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Old 07-25-2012, 07:50 AM   #1
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Modern Family cast members suing to void contracts

http://news.yahoo.com/cast-modern-fa...193243339.html

Wait. You're suing to get out of contracts YOU signed? Why not sue your agents?
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:55 AM   #2
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That should be it for the show's glory days. Contempt and resentment do not make a positive work environment. These people are unbelievable. Many many people can not support their families in this country, and these actors are making gobs of money. Yeah, let's sue the people who enable us to ride in limousines and such. That's the ticket.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:41 AM   #3
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The "people" who allowed them to ride in limousines are going to be rolling in the dough since the show was just sold to syndication.

It is ridiculous to be sure considering this is the kind of money ordinary people will never see -
but they're just trying to get an equitable piece of the pie.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:53 AM   #4
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And this is why networks love reality TV. Put a dozen or so people on and let them fight each other for half of what these actors make per episode.

Edit: I didn't realize how little they were being paid right now. The above statement was based on the last few seasons of Friends. I think they need to cough up the dough for these actors, actually.

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That should be it for the show's glory days. Contempt and resentment do not make a positive work environment. These people are unbelievable. Many many people can not support their families in this country, and these actoes are making gobs of money. Yeah, let's sue the people who enable us to ride in limousines and such. That's the ticket.
You do realize their bosses are making even larger gobs of money? Why aren't they held to the same level of greed? These actors just want to be paid what stars of a HIT show typically get going forward. Nothing wrong with it.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:09 AM   #6
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"The suit filed Tuesday ... argues that their contracts with 20th Century Fox Television violate a California law prohibiting personal service contracts from extending for more than seven years."

Hasn't this argument been tried before and failed? Seven-year contracts for a new TV show are the industry standard (and if the show becomes a hit, typically there are renegotiations all around... it's just that in this instance, the renegotiations reached an impasse).

I would have thought the question of the legality of the seven year contract would have been definitively resolved by now, since it's been in use for so long.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:12 AM   #7
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You do realize their bosses are making even larger gobs of money? Why aren't they held to the same level of greed? These actors just want to be paid what stars of a HIT show typically get going forward. Nothing wrong with it.
They were not forced to sign the contract in the first place. They chose to. If they didn't like the offer then, they should not have signed it.
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And this is why networks love reality TV. Put a dozen or so people on and let them fight each other for half of what these actors make per episode.

Edit: I didn't realize how little they were being paid right now. The above statement was based on the last few seasons of Friends. I think they need to cough up the dough for these actors, actually.
How little are they paid? From what I recently read, Sofia Vergara was one of the wealthiest women on TV Today.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:17 AM   #9
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How little are they paid? From what I recently read, Sofia Vergara was one of the wealthiest women on TV Today.
She is, but she does a lot of other stuff.

The article I read said this:

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The actors were offered $150,000 per episode and a $50,000 bonus per episode for the upcoming fourth season, and $200,000 for the fifth season, a person familiar with the negotiations told TheWrap.com, but those figures could not be confirmed.

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Old 07-25-2012, 10:28 AM   #10
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And those numbers represent a raise. That's peanuts for a hit show. The leads on Friends were pulling in a million per episode by the end, IIRC.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:30 AM   #11
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It's hard to feel sympathy for any of them, actors or the show creators.

I saw one article that said they were offered pay raises that would bump them from 65,000 an episode to 150,000 an episode. For a 22 episode season that is a jump from 1.43 million a year to 3.3 million a year.

Obviously I don't know the other terms of the contracts but that seems like a nice bump to me.
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And those numbers represent a raise. That's peanuts for a hit show. The leads on Friends were pulling in a million per episode by the end, IIRC.
This show is not the juggernaut Friends was.

Even the main three actors of the Big Bang Theory only make about $200,000 per episode and it a higher rated show.
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but that seems like a nice bump to me.
In a vacuum devoid of context, yes, it is.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:36 AM   #14
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This show is not the juggernaut Friends was.
I'm not saying they should get Friends money, I'm just providing some context.

