly to it in retrospect.

I'm going to enjoy watching the DVDs, and seeing how everything looks knowing the ending. I suspect it will have a lot of resonance that I just wasn't in a position to see the first time.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:39 PM   #7
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Big time change.

The US version makes sense. The UK version doesn't (deliberately).

Watching the UK version, it was pretty cool; the two options were it was all a dream, or he was really there. In the end, they basically
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went a different route...it was something...else, something inexplicable.


I've suspected strongly all along that an American network would never go for that, and that whatever they came up with would be logical. I was kind of dreading it, in fact. But the more I think about this, the more it works for me. It's bizarre, it comes completely out of left field...and yet it fits. All the themes of the show play into it, all the relationships are thrown into sharp (and yet very different) focus. I'm betting that they knew from the beginning (or very near) that this is where they were ultimately heading, because it all points so directly to it in retrospect.

I'm going to enjoy watching the DVDs, and seeing how everything looks knowing the ending. I suspect it will have a lot of resonance that I just wasn't in a position to see the first time.
I hated it!
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:07 PM   #8
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So, I lost interest in this series around episode 6 or 7 of the run. Do I really need to watch the rest to understand the ending? (obviously without spoilers please).

I got lucky and for some reason it's being repeated this morning in the wee hours. So I set it up to record. EDIT: Nevermind. I was looking at the ABCW listing, which I don't get. I'll have to download the ep.

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Old 04-01-2009, 11:30 PM   #9
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Well, that was certainly unexpected...I liked the British ending better.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:51 PM   #10
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Total Recall, anyone? Plus another PKD book that I remember...looked it up, it's
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Rule of multi-reality fiction: when a character doesn't know whether "a" or "b" is the real world, neither one is. See ST:TNG's "Frame of Mind" and a couple of others I can't remember right now.

I had not noticed last week that the FBI agent's name was Frank Morgan.

Did the entire audience get credit-punked? "Special Guest Lisa Bonet", implying one sort of ending, and then she's not seen at all?
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:53 PM   #11
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Just finished watching it. Not sure if I like it or not. I'll have to think some on it.

One question though, what happened to Sam's 2008 girlfriend, Maya? Did they cover that?
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:57 PM   #12
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I hated this finale. I loved the show but they managed to wreck the entire season in < 15 minutes.

I would've much rather had it be unclear if it was a coma/real/etc. than the pile of crap they laid on us.
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Old 04-02-2009, 01:47 AM   #13
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I'm still processing it. Part of me loved it it was so out of the blue. Yet there is another part that feels a bit cheated by it... LIke I would've liked for him to stay in '73.

Bu ti do agree with you Rob, that this really does tie into the themes set along the entire show.

Strange; I feel this was a better series end than BSG's. It held together better and made more of a tie to the series than BSG's did for me. You can see that a lot of thought went into how they were going to end it.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:18 AM   #14
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'Present day' Norris and President Obama versus 1973 Norris. Hmmm.


The one technical mistake:
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You can't have an interactive videophone conversation between Earth and Mars due to the speed of light.


The final segment could just be a dream.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:33 AM   #15
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Did the entire audience get credit-punked? "Special Guest Lisa Bonet", implying one sort of ending, and then she's not seen at all?
She had some hospital voice-overs.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:52 AM   #16
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Reminded me of that Twilight Zone episode where the 1960's space traveler had to stay isolated for x number of days and created his own reality.

But I liked it.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:53 AM   #17
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I liked it. A satisfying conclusion that made the entire series worth watching. And caught me *completely* unawares.

Twelve hours later, and I'm still stunned, and still like it.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:55 AM   #18
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I thought it was a creative ending. Certainly not what I expected but mostly satisfying nonetheless. The writers did a good job of explaining everything. While I can't say I was thrilled with the ending, I don't know that I can think of anything better.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:02 AM   #19
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So he was literally on mars? I watched the UK finale and was intrigued by it. This I didn't watch but would still like to know what happened. The entire show didn't click for me like the UK version. The UK version seemed more authentic.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:26 AM   #20
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I'm one of those who's on the fence with the ending. I generally don't like endings that are SO different than what happened during the rest of the show that it just seems added on. That's what I thought when I saw this, that the writers had to put something together quickly to end the series that they threw this up, rather than tie up all the pieces of him going back to 2008. I have the UK finale recorded (I didn't watch the whole UK version, but I figure I'll know enough to get the gist), and it will be interesting to compare.

But, the more I think about the ending, I thought it was way cool. I loved Harvey Kietel being Major Tom I was really surprised they used the Elton John tune rather than either Major Tom or Life on Mars at the end (I thought it could have been an copyright issued, but I recall they were using Life on Mars prior.

Anyway, I think I wll definitely get the DVD and see what the LOM team say about the story and ending. Overall, I'm sad to see this series go. Another interesting and different series that no one watches.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:23 AM   #21
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Yeah from watching the ending this one how at least a few more seasons of legs to it too. That's why the ending came out of left field. It was paced to last more than one season. Much better series than the crap that gets great ratings from CBS.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:31 AM   #22
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Very satisfying series finale

(I posting this before reading any other posts in this thread.)

Now THAT'S the way to end a series. Very satisfying conclusion. My first clue was when one of Vic's henchmen told Sam he looked like a spaceman. Tied up most loose ends very nicely...and I NEVER saw it coming that Gene was his father. Congrats to ABC.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:32 AM   #23
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I hated it!
Really intelligent post....

You want to explain why?
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...One question though, what happened to Sam's 2008 girlfriend, Maya? Did they cover that?
That was just a conjured up memory from the glitch. She was never "real".
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The one technical mistake:
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You can't have an interactive videophone conversation between Earth and Mars due to the speed of light.


The final segment could just be a dream.
Not necessarily. Theoretically, if you can make a communication device using quantum pairs then there would be no time lag. Perhaps they have developed that by that time...
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That was just a conjured up memory from the glitch. She was never "real".
1973 was the glitch. 2008 with Maya was the "intended" dream.

An a side note, the 2010 Annie could not be that old.
My 1973 mother was if anything older than Annie, and her 2009 self is younger than that.

Also, in one of the rooms at Hyde, there was a very modern Decora dimmer switch on the wall. I am just saying.
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That was just a conjured up memory from the glitch. She was never "real".
Was the little girl that kept appearing suppose to be Maya in 1973?

Hated the ending. What a cop out.

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1973 was the glitch. 2008 with Maya was the "intended" dream.

An a side note, the 2010 Annie could not be that old.
My 1973 mother was if anything older than Annie, and her 2009 self is younger than that.

Also, in one of the rooms at Hyde, there was a very modern Decora dimmer switch on the wall. I am just saying.
So Maya had nothing to do with reality, that wasn't a character he brought with him from his memory of the future, just a computer generated fictional character?

I'd say annie in 1973 was 30ish, so 65ish or so in the 'present' scenes... maybe the years in betwen just didn't treat her well.
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An a side note, the 2010 Annie could not be that old.
My 1973 mother was if anything older than Annie, and her 2009 self is younger than that.
On the other hand, your mother actually, you know, existed and stuff.
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I liked the finale. I was not disappointed. I will miss the show. But, I'm glad they wrapped it up instead of just ending it without resolution like so many other cancelled shows.
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