Reality shows that are fake...spinoff thread

[Cearbhaill]

Originally Posted by moetown

It came out last week.

Actually I remember discussing the House Hunters being fake topic in this very forum several years ago.

It's all fake, people.
We are fed what we like to eat.

I view anything on my teevee as a product made to order- even the news.
Entertainment shows are purely that no matter what genre they are listed as falling under or what name they are given.
IMO everything is manipulated whether on the front end via scripting or the back end by the edit monkeys.
Nothing is true except that making money selling commercial air time trumps everything else.

Believe nothing. [/grassy knoll]

[Boston Fan]

Originally Posted by Barmat

House Hunters
House Hunters International

Producers hire couple that recently purchased a house. Then show them looking at three houses one of them being the one they bought. Then couple decides what house they like best. Surprise it's the one they already bought.

Originally Posted by moetown

It came out last week.

Minor point, but the article doesn't mention HHI at all. We have long assumed it is staged, but still like HHI because we enjoy seeing the different international locations.

We assume most of these real estate type shows are scripted based on our daughter's participation in "My First Place". They did some initial filming of her to show to the producers, but she ultimately wasn't selected because the the closing date of the house she was buying couldn't be finalized yet (it was a short sale).

They only come in for a day or two of filming, so you pretty much need to have already purchased (closing date set) your home to be selected before they will invite you to do the show. The idea was that she would then look at a few of the other places she had considered to kind of reenact the process. If they were no longer available they would just pick some random homes.

[sean67854]

How fake are those shows where they build cars or motorcycles or whatever? I caught the last few episodes of Dream Machines and it looked pretty cool. Some of the setups, like when the get phone calls out of the blue seem pretty staged, but how much of the shop interaction is scripted?

[MikeMar]

Originally Posted by Cearbhaill

It's all fake, people.
We are fed what we like to eat.

I view anything on my teevee as a product made to order- even the news.
Entertainment shows are purely that no matter what genre they are listed as falling under or what name they are given.
IMO everything is manipulated whether on the front end via scripting or the back end by the edit monkeys.
Nothing is true except that making money selling commercial air time trumps everything else.

Believe nothing. [/grassy knoll]

I assume and have been assuming since Survivor that it's anywhere from 50% to 100% fake.

[Snappa77]

Big Brother.

(That producer Allison something killed the show with her nonstop micro managing just about EVERYTHING.)

[LoadStar]

Deadliest Catch. It's all done on a soundstage and with "green screen." The pots are all CGI, and the crab are rendered by Pixar.

[tivoboyjr]

Originally Posted by LoadStar

the crab are rendered by Pixar

So that explains why they can talk, and and also the occasional song and dance routines. I thought that was odd, but then I'm no marine biologist.

[mwhip]

Originally Posted by Snappa77

Big Brother.

(That producer Allison something killed the show with her nonstop micro managing just about EVERYTHING.)

I agree. Other countries are better they put in people who can play the game not just ones who look good laying out by the pool.

[Graymalkin]

They're ALL fake.

[Satchel]

Originally Posted by sean67854

How fake are those shows where they build cars or motorcycles or whatever? I caught the last few episodes of Dream Machines and it looked pretty cool. Some of the setups, like when the get phone calls out of the blue seem pretty staged, but how much of the shop interaction is scripted?

obviously the cars or bikes are getting built, but what's fake is the "deadline" that makes everyone stress out and have to scream at each other.

That's the formula that American Chopper pioneered.

[Einselen]

Originally Posted by mwhip

I think even to a degree things like Duck Dynasty are staged. Like the producers put people into a situation to see the dynamics happen. It's like throwing a feral cat in with a pit bull something is going to happen.

To a degree? Most things in Duck Dynasty are staged or highly influenced by the producers either that or Willie has some amazing timing to come in and stop the stupidity.

[MarkofT]

Originally Posted by Unbeliever

I'm fairly confident that many of the "transactions" are borrowed items from other auction houses with actors to play the part, or pre-bought items.

Plenty of people have caught them out providing proof of the people on screen either never owned them to begin with, or were actors with IMDB pages.

Google the term "Pawn Stars Scripted"

--Carlos V.

