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Old 05-30-2012, 08:16 PM   #91
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I really need to have JJ Abrams (or the head writer) to come out and state "I have an explanation and an ending planned!" before I give it more than a couple of episodes.
They said that about Lost. Also, the Battlestar Galactica remake.

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See S.M. Stirling's Emberverse novels, which operate on a near-identical pretense: in that series of books, subtle changes to the fundamental relations of physics resulted in electricity, guns, explosives, internal combustion engines, steam power, and a raft of other things either not working, or not being as effective.
I'm skeptical that such a change would be compatible with human life.

But I'll probably watch this anyway.
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:42 PM   #92
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I'm just still bitter as hell over Jericho..
Loved that show initially, but they ruined it with the conspiracy garbage. Before that, it was awesome, and better the pretty much all post-apocalyptic shows/movies. As opposed to seeing how people live after society has crumbled, Jericho showed how people experience the actual crumbling of society and learn to deal with/recover from it.

This show looks semi interesting, but since it skips ahead 15 years, you don't get to experience all of that like you did with Jericho. Are there any other shows like Jericho in that respect? Falling Skies looks the closest (only 6 months later rather than several years), except that the focus is more on the aliens than the rebuilding.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:07 PM   #93
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I really need to have JJ Abrams (or the head writer) to come out and state "I have an explanation and an ending planned!" before I give it more than a couple of episodes.
They said that about Lost. Also, the Battlestar Galactica remake.
And they were eventually proven right.
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And they were eventually proven right.
No, I meant, the creators of those shows claimed to have the endings, etc. planned. And then... well, you know.
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No, I meant, the creators of those shows claimed to have the endings, etc. planned. And then... well, you know.
Ah. Yes.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:39 AM   #96
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Did the BG people ever say that they had a plan?

They said the Cylons had a plan, but I don't recall them ever saying THEY had a plan, and in fact I have vague memories of Ronald Moore lavishing contempt on the notion that he SHOULD have a plan.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:13 AM   #97
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Did the BG people ever say that they had a plan?

They said the Cylons had a plan, but I don't recall them ever saying THEY had a plan, and in fact I have vague memories of Ronald Moore lavishing contempt on the notion that he SHOULD have a plan.
Nah, Moore just continually insulted his audience on his podcast, all while telling them what whiskey he was drinking. Oh yes, and clinking his ice in the glass whenever possible.

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Old 05-31-2012, 04:08 PM   #98
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Loved that show initially, but they ruined it with the conspiracy garbage. Before that, it was awesome, and better the pretty much all post-apocalyptic shows/movies. As opposed to seeing how people live after society has crumbled, Jericho showed how people experience the actual crumbling of society and learn to deal with/recover from it.

This show looks semi interesting, but since it skips ahead 15 years, you don't get to experience all of that like you did with Jericho. Are there any other shows like Jericho in that respect? Falling Skies looks the closest (only 6 months later rather than several years), except that the focus is more on the aliens than the rebuilding.
The Walking Dead is "after the fall" too.

It's much cheaper to film a lightly populated wasteland than a the destruction and chaos of destroying world civilization. IIRC, the Falling Skies backstory was explained with children's drawings. (rather clever actually) It didn't matter that it was only six months. Everyone was gone and the initial chaos was over. Also IIRC, Jericho managed by being a remote small town -- mushroom clouds in the distance.

That said, Jericho did have the "people adjusting to the change" part, which is fun. On The Walking Dead, they're still adjusting, arguably learning things they should know by now.

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Old 05-31-2012, 05:55 PM   #99
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That said, Jericho did have the "people adjusting to the change" part, which is fun.
Not quite so fun for the people doing the adjusting, I would imagine.
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I'm scared that I won't be able to suspend disbelief enough. I mean, every form of electricity is gone...what about human internal brain circuitry? What about dynamos? The energy created there has to go somewhere.
And one would presume that if combustion is possible a car wouldn't quit until after it was shut off for the first time after the event. Also, what about cars and machinery, like generators, that don't rely on electrical components (transitors, etc) to operate.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:06 PM   #101
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And one would presume that if combustion is possible a car wouldn't quit until after it was shut off for the first time after the event. Also, what about cars and machinery, like generators, that don't rely on electrical components (transitors, etc) to operate.
Wouldn't take a lot of change in thermophysical properties before a basic IC engine would stop running. Go put some diesel in your fuel tank and let me know how long it runs.
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Wouldn't take a lot of change in thermophysical properties before a basic IC engine would stop running. Go put some diesel in your fuel tank and let me know how long it runs.
..or a magnet spinning around a copper coil using water to move the magnet? Based on what I saw the cause is going to be something more fantasy than sciencey in nature.

I can buy something disrupting electrical equipment much like an EMP would. Maybe even some of that equipment that uses IC to operate might use electrical components to regulate the motor or control surfaces(Cars and planes), but like another pointed out, we know how to generate electricity.

It would take a total breakdown of government to prevent a rudimentary recovery within a couple of years. Perhaps military assets we shielded enough that the governments of the world smashed each other leaving only the general populace to carry on.

I'll prolly watch the first few eps just for grins and chuckles. Couldn't be any worse than some of the disaster movies the wife makes me watch with her.
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:27 PM   #103
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That said, Jericho did have the "people adjusting to the change" part, which is fun. On The Walking Dead, they're still adjusting, arguably learning things they should know by now.
It's only been about a month or so for the TWD folks since the apocalypse took place.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:47 PM   #104
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Nah, Moore just continually insulted his audience on his podcast, all while telling them what whiskey he was drinking. Oh yes, and clinking his ice in the glass whenever possible.

