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Old 08-29-2012, 11:57 AM   #211
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Can the DEA just "tail" the lawyer for no reason and without some type of warrant or something?
I think it depends on how extensive their efforts are. As long as the lawyer is in public, he has no expectation of privacy and the DEA can watch him all they want. If that's all they do, it's probably OK (except for the fact that Hank's boss told him there was no further budget for surveillance for this case).
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:57 AM   #212
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It's one thing to discuss it. Even give & take a few times. It's another to beat it to death, over and over, endlessly, post after post, same point again and again, neither side letting up, hash and rehash, like this sentence that never stops.
Were people repeating themselves or further elaborating on why they felt a certain way? From my reading of the thread, I see much more of the latter than the former.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:02 PM   #213
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I think it depended on the type of emergency. If Mike had to bug out because of a threat from the Cartel or other drug dealers, going to the airport should not be a problem. If he has to bug out because law enforcement is after him and have him under surveillance, there's probably nowhere safe to hide the bag. So the airport is probably as good a place as any.
And I think part of it was also to keep the money/gun/fake IDs away from himself while the DEA was watching him. He likes to be prepared, so he set it up so that it could be used in an emergency. But given that there was no immediate threat, I think the primary purpose of the car at the airport was as a hiding spot.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:03 PM   #214
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I think it depended on the type of emergency. If Mike had to bug out because of a threat from the Cartel or other drug dealers, going to the airport should not be a problem. If he has to bug out because law enforcement is after him and have him under surveillance, there's probably nowhere safe to hide the bag. So the airport is probably as good a place as any.
I think we've seen (from the money drop pickup episode with Jesse) that there are a million places to hide things. At the time he hid the bag, the most pressing threat was the DEA. It just seemed odd to me. Another one of those "that's not how this person would behave but was needed for the story".
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:10 PM   #216
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I think it depends on how extensive their efforts are. As long as the lawyer is in public, he has no expectation of privacy and the DEA can watch him all they want. If that's all they do, it's probably OK (except for the fact that Hank's boss told him there was no further budget for surveillance for this case).
Now in Hank's defense (Hank on the show, not Hank in this thread) he was told that there was no further budget for surveillance of Ehrmantraut (sp?) and Hank took that literally as his way around the directive.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:12 PM   #217
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I can't wait to see Hank's face when he finally realizes Heisenberg's identity. I'm practically giddy with anticipation.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:13 PM   #218
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Now in Hank's defense (Hank on the show, not Hank in this thread) he was told that there was no further budget for surveillance of Ehrmantraut (sp?) and Hank took that literally as his way around the directive.
Oh, I realize what Hank was doing. But I think we all know what his boss meant.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:16 PM   #219
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I can't wait to see Hank's face when he finally realizes Heisenberg's identity. I'm practically giddy with anticipation.
Exactly. I hope he figures it out just from all the clues*, as opposed to catching Walt red-handed or on a stake-out, bug, or some such.

*Like realizing back to S01 when all that meth-making equipment was stolen from Walt's high-school lab.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:24 PM   #220
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:50 PM   #221
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And I think part of it was also to keep the money/gun/fake IDs away from himself while the DEA was watching him. He likes to be prepared, so he set it up so that it could be used in an emergency. But given that there was no immediate threat, I think the primary purpose of the car at the airport was as a hiding spot.
Yet he has hiding spots all over the city and desert that only he seems to know about. I'm not sure why he didn't use any of them.


EDIT: I said dessert, not desert. I don't think Mike's hiding things in banana splits -- but I could be wrong.

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Old 08-29-2012, 02:01 PM   #222
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Exactly. I hope he figures it out just from all the clues*, as opposed to catching Walt red-handed or on a stake-out, bug, or some such.

*Like realizing back to S01 when all that meth-making equipment was stolen from Walt's high-school lab.
Agreed.

They could do a very cool scene where he remembers certain tidbits that mean next-to-nothing on their own but add up to the answer he's been searching for.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:03 PM   #223
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Agreed.

They could do a very cool scene where he remembers certain tidbits that mean next-to-nothing on their own but add up to the answer he's been searching for.
Though it seems like if he was going to piece it together, he would have already done it by now. He may have to catch Walt in the act of cooking meth and killing a couple of guys or he'll never figure it out.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:06 PM   #224
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True.

Or just more clues?

