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Old 06-11-2012, 11:10 PM   #31
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What was burying them about? We've seen people turned before haven't we? I don't recall any burying. If it was about daylight, Sookie's house would still have the super cellar.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:25 PM   #32
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Jessica was buried with bill.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:30 PM   #33
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They do seem pretty consistent that TB vampires need to be buried with their maker in order for it to take.

I guess maybe you're right about Pam trying to kill Sookie being what she's sorry for. That would work a lot better given Pam's demeanor. I cannot keep all the action straight--maybe I'll save the last couple of episodes of this season to watch just before next season starts. I do wonder how Russell got out then... hm...
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:14 AM   #34
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I was pissed off that Tara was only just merely dead and not really most sincerely dead. But then I realized that as a vamp, she might not be the huge bunt that she's been for the whole series.
Whoa! I don't get the extreme "Tara hate". There is no regular on TB that gets me that riled up.

She was comic relief in two Seasons:
S1 - loyal (to a fault) friend of Sookie, panting after skanky Jason but "not boyfriend material" to Sam, bantering with cousin La La and her crazy mom.
S3 - kidnapped by a psycho-vamp and kicking Bill off of that truck into the sun.

(She was "meh" in most of S2 & S3 though.)
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:53 AM   #35
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I don't remember why the Authority wants to kill Bill (ha ha) and Eric. Can someone remind me?

also, I liked this line "I'm a gay Vampire-American"
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:27 AM   #36
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Glad I watched the last episode of last season immediately before this episode. I had forgotten most of what had transpired.

Sadly, this show doesn't glamour me as it once did.

Jessica, however, is a stand-out character. And I always liked Pam.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:17 PM   #37
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I don't remember why the Authority wants to kill Bill (ha ha) and Eric. Can someone remind me?
Yes! Why does the Authority want to kill Bill and Eric. I thought Bill was a pretty good king, certainly better than the provious one (which was Russell, wasn't it?). And although Eric wasn't a very good sheriff, that shouldn't be enough reason to get the "True Death."

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Old 06-12-2012, 01:48 PM   #38
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Yes! Why does the Authority want to kill Bill and Eric. I thought Bill was a pretty good king, certainly better than the provious one (which was Russell, wasn't it?). And although Eric wasn't a very good sheriff, that shouldn't be enough reason to get the "True Death."

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I think Russell was the king of another state. The queen of Louisiana was that girl who was dealing in vampire blood on the side (Eric worked for her on that). Bill took over for her.

But please, someone remind us why bill and Eric are in trouble!
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:17 PM   #39
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I don't think the Authority necessarily wants to kill Eric and Bill. There were two times in this episode when it would have been trivial to kill them, but instead they were captured both times.

That said, I don't know why the Authority wants them in captivity so badly.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:30 PM   #40
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I don't think the Authority necessarily wants to kill Eric and Bill. There were two times in this episode when it would have been trivial to kill them, but instead they were captured both times.

That said, I don't know why the Authority wants them in captivity so badly.
That PR vampire in charge told Bill that she was to give him true death. So Bill killed her (that is who Eric was cleaning). It seems the Authority wants it to be long and painful, not just a quick death.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:31 PM   #41
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Eric's sister was supposed to have them killed, wasn't she? How else could she get away with letting them disappear?
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:32 PM   #42
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Eric's sister was supposed to have them killed, wasn't she? How else could she get away with letting them disappear?
Yes. She even told her bosses over the phone that both were dead.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:36 PM   #43
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Didn't Bill and Eric go against the "Authority's" wishes by going after the witch?
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:52 PM   #44
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Didn't Bill and Eric go against the "Authority's" wishes by going after the witch?
So what? The witch was killed, the general populace knew nothing about the battle. If that's the only issue, a successful result like that hardly seems to warrant regicide...
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So what? The witch was killed, the general populace knew nothing about the battle. If that's the only issue, a successful result like that hardly seems to warrant regicide...
LOL...regicide? you forgot Sherifcide!
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:20 PM   #46
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I'd never seen the show before.

I didn't hate it, but I'm confused. Is it supposed to be goofy?
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:26 PM   #47
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I'd never seen the show before.

I didn't hate it, but I'm confused. Is it supposed to be goofy?
Yes it is.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:32 PM   #48
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Yes it is.
That helps a lot.
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That helps a lot.
Yeah if you watch the show thinking it is taking its self seriously as a vampire drama then you will be dissapointed.

True Blood is to Dracula as Alf is to Alien.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:14 PM   #50
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I agree Pam is the best her lines about "wearing a wal-mart sweater" and "dirt my bra" were perfectly delivered.
Pam is th Sue Sylvester of Bon Temps

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I thought the "henchmen" last episode were human, while this episode they were vampires.
You are thinking of Bill's security force. They were human and they worked for him. These vampires are employees of The Authority.

I guess they gave up on the part about Jessica's hymen growing back after every time she has sex, making sex painful every time.

The title of this episode is Turn! Turn! Turn!
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:08 PM   #51
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LOL...regicide? you forgot Sherifcide!
No, I could imagine them killing an area Sheriff just to send the message that people can't ignore the Authority's...um...authority, but it just seems strange for them to be willing to kill a king/queen for the same reason.
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I think Russell was the king of another state. The queen of Louisiana was that girl who was dealing in vampire blood on the side (Eric worked for her on that). Bill took over for her.
Yes, you're right!

