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Old 06-04-2012, 10:00 AM   #1
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Longmire - Pilot

I am surprised that someone hasn't started a thread on this show. I love westerns, including modern westerns. The show was introductory so we saw a lot of Longmire feeling sorry for himself but by the end he was more enthusiastic about running against his more modern but less experienced deputy.

The characters are good, especially the bartender at the Red Pony. I think I am going to learn a lot about relations between the larger community and the people who live in the reservation.

I liked the Pilot but I hope the next episodes are better.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:32 AM   #2
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I loved it, this episode introduced us to the main characters so now it can move on more to the story's...
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:52 AM   #3
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Thought it was OK. As I said in the other thread, it was very predictable. Hope future episodes are more creative.

Good to see Lou Diamond Phillips again.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:53 PM   #4
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Darn it! I missed recording this! Off to see if I can still get it!
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:31 PM   #5
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I enjoyed this. I hope Longmire kicks his deputy's butt in the election.

Nice to see Katee Sackhoff get some more series work. She was ready to go all Starbuck on those tribal cops. Whee!

I kept thinking that was Grant Show as the deputy, but it's Bailey Chase. I had to go look him up in IMDB before I remembered where I saw him last -- in Saving Grace on TNT.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:55 PM   #6
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Darn it! I missed recording this! Off to see if I can still get it!
It's on eight times in the next five days....

6/5/12
10:01 PM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/6/12
02:02 AM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/7/12
10:01 PM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/8/12
02:02 AM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/8/12
01:00 PM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/9/12
04:00 PM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/10/12
07:00 AM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/10/12
11:00 AM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/10/12
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:58 PM   #7
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I saw the pilot episode. I know a CA deputy sheriff who works in an area with Indian reservations and their relationship is nothing like the ones between the reservation cops and the deputy sheriffs. In fact, he often takes his meal break at their casino (not to gamble, but at their restaurant). Some reservation police departments have <gasp> WHITE police officers too.

I don't know about the laws for WY, but I know that just because the reservation is there does not mean the local and state cops don't have jurisdiction, at least as far as the highways are concerned. I know that WA state route 20 which runs through an Indian reservation on its way to Anacortes and Whidbey Island is heavily patrolled by the Washington State Police. There are many similar examples in CA and I know the CHP still patrols those routes.

Despite this, I still liked the pilot. I've got a season pass set up.
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:24 PM   #8
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I recorded but havent watched yet. Looks somewhat promising.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:25 PM   #9
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Just watched it. Reminds me of Justified. I'll be sticking with this series.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:20 PM   #10
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I saw the pilot episode. I know a CA deputy sheriff who works in an area with Indian reservations and their relationship is nothing like the ones between the reservation cops and the deputy sheriffs. In fact, he often takes his meal break at their casino (not to gamble, but at their restaurant). Some reservation police departments have <gasp> WHITE police officers too.

I don't know about the laws for WY, but I know that just because the reservation is there does not mean the local and state cops don't have jurisdiction, at least as far as the highways are concerned. I know that WA state route 20 which runs through an Indian reservation on its way to Anacortes and Whidbey Island is heavily patrolled by the Washington State Police. There are many similar examples in CA and I know the CHP still patrols those routes.

Despite this, I still liked the pilot. I've got a season pass set up.
State Police and State Highway Patrols have different jurisdictions than say County Sheriffs Officers or City Police, but you likely know that. What you may not know is tribal laws on the reservations can be very different than our laws. It's not like just another jurisdiction, it's a "Nation" in and of itself.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:05 AM   #11
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State Police and State Highway Patrols have different jurisdictions than say County Sheriffs Officers or City Police, but you likely know that. What you may not know is tribal laws on the reservations can be very different than our laws. It's not like just another jurisdiction, it's a "Nation" in and of itself.
I am aware that tribal laws are often different from the laws outside the reservation. I am also aware that Tribal Police do NOT have jurisdiction over non-Indians, even within the reservation (Oliphant v. Suquamish Indian Tribe, 1978). A non-Indian committing a crime within the reservation has to be turned over to the Federal government, or in some states (CA being one of them) to the local police/sheriff or state police.