I'm a little embarrassed for Hank. I figured out he was cooking meth way back in season 2.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:10 PM   #225
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I think it depends on how extensive their efforts are. As long as the lawyer is in public, he has no expectation of privacy and the DEA can watch him all they want. If that's all they do, it's probably OK (except for the fact that Hank's boss told him there was no further budget for surveillance for this case).
That's a pretty wide net, that's anytime he goes outside.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:13 PM   #226
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When Hank was looking at the one picture of Mike and got interrupted during the meeting were we supposed to notice something in the picture?
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:13 PM   #227
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A long time ago, SNL did a parody of Twin Peaks where the obvious bad guy kept confessing and Agent Cooper (Hank's equivalent in that show) kept investigating other people. The bad guy was doing things like showing photos and video of him killing someone and Agent Cooper kept on going in other directions.

BB isn't there yet, but could be pretty soon.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:17 PM   #228
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When Hank was looking at the one picture of Mike and got interrupted during the meeting were we supposed to notice something in the picture?
I think it was just to show Hank's complete obsession with the case, since he totally tuned out during the meeting. This obsession is what might just keep him from realizing that Heisenberg is Walter White.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:17 PM   #229
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A long time ago, SNL did a parody of Twin Peaks where the obvious bad guy kept confessing and Agent Cooper (Hank's equivalent in that show) kept investigating other people. The bad guy was doing things like showing photos and video of him killing someone and Agent Cooper kept on going in other directions.

BB isn't there yet, but could be pretty soon.
Do you really think it should be so obvious to Hank just yet? I'm not sure.

Plus, right or wrong, we all tend to categorize people into a certain "box". Hank may have to be hit smack over the head with this before he's able to take Walt out of the "nerdy, smart teacher brother-in-law" box and put him into the "meth kingpin Heisenberg" box. That has to be a huge mental leap to make. Almost inconceivable, from his point of view.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:21 PM   #230
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Agreed.

They could do a very cool scene where he remembers certain tidbits that mean next-to-nothing on their own but add up to the answer he's been searching for.
There are so many other little things... like when Walt and Hank were looking through Gale's notebook, and Hank noticed the initials "W.W." -- Hank was already a little suspicious of Walt, but then Walt deflected it to Walt Whitman.

If I were Hank (he he), I'd be really suspicious why Walt doesn't spend *any* time at or running the car wash. I mean, what else (according to Hank) does Walt have to do? I think we saw that Marie is helping Skyler at the car wash. Wouldn't Marie wonder why Walt is never there?
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:22 PM   #231
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Do you really think it should be so obvious to Hank just yet? I'm not sure...
I don't think it is obvious at all.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:44 PM   #232
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No, not obvious at all.

It's a family member. A milquetoast, boring, humdrum dude. Never done anything wrong. It would be like me thinking my mom is running a meth lab.


MOM?!?

Oh, she's not. Right.

Anyway, Walt has cancer, is in remission. His life is now crazy and it's hard to know how someone reacts to that. The cancer might even help hide Walt more.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:45 PM   #233
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That's a pretty wide net, that's anytime he goes outside.
Yes. I don't see any problem with that. Do you?
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:51 PM   #234
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What ever became of the drawing of Heisenberg? That still floating around?


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Old 08-29-2012, 03:01 PM   #235
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Shouldn't there be a goatee on that artwork of Heisenberg?

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Apparently not!



BTW, that drawing was in Mexico.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:14 PM   #236
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Two bold predictions (which probably won't come true)

Spoiler:
Saul ends up the last man standing, and makes off with a bunch of money

and
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Hank only realizes Walt is Heisenberg as Walt stands over him to put a bullet in his head

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Old 08-29-2012, 03:26 PM   #237
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I really don't think Walt/Heisenberg would ever kill Hank.

Walt thinks he's too smart to ever get caught. If he does get caught, he'll either take what's due to him (jail), or he'll kill himself first.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:32 PM   #238
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I really don't think Walt/Heisenberg would ever kill Hank.

Walt thinks he's too smart to ever get caught. If he does get caught, he'll either take what's due to him (jail), or he'll kill himself first.
old Hank yes. new Hank, no.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:50 PM   #239
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I think Walt would kill Hank without batting an eye.
Nothing to do with Hank but,

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I think Walt's 'breaking bad' will be 100% complete this Sunday.

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Old 08-29-2012, 04:43 PM   #240
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Two bold predictions (which probably won't come true)

Spoiler:
Saul ends up the last man standing, and makes off with a bunch of money

and
Spoiler:
Hank only realizes Walt is Heisenberg as Walt stands over him to put a bullet in his head
I too think that second one comes to pass.

The first one would be awesome. For some reason I really root for that sleezebag.
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