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Old 09-01-2012, 06:35 PM   #1
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Doctor Who "ASYLUM OF THE DALEKS"
September 1, 2012
BBC America

If you missed it, this episode does re-air this week.

BBC America page for this episode.
http://www.bbcamerica.com/doctor-who...n-7/episode-1/

Videos:
http://www.bbcamerica.com/doctor-who/videos/

Reminders/ Spoilers here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_of_the_Daleks

If you missed an episode, here is the tv schedule for current and re-run episodes:
http://www.bbcamerica.com/doctor-who/schedule

Also check On Demand and On Demand HD if your cable guys offer this.
(Some shows that are missing in HD are available in non-HD.)

Doctor Who specials include:

THE SCIENCE OF DOCTOR WHO

THE WOMEN OF DOCTOR WHO

THE TIMEY-WIMEY OF DOCTOR WHO

THE DESTINATIONS OF DOCTOR WHO

Don't forget the old threads like:

No new Doctor Who til summer, what will you do?
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=333509

Doctor Who "A Good Man Goes to War" June 11, 2011 BBC America
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=471209

So, what are your thoughts on this episode?



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Good first episode.

It won't break my heart when we are done with the Ponds though.

Interesting way to reboot the Daleks, it will really remove the advantage from the Doctor.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:48 PM   #7
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The Doctor's plans always remind me of this cartoon...



...except his plans are usually all Step Two.

So is he officially Doctor Who now?
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:00 PM   #8
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To the OP. Could we try and keep the ep threads about the ep?

I thought it was good. Again they setup someone you could imagine as a companion but they didn't make it to the end.

Not sure how this removes the advantage from The Doctor. Seems it gives him an advantage.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:18 PM   #9
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I thought it was good. Again they setup someone you could imagine as a companion but they didn't make it to the end.
Ironically,
Spoiler:
she IS the new companion, although nobody seems to be able to figure out how that's going to work. Her presence in this episode was a very well-kept secret. She (re)joins the cast for good in the Christmas Special.

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Not sure how this removes the advantage from The Doctor. Seems it gives him an advantage.
Seems to me it could cut both ways. On the one hand, the Daleks will underestimate him. On the other, they won't waste all their time screaming in panic.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:24 PM   #10
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Ironically,
Spoiler:
she IS the new companion, although nobody seems to be able to figure out how that's going to work. Her presence in this episode was a very well-kept secret. She (re)joins the cast for good in the Christmas Special.
Spoiler:
Well, the Doctor does have a time machine. Maybe he will meet her before she got Dalek-ized. And find that her name is not really Oswin. But that would also require that Oswin had her memories of the Doctor wiped (since she did not recognize him), which is possible but makes this theory less likely.

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Old 09-01-2012, 09:45 PM   #11
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What color?

Made me giggle. And not really a bad question. (it could have been relevant)...
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:48 PM   #12
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I don't mind but that's a pretty big spoiler without any warning
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I don't mind but that's a pretty big spoiler without any warning
Without extra additional redundant warning, you mean? Because the word "spoiler" seems like a warning to me.
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But you have no clue what the spoiler is about. The main warning would have been 'future episode spoiler'
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:22 PM   #15
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I enjoyed the episode a lot, probably since I didn't see the ending coming at all and that's likely because as far as I know, the Daleks have never actually converted a human into a full blown Dalek before. They reluctantly used human DNA to splice together Daleks (which were considered impure), but never converted a human into a Dalek. I think Moffat confused the Daleks for the Cybermen.

Still despite that somewhat major flaw, I enjoyed the episode.

Oh and I thought this was TCF, not Reddit.
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:30 PM   #16
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I enjoyed the episode a lot, probably since I didn't see the ending coming at all and that's likely because as far as I know, the Daleks have never actually converted a human into a full blown Dalek before. They reluctantly used human DNA to splice together Daleks (which were considered impure), but never converted a human into a Dalek. I think Moffat confused the Daleks for the Cybermen.

Still despite that somewhat major flaw, I enjoyed the episode.

Oh and I thought this was TCF, not Reddit.
But remember these were insane and crazy daleks placed in an asylum.
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:44 PM   #17
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But you have no clue what the spoiler is about. The main warning would have been 'future episode spoiler'
Very funny.