I know a couple of early seasons had some seeded buddies that wanted to be on TV. And it's obvious that unless you walk in with something fairly unique, you won't be getting on TV at all. You never see someone come in with a TV or a toolbox or a stack of DVDs.

I doubt there is any scripting beyond seeking out items to feature, whether it's buddies that want to be on TV or someone really looking to sell an item.

Originally Posted by Einselen

To a degree? Most things in Duck Dynasty are staged or highly influenced by the producers either that or Willie has some amazing timing to come in and stop the stupidity.

Willie is the cause of at least half of the stupidity. Much of the bits with Miss Kay seems like they just setup a couple cameras, put the girls in the kitchen and film away. Probably similar for the guys but they have more places to setup. There are a few obvious scripted events, but that's more from a safety, one time only shot so we better get the cameras in the right spots thing.

[mattack]

I really want to say [citation needed] for all of these... Not that I don't believe they're 100% completely real...

[Unbeliever]

Originally Posted by MarkofT

I doubt there is any scripting beyond seeking out items to feature, whether it's buddies that want to be on TV or someone really looking to sell an item.

So no scripting, even when Rick Dale's brother Ron brings in a Coca Cola machine, all beat up, then Harrison brings it to Rick Dale for restoration with a "Never seen that before comment."

When the machine comes back "restored" it's not the same machine. Different window size, different coin mechanism, square corners when the machine used to have rounded corners, etc.

Or how they were able to get all sorts of Hatfield and McCoy items for the debut week for History's H&M series?

Or the "Upcoming on Pawn Stars" clips where the comments in the clip flat out contradict what happens in the episode?

Or the whole "happy vibe" routine with the dreamcatcher/flax bow? The flax bow that was a completely different bow with different color string when the "owner" returned to reclaim it?

Again, I'm not so naive to think that any of the "transactions" are real, but give them a pass as they're trying to set up the transactions to teach some history to the viewers.

--Carlos V.

[LoadStar]

Originally Posted by Unbeliever

So no scripting, even when Rick Dale's brother Ron brings in a Coca Cola machine, all beat up, then Harrison brings it to Rick Dale for restoration with a "Never seen that before comment."

When the machine comes back "restored" it's not the same machine. Different window size, different coin mechanism, square corners when the machine used to have rounded corners, etc.

Or how they were able to get all sorts of Hatfield and McCoy items for the debut week for History's H&M series?

Or the "Upcoming on Pawn Stars" clips where the comments in the clip flat out contradict what happens in the episode?

Or the whole "happy vibe" routine with the dreamcatcher/flax bow? The flax bow that was a completely different bow with different color string when the "owner" returned to reclaim it?

Again, I'm not so naive to think that any of the "transactions" are real, but give them a pass as they're trying to set up the transactions to teach some history to the viewers.

--Carlos V.

Also, everything you see on the show is filmed specifically for the show when it is closed. You can tell, because occasionally, they'll show a shot of a pretty busy store, but then they'll immediately cut to a person supposedly wandering in to sell/pawn something, and the store is almost completely vacant.

The "stars" of the show aren't even in the store much if at all when it is open. Plus, the store is much too crowded with fans of the show browsing and buying all sorts of show memorabilia. (I understand a huge portion of the store is now dedicated to selling show memorabilia.)

[RonDawg]

Originally Posted by Barmat

House Hunters
House Hunters International

Producers hire couple that recently purchased a house. Then show them looking at three houses one of them being the one they bought. Then couple decides what house they like best. Surprise it's the one they already bought.

I always wondered what would happen if someone on this show had already bought a house, and the producers happened to find one that the new homeowners liked even better, but for whatever reason was not available when they were first looking?

Or do the producers only find ones that they would automatically reject, or perhaps already have as part of their own property search?

[Steveknj]

Originally Posted by Graymalkin

They're ALL fake.

Thunder stolen.

I sometimes think the genre should be named "Not" Reality show.

[sieglinde]

There are some fake ones that I watched anyway. There was one on CMT where they had a few C class celebrities running a bed and breakfast in a southern town. It was cute.

[dthmj]

I don't trust anything on Duck Dynasty now. The whole winery thing was fake. They never bought a winery. The show rented an existing (and successful and running) winery where they filmed the whole thing.