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That PR vampire in charge told Bill that she was to give him true death. So Bill killed her (that is who Eric was cleaning). It seems the Authority wants it to be long and painful, not just a quick death.
Yes, she was very specific that she was ordered by the Authority to administer the True Death to both Bill and Eric. She wasn't too clear though as to why she didn't do it.

Eric's "sister" was ordered to bring them to the Authority so I don't think she was to give them the True Death, but certainly they both are on the SUPER S**T-LIST of the Authority. But again, WHY?

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You are thinking of Bill's security force.
No, I was thinking of the three Authority henchmen that Nan brought with her, which Eric beheaded just before Bill staked Nan. They were clearly human, since they did not "burst" like vampires when they died.

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Yes, she was very specific that she was ordered by the Authority to administer the True Death to both Bill and Eric. She wasn't too clear though as to why she didn't do it.
I thought she was fairly clear. She thought the Authority would kill her next, and besides, she wanted in on some fairy action.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:48 PM   #55
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I really didn't like this episode. They left way too many questions at the end of last season and then added even more plot lines this episode. It just seemed like way too much and nothing seemed to be connected. It was like watching 5 different shows at the same time.
The questions they left at the end of last season were the cliffhangers, which were all resumed a minute later, so those stories are all ongoing...

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I fell on the floor laughing when she said the Wal-mart line, which was a Wal-mart sweat suit, I believe. At first I didn't like the Pam character, but now I agree with some other comments and she is one of my favorites!
Best Pam line ever was when she flies into the house, looks at the total carnage in the kitchen and says "color me impressed, you guys know how to party..." hilarious. Her delivery was spot-on.

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I liked the episode quite a bit even though there are multiple plot lines. I'm usually not into vampire stories but this show has been and still is one of my favorites. The only season that I wasn't too crazy about (but still liked) was the one with Ensign Ro, I mean Michelle Forbes.
I'm the same way--I don't like vampire stories (Buffy excluded) and I don't like the corny romance angle of the show, but there enough redeeming qualities that I stick with it...

As for the amount of story lines, that's actually what I like about it--everything is separate in the first couple of episodes and as the season goes on all the stories start to blend more and more and then usually by the last couple everything is tied in--it's one of my favorite things about the show. As a writer I love that aspect, this is one of the most heavily serialized shows out there. The first three seasons took place over less than a month.

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Yes, she was very specific that she was ordered by the Authority to administer the True Death to both Bill and Eric. She wasn't too clear though as to why she didn't do it.
I just watched the episode before the premiere (which is good because I didn't remember any of it)... Nan says in her last scene that she was fired from the Authority and her last duty was supposed to be to kill them both. She doesn't because she knows she'd be next, so instead tells them there is a mutiny brewing and tries to get them on board since they're all dead anyway. She uses her knowledge of Sookie's powers to entice them but it backfires and they kill her, and the show loses one of it's best comedic resources.

As for why the authority wants to Kill Bill, I'm pretty sure it's because of the Marnie situation getting so out of control... he let a necromancer nearly bring down the entire species and it happened on his watch. I don't remember enough about last season though, if something specific happened. But Nan did mention in that scene that they were F'ed for letting the witch situation get so bad.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:53 PM   #56
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And can someone remind me: Why didn't Bill/Eric kill Russell?
Exactly... I'm usually pretty content with the direction things go in from a writing standpoint but that was easily the dumbest move they made to date. Not killing Russell was so dumbfoundingly stupid that it kills any credibility this upcoming story line has...

There was no reason for them to not kill him other than the fact that the writers wanted to bring him back later, that's really it. It's just poor writing. I hope they don't spend a ton of time on it this season because to me, anything to do with it doesn't have any resonance... WORST CASE scenario for him would be a hundred years, maybe 200 TOPS, and then he'd get out and have 200 years of laser-focused rage aimed right at you. Dumb.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:04 PM   #57
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I guess they gave up on the part about Jessica's hymen growing back after every time she has sex, making sex painful every time.
I'm sure it still happens. She's just gotten over it. Vamps like pain.

The main drama over that was when it first happened, not so much for the inconvenience factor, as the additional reminder of her being "different". Like most things for young girls that ultimately turn out to be trivial, at first they seem like the ned of the world.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:44 AM   #58
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This was one of the least enjoyable episodes for me, only redeemed by Jessica. She got an out loud "Holy Schitt" from me which balanced Mrs. S.'s droolfest whenever Eric is on the screen. Smokin!

Pam had great lines too, but she looks a mess, even when not dressed in Walmart sweats.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:27 AM   #59
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I was really lost during this episode as I remembered nothing that happened last season. I had to watch the first episode off HBO GO and it didn't have the "previously on" thing.

I thought the episode was good enough. I haven't loved this show since the first season or two, but it is better than a lot of stuff on TV.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:39 AM   #60
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Yeah, my TiVo recorded S04E10 for me and then I watched S04E11 OnDemand and strangely enough, S04E12 was only available in SD OnDemand (but I watched it that way anyway).

I think I would have been a bit lost without rewatching that stuff...
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