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I enjoyed the episode a lot, probably since I didn't see the ending coming at all and that's likely because as far as I know,
I guessed the correct ending as soon as the Doctor mentioned how difficult it is to hack Dalek tech. Then I was 100% certain when the Doctor asked how she was getting milk for the souffles.
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:09 PM   #19
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I watched the BBC airing and now watch the BBC America recording. Was there much cut?
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I guessed the correct ending as soon as the Doctor mentioned how difficult it is to hack Dalek tech. Then I was 100% certain when the Doctor asked how she was getting milk for the souffles.
I thought maybe she was converted into a human puppet and was seeing things (like Amy was earlier), but being totally converted into a Dalek didn't even cross my mind since as I've said, it's never been done before. I'm not sure how it's really even possible. Did they put her brain in a Dalek shell or something, or did they turn her into a squid?
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I watched the BBC airing and now watch the BBC America recording. Was there much cut?
Probably. I've been watching the marathon episodes, and have been noticing the scenes they've cut even since the original BBCA airing. So annoying.
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Wait a minute. How were The Doctor and Rory hearing a human voice?
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Wait a minute. How were The Doctor and Rory hearing a human voice?
They spoke through ship's comm. They only did "Dalek Voice" when the Doctor was in the same room and hearing with his own ears.

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Old 09-02-2012, 07:27 AM   #24
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I don't mind but that's a pretty big spoiler without any warning
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Without extra additional redundant warning, you mean? Because the word "spoiler" seems like a warning to me.
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But you have no clue what the spoiler is about. The main warning would have been 'future episode spoiler'
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Yes it would have been nice if it was mentioned that it was a spoiler about a future episode. This thread is about the first episode of the season. Since I already watched it I didn't think I had to worry about reading something in a spoiler tag. But I was wrong since the spoiler was not about the episode but an episode far in the future of this season.
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:41 AM   #25
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That's why it had a spoiler tag.

There's no such thing as a spoiler from the current episode in an episode thread.

Ironically, I thought I had given too much away with the "ironically," since there's really only one spoiler that could have followed in that context. The reason I went ahead is because it isn't really a spoiler, since
Spoiler:
the new companion has been very widely publicized, and the intent of the producers wasn't to slip her in unnoticed, but rather to have it be a huge shock when she showed up several episodes early.

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I also guessed the reveal about poor Oswin (sp?).

I was disappointed in the episode as a whole, although I can't exactly pin down why. It was crazy and chaotic, which should have equaled "fun", yet somehow it didn't for me.

I will say that the entire business about Amy and Rory splitting up was unnecessary, and the reason for their split was terribly contrived. Do they live in an alternate universe where men never face disappointment and where adoption/surrogacy/infertility treatments don't exist?

Why did the Daleks not think that the Doctor had been killed, as the rest of the universe was led to believe last season?
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I've been watching Dr. Who for 40 years.

This. Was. Awful.

It was one of the worst episodes I can remember. I'm not a fan of Matt Smith to begin with, and this is solidifying it even more.
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Wait a minute. How were The Doctor and Rory hearing a human voice?
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They spoke through ship's comm. They only did "Dalek Voice" when the Doctor was in the same room and hearing with his own ears.

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I understand JohnB1000's question, and while it hadn't occurred to me while watching I think it is a very good one. I don't follow Carlos' answer: are you saying that the ship's comm somehow converted the Dalek-sounding-voice to make it sound human?

As far as the spoiler goes, I'll weigh in to say:

(spoilerizing, because I comment about the substance of Rob's spoiler)
Spoiler:

1. I've known there is going to be a new companion this season, but I hadn't heard when or who. So Rob's spoiler did spoil me.

2. Rob spoilerized it, so I have only myself to blame for reading it.

3. It might have been nice had there been a contextual warning preceeding it, but I don't think forum rules require that. (e.g. parenthetically stating (plot spoiler) or (casting spoiler) etc).

4. The fact that the new companion has been widely publicized wouldn't make it fair game to be stated unspoilerized, since news from third party sources must be spoilerized, but, again, Rob did spoilerize it.

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I watched the BBC airing and now watch the BBC America recording. Was there much cut?
To me it SEEMED like the BBCA airing moved more quickly, but I don't remember anything important from the BBC One airing not being there.
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(spoilerizing, because I comment about the substance of Rob's spoiler)
Spoiler:

1. I've known there is going to be a new companion this season, but I hadn't heard when or who. So Rob's spoiler did spoil me.

2. Rob spoilerized it, so I have only myself to blame for reading it.

3. It might have been nice had there been a contextual warning preceeding it, but I don't think forum rules require that. (e.g. parenthetically stating (plot spoiler) or (casting spoiler) etc).

4. The fact that the new companion has been widely publicized wouldn't make it fair game to be stated unspoilerized, since news from third party sources must be spoilerized, but, again, Rob did spoilerize it.
Spoiler:
In response to 3, that would have only made it worse. "casting spoiler" would have given it away to anyone paying attention to the context.


Rob followed the rules, and not only that, he followed them wisely.

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