That's not even a manufactured situation - that's just pure fiction.

[xuxa]

Originally Posted by moetown

It came out last week.

I can also verfiy, a friend of mine was on HHI, same story.

Reality TV if it wasn't faked or heavily produced would be very boring. The less you fake it gets much more expensive to produce. Look at Deadliest Catch, produced but not heavily faked and they shoot 4 to five ships for months with multiple cameras pretty much 24/7 with some to get something they can make a story out of for the season. I imagine it is the one of the most costly show on cable. Survivor heavily depends on exotic locations and competitions and gets away with only having to shot for 40 days or so but on location. Without the location you have Big Brother where they need 3 months to make something viable.

The low budget shows are 'required' to be faked because there is no budget (I imagine trutv isn't paying that much) to cover the job, event etc to get a good story or not be utterly boring.

[xuxa]

Originally Posted by dthmj

I don't trust anything on Duck Dynasty now. The whole winery thing was fake. They never bought a winery. The show rented an existing (and successful and running) winery where they filmed the whole thing.

That's not even a manufactured situation - that's just pure fiction.

Willie before the beard and realizing that he could make a character for a tv show

[pmyers]

They've actually showed that picture or another one of him without the beard, on the show.

[Big Deficit]

Originally Posted by LoadStar

Deadliest Catch. It's all done on a soundstage and with "green screen." The pots are all CGI, and the crab are rendered by Pixar.

AND they use the same sound stage that the fake moon landings were filmed on!

I know this because my mothers mothers aunts cousins brothers dogs chew toy told me so.

[dtivouser]

King of Cars? Oh please don't tell me Chopper wasn't legit...

[Squeak]

Originally Posted by RonDawg

I always wondered what would happen if someone on this show had already bought a house, and the producers happened to find one that the new homeowners liked even better, but for whatever reason was not available when they were first looking?

Or do the producers only find ones that they would automatically reject, or perhaps already have as part of their own property search?

You can only be on HH (or Property Brothers) if you have a signed contract for a house.

They know exactly what house they are going to "buy", and 2 other houses are added into the mix.

[mwhip]

Originally Posted by dtivouser

King of Cars? Oh please don't tell me Chopper wasn't legit...

Please tell me that guy went out of busineess

[Azlen]

I read somewhere that there was a lot of fakery in Iron Chef. The mystery ingredient wasn't such a mystery. The actual food the judges ate wasn't necessarily cooked by the chefs in that hour time period and that much of it was actually done by the sous chefs.

Found the article
http://www.realityblurred.com/realit...enes-iron-chef

[pmyers]

Originally Posted by Azlen

I read somewhere that there was a lot of fakery in Iron Chef. The mystery ingredient wasn't such a mystery. The actual food the judges ate wasn't necessarily cooked by the chefs in that hour time period and that much of it was actually done by the sous chefs.

Found the article
http://www.realityblurred.com/realit...enes-iron-chef

I never assumed the ingredient was an absolute mystery. I always assumed that they gave the chefs a list of a couple of possible ingredients so they could come up with a "menu". That's just logistics

I also always assumed they had to go back and make some of the food because the one plate they make is not enough to feed all the judges.

[RonDawg]

Originally Posted by Squeak

You can only be on HH (or Property Brothers) if you have a signed contract for a house.

They know exactly what house they are going to "buy", and 2 other houses are added into the mix.

I realize that. But I've always wondered if there was a situation where they've already bought the house, but the two "alternatives" ended up being a lot better but for some reason they never were shown them before (such as they were in escrow but which fell through after the subjects had already committed to another house).

For example, a buyer would really like a house on a cul-de-sac, but because none were in his/her price range, the buyer had to settle for one on a busy street. Then, after committing to buying the house and to being on HH, one of the alternative houses is on a cul-de-sac, and is within their price/size/commuting distance/neighborhood/etc. criteria.

Frankly, that would suck to know that I could have gotten a house I liked better if I had waited just a bit longer.

[Cearbhaill]

Originally Posted by RonDawg

Frankly, that would suck to know that I could have gotten a house I liked better if I had waited just a bit longer.

That is the one enormous fear every home buyer has the day they sign a contract.
It is by no means limited to those buying a home and appearing on HH's.