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It's only been about a month or so for the TWD folks since the apocalypse took place.
A month since Grimes found the group or since the collapse? I was thinking maybe Lori held out a while before letting Shane jump her.
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A month since Grimes found the group or since the collapse? I was thinking maybe Lori held out a while before letting Shane jump her.
I think it's three months or so since Rick got shot, and about three weeks since he woke up. I don't know when exactly the apocalypse happened in between.
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:53 AM   #107
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I think it's three months or so since Rick got shot, and about three weeks since he woke up. I don't know when exactly the apocalypse happened in between.
I don't think there's any way that Rick could have been in a coma for more than 30 days or so and still be able to walk without assistance due to the muscle atrophy that would have taken place (although I am admittedly far from an expert on the subject). And he probably couldn't have survived more than a few days without food/water, so assuming that he could have had an IV that lasted for a day or two before it ran out, it can't have been more than a week between when the hospital was overrun/the last stand took place and when he woke up.

So all things considered, it seems like Rick had the misfortune of getting shot right before the outbreak started, that it spread like wildfire for about 2-3 weeks before going apocalyptic, and then the whole world went to hell in a week or so.

I think Rob is right that it's been about 3 weeks since Rick woke up. It's not clear, but I think that the events on Herschel's farm only lasted for about 2 weeks at most (which means that Max has mutant-like healing abilities), and it took him about a week to get to Atlanta, find the group, make the decision to leave for the CDC, and then leave the CDC before it blew up.

So all told, I think we're looking at 6-7 weeks in all.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:11 PM   #108
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This show looks semi interesting, but since it skips ahead 15 years, you don't get to experience all of that like you did with Jericho. Are there any other shows like Jericho in that respect? Falling Skies looks the closest (only 6 months later rather than several years), except that the focus is more on the aliens than the rebuilding.
How about Terry Nation's Survivors (the 1970s version, not the recent remake)? The first episode takes place while the "apocalypse" is starting to take full effect. I think the main difference is, all of the technology still exists, but they just have to find people who know how to fix/run it - assuming that any of them are still alive.
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So all things considered, it seems like Rick had the misfortune of getting shot right before the outbreak started, that it spread like wildfire for about 2-3 weeks before going apocalyptic, and then the whole world went to hell in a week or so.
Google Walking Dead timeline and you'll find several people who have independently come to the same conclusions from the information given in the show. Either Rick is a walking miracle or the writers of the show didn't do much research into what happens when people are in comas...
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Wow, I'd never heard of this show until I saw a VERY abbreviated trailer that was at the end of Miss USA. That short trailer made it look a lot more interesting than the longer one in the 1st post.
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And one would presume that if combustion is possible a car wouldn't quit until after it was shut off for the first time after the event. Also, what about cars and machinery, like generators, that don't rely on electrical components (transitors, etc) to operate.
You'd be very surprised about modern cars. Cars sold in the US since 1996 are required to have OBD II (http://www.obdii.com/connector.html). I'm sure we've had computer control of engines and timing since WELL before that.

If one had a much older car w/o any sort of computer controls, if there were an EMP, I'd imagine that it still could work afterward.

Also, there's CANbus (see http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...nside-your-car). While looking for the article I read recently, which turned out to be that Popular Mechanics article, I stumbled across http://johndayautomotivelectronics.com/?p=10064 and learned something new.

I do wonder what the explanation in the show is of why everything stopped working.

I'm not sure I'm so much into the drama that this longer trailer emphasized. I'll probably watch the 1st ep or two to see if it holds my interest.

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I do wonder what the explanation in the show is of why everything stopped working.
I'm sure the writers do too...
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I have not read Sterling's book but I suspect he offered no explanation.
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Wow, I'd never heard of this show until I saw a VERY abbreviated trailer that was at the end of Miss USA. That short trailer made it look a lot more interesting than the longer one in the 1st post.

You'd be very surprised about modern cars. Cars sold in the US since 1996 are required to have OBD II (http://www.obdii.com/connector.html). I'm sure we've had computer control of engines and timing since WELL before that.

If one had a much older car w/o any sort of computer controls, if there were an EMP, I'd imagine that it still could work afterward.

Also, there's CANbus (see http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...nside-your-car). While looking for the article I read recently, which turned out to be that Popular Mechanics article, I stumbled across http://johndayautomotivelectronics.com/?p=10064 and learned something new.

I do wonder what the explanation in the show is of why everything stopped working.

I'm not sure I'm so much into the drama that this longer trailer emphasized. I'll probably watch the 1st ep or two to see if it holds my interest.
Only one of my three cars have one of those. However I'm certain both have components that would be affected by an EMP. So in that one scene out of the hundreds of cars in line maybe one or two would have kept running? Nah. Not enough drama to show only a couple cars still going.
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Elizabeth Mitchell has replaced Andrea Roth.

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Elizabeth Mitchell has replaced Andrea Roth.

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Ooo, good move. We like her.
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Ooo, good move. We like her.
I enjoyed Andrea Roth on Ringer. Not sure who I would have preferred more.
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This upcoming series makes me think of a book I read a while back called "One Second After" The book was very unnerving.
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FYI, filming has started here in Wilmington, NC.
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