Tribal Sovereignty is not as clear cut as that of say our neighbors Mexico and Canada. The courts have gone back and forth on it. About a decade or so ago, this became an issue in CA when many tribes wanted to institute gambling on their lands. It ultimately went before a voter referendum.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:10 AM   #12
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I was a little bored, hope it improves. That entire scene when Longmire takes the Sharp and proves it won't fire is a bit crazy. Even if you are 110% (thanks Lou Ferrigno) sure that the rifle won't fire you still don't insert a live round and pull the trigger while in the police station.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:36 AM   #13
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I liked it. Sort of a Justified Lite. I did keep thinking Starbuck when Katee Sackhoff was onscreen.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:28 PM   #14
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I enjoyed the first episode. I will stick with it. I am sure it will get better now that the setup is out of the way.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:29 PM   #15
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I enjoyed it. Seemed a little dry in some places but it's a pilot so I expect it to find its legs soon.
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:40 PM   #16
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It's on eight times in the next five days....

6/5/12
10:01 PM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/6/12
02:02 AM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/7/12
10:01 PM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/8/12
02:02 AM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/8/12
01:00 PM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/9/12
04:00 PM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/10/12
07:00 AM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/10/12
11:00 AM "Pilot" A widowed Wyoming sheriff works to overcome the pain of his wife's death by dedicating himself to his job. (Repeat) 747 AETVHD
6/10/12
Haha, ya! I'm catching an HD version of it tomorrow night at 10pm Central.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:22 PM   #17
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I watched a reality series titled "Navaho Cops" and there was a white cop who had become more or less part of the tribe. He had been married to a Navaho woman and even though divorced he was welcome. He knew the culture and the language. The relations between the cops and white people whether just tourists or other cops seemed to be very professional.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:45 PM   #18
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It was said that Starbuck's character had only been there 6 months. No real backstory on why she left Philadelphia but I thought it a little weird she was so loyal to the sheriff. Like when he was punched she jumped on the native american.

When he told her that Grant (I think that was his name) was running for sheriff she said she wanted to be there when he was confronted.

I was expecting her to be his daughter that moved home after the wife/mother died. But it doesn't look like that's the case.

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Old 06-06-2012, 08:51 AM   #19
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Early in the show Longmire asked a deputy to get a list of registered rifles in the area. Do they really require long guns to be registered in Wyoming?
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Early in the show Longmire asked a deputy to get a list of registered rifles in the area. Do they really require long guns to be registered in Wyoming?
Likely, I live 2 states below Wyoming (NM) the Brady Bill (and other legislation) changed things considerably for all firearms purchases, I bought a rifle last month and had to register... but that is only for sales from dealers, not private individuals so chances of one actually showing up in a "list", not that great imho.
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It was said that Starbuck's character had only been there 6 months. No real backstory on why she left Philadelphia but I thought it a little weird she was so loyal to the sheriff.
I work with a cop who almost left to work for a police agency in that part of the country. In fact he had already been given a job offer, but in the end he turned it down.

When you work law enforcement in the big city it is easy to become jaded due to the amount of BS you have to deal with on a daily basis. I'll admit, if it weren't for the relatively crappy pay, and the fact that I'm closer to retirement than I am to the beginning of my career, I wouldn't mind working in a similar area like that.
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handsome men in cowboy boots will always get my vote...shew!
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The partner may have jumped the Indian cop out of loyalty to the office of the sheriff rather than to Longmire.
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Anybody else find it jarring to see Longmire brandishing a modern semi-automatic pistol (Glock?) instead of a six-shooter?
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Anybody else find it jarring to see Longmire brandishing a modern semi-automatic pistol (Glock?) instead of a six-shooter?
Why?
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Everything else about him is so cowboy (including his lever action rifle), and that seemed very urban.
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There aren't too many cops left still carrying six shooters, even in the Western US. A friend of mine who is a deputy in a rural part of California (and whose "beat" looks just like that in this show) not only carries a Glock, but he also carries an AR-15, and he uses an iPhone for work purposes too.

He doesn't wear a cowboy hat though.
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I knew it was not a western before I even saw his truck.
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It was said that Starbuck's character had only been there 6 months. No real backstory on why she left Philadelphia but I thought it a little weird she was so loyal to the sheriff. (...)
I was expecting her to be his daughter that moved home after the wife/mother died. But it doesn't look like that's the case.
The TV series is based on a series of books and I imagine that Vic's backstory (as well as Longmire's relationship with his daughter) will be explored more fully as the season progresses.

To me, she's perfect casting for the role...LDP, not so much. I somehow had the impression that Henry Standing Bear was a much bigger man...
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