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Even the main three actors of the Big Bang Theory only make about $200,000 per episode and it a higher rated show.
That's it? They need better agents.

Seriously though... BBT is being syndicated all over the place right now. They must be getting a serious piece of that, one way or the other.
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She is, but she does a lot of other stuff.

The article I read said this:
4.4 million for a season?
They may deserve more (based on other shows) but 4.4 million for 22 episodes is not that shabby.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:30 AM   #16
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Anybody who is calling them greedy would probably be doing the same thing they're doing if the shoe was on the other foot.
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My problem is while I like the show, aside from Sofia Vergara and Ty Burrell, the others are totally expendable.

Julie Bowen can argue she should make more because of all the money she saves them in not using the food services.
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Julie Bowen can argue she should make more because of all the money she saves them in not using the food services.
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Anybody who is calling them greedy would probably be doing the same thing they're doing if the shoe was on the other foot.
Did Sofia Vergara give money back for "Knights of Prosperity" or "Dirty Sexy Money"?

I wonder how much the writers are getting?
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Did Sofia Vergara give money back for "Knights of Prosperity" or "Dirty Sexy Money"?
And that's the reason why the initial contracts are for the industry minimum, and then renegotiated if the show becomes a hit.
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But why sign a 7 year contract? I am all for people getting what they are worth. Sign a 2 year deal, then negotiate on years 3+.

And a lawsuit isn't much of a negotiation.

Ed O'Neill was making $100k an episode per his own negotiation. Now he is joining the suit in solidarity with his castmates.
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Whether it's $50,000 or $5,000,000 I can't hate on anyone asking for what they are worth relative to the revenue they generate.

Sure it's a lot of money for us, but for actors on the most critically acclaimed comedy on TV right now, that's peanuts.
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But why sign a 7 year contract? I am all for people getting what they are worth. Sign a 2 year deal, then negotiate on years 3+.

And a lawsuit isn't much of a negotiation.

Ed O'Neill was making $100k an episode per his own negotiation. Now he is joining the suit in solidarity with his castmates.
if you're an unknown in Hollywood, as most of them were, you don't have any leverage.
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But why sign a 7 year contract? I am all for people getting what they are worth. Sign a 2 year deal, then negotiate on years 3+.
That seems to be the industry standard. And when it comes to the initial contract for a new show, unless you're an established name actor, the producers hold all the cards in the negotiations.
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if you're an unknown in Hollywood, as most of them were, you don't have any leverage.
Julie Bowen, Ed O'Neill, Sofia Vergara = unknowns before MF? I don't think so...
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Julie Bowen, Ed O'Neill, Sofia Vergara = unknowns before MF? I don't think so...
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They were famous before MF...perhaps they don't represent "most" of the cast, but certainly other cast members were not "unknown". Famous? No. Unknown...no.
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Well according to the article the contract they signed was for seven years 4 months.

So if the industry standard is 7 years, is 7 years 4 months longer than the standard?

It seems to me that the industry standard is indeed 7 years because that is the max under CA law?
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Well according to the article the contract they signed was for seven years 4 months.

So if the industry standard is 7 years, is 7 years 4 months longer than the standard?

It seems to me that the industry standard is indeed 7 years because that is the max under CA law?
That's interesting. I guess they have a case then.

7 years 4 months is a really odd term for a contract. I wonder if that was because the show premiered as a mid-season replacement.
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That's interesting. I guess they have a case then.

7 years 4 months is a really odd term for a contract. I wonder if that was because the show premiered as a mid-season replacement.
Perhaps this is how there agents set them up, so to leave open the window for the suing.

Concerning the actors being relatively unknown, I will say that while Julie Bowen and Sofia Vergara were known to me, I would not put them in the same category as Ed O'Neil, who is much more known to TV audiences as Ed Bundy.

Note that the producers felt the same as he got paid more than his ensemble partners.
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