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Old 05-22-2012, 10:20 AM   #91
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Even still, you dont buzz a 7 year old. Piers wouldnt even have done that.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:29 AM   #92
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Shame on that kids mother. Don't blame Howard because your kid sucks and can't handle rejection. She put him in that position. If he isn't mature enough to handle it, don't let him compete.

Some parents really do need a clue...
I don't think anyone blamed him or was mad at him, not even the mom. The whole thing looked like ok I'm big bad Howard going to comfort this crying kid, he looked so uncomfortable doing it.
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Even still, you dont buzz a 7 year old. Piers wouldnt even have done that.
Sharon buzzed him too. The kid was horrible. I couldn't understand a word he was saying.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:47 AM   #94
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Sharon buzzed him too. The kid was horrible. I couldn't understand a word he was saying.
I dont think Sharon would have been the first to pull the trigger tho. She only did it because Howard broke the ice.

I do agree he was horrible but they should have let him finish.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:26 AM   #95
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I do agree he was horrible but they should have let him finish.
Howie didn't buzz him, so without three strikes, he's allowed to finish, from what I understand.

The act did end abruptly though. I don't know if it was a weird edit, or if the kid just bailed after the second buzz.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:43 AM   #96
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Even still, you dont buzz a 7 year old. Piers wouldnt even have done that.
Totally disagree. If you can't do that, then don't be a judge.
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Howie didn't buzz him, so without three strikes, he's allowed to finish, from what I understand.

The act did end abruptly though. I don't know if it was a weird edit, or if the kid just bailed after the second buzz.
Acts are not supposed to stop unless they get 3 Xs. If they don't get 3 Xs the judges vote. After the kid left the stage the producers came out and told them that they had to vote to make it official. Howard voted yes and both Sharon and Howie voted no saying they didn't want to put the kid through having to inevitably disappointed again.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:59 AM   #98
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Even still, you dont buzz a 7 year old. Piers wouldnt even have done that.
Piers HAS done that.




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"It makes no difference to me," muses Morgan. "That's not why I buzzed her. But at this stage of the game you have to be fair. That little girl is a talented gymnast, but, to me, it's not a semi-final act. It doesn't matter if Nick thinks I'm 'evil' -- it's just the truth."

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Old 05-22-2012, 12:02 PM   #99
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Piers HAS done that.

Wasnt that girl actually pretty good?

That was one of the things I was refering to where they put the guy that stands on his head in a chair while the other guy plays the piano through but buzz this girl.

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Old 05-22-2012, 12:11 PM   #100
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That 7-year old rapper was horrible. Buzz away.

Howard was right to buzz him, but then totally pussed out when the producers asked Howard what his official vote was and he caved and said "yes". Wtf?
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Shame on that kids mother. Don't blame Howard because your kid sucks and can't handle rejection. She put him in that position. If he isn't mature enough to handle it, don't let him compete.

Some parents really do need a clue...
This mother calls her son "Money" and teaches him lyrics like "commas and Zeros" blah blah blah, so we know what kind of values she is teaching him.
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:23 PM   #102
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Howard joining the show caused us to stop watching. I've been listening to Howard off and on for years. At his best he's really funny, so I'm a fan but not a die-hard by any means.

This, however, was one of the few shows that we watched as a family (with our 7-yr old twins) so adding Howard takes AGT out of the mix - at least for me it did. I decided to give it a test run and after the first 20 minutes or so, I knew there's no way I'd let the kids watch it. It's turned into a freak show with a lot of sex jokes. I have nothing against freak shows or sex jokes, but we'll have to find another show to watch with the kids.
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This mother calls her son "Money" and teaches him lyrics like "commas and Zeros" blah blah blah, so we know what kind of values she is teaching him.
He'll be an excellent CPA some day.
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Howard joining the show caused us to stop watching. I've been listening to Howard off and on for years. At his best he's really funny, so I'm a fan but not a die-hard by any means.

This, however, was one of the few shows that we watched as a family (with our 7-yr old twins) so adding Howard takes AGT out of the mix - at least for me it did. I decided to give it a test run and after the first 20 minutes or so, I knew there's no way I'd let the kids watch it. It's turned into a freak show with a lot of sex jokes. I have nothing against freak shows or sex jokes, but we'll have to find another show to watch with the kids.
we must be watching different shows.
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we must be watching different shows.
We are now, anyway.
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:30 PM   #106
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and to blame Howard for it becoming a "freak show" is unfair. He doesn't control what acts show up.
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:31 PM   #107
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we must be watching different shows.
Yeah the first two at least had barely any jokes aside from the guys small package and I'm not sure my 8 year old daughter is scarred for seeing it even though I don't think she really heard or cared what he said.
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Howard joining the show caused us to stop watching. I've been listening to Howard off and on for years. At his best he's really funny, so I'm a fan but not a die-hard by any means.

This, however, was one of the few shows that we watched as a family (with our 7-yr old twins) so adding Howard takes AGT out of the mix - at least for me it did. I decided to give it a test run and after the first 20 minutes or so, I knew there's no way I'd let the kids watch it. It's turned into a freak show with a lot of sex jokes. I have nothing against freak shows or sex jokes, but we'll have to find another show to watch with the kids.
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we must be watching different shows.
I agree with pmyers. I totally missed the sex joke. I remember sex jokes and innuendo when David Hasslehoff was a judge. Remember the guy that sang the song to Hoff? Didn't he even ask for his underwear or something? How did your family like that episode?

I am not a Howard fan but have been impressed with him on this show. He seems to be a true fan of the show and has shown compassion on more than one occasion so far. He has hugged two contestants now that they have shown.
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:54 PM   #109
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I agree with pmyers. I totally missed the sex joke. I remember sex jokes and innuendo when David Hasslehoff was a judge. Remember the guy that sang the song to Hoff? Didn't he even ask for his underwear or something? How did your family like that episode?

I am not a Howard fan but have been impressed with him on this show. He seems to be a true fan of the show and has shown compassion on more than one occasion so far. He has hugged two contestants now that they have shown.
We've only watched the past two seasons. I have no idea what went on prior to that. This isn't the sort of show I'd watch on my own - without my kids. They liked the little kids who sang, the dance groups, the motorcycle and BMX guys, etc. When I turned on this season, the first act was the magician/stripper/nipple ring guy and Howard was talking to him about his package. Just didn't seem like a road I want to go down with my kids. Again, I'm not easily offended and I watch plenty of raunchy stuff, but I have different standards for my kids. Howard changes the tone of the show, and to me this was a family oriented show so I don't see Howard and AGT as a great fit. Maybe it will be a huge hit because of all of the Stern fans that are watching, but that's a different audience.
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We've only watched the past two seasons. I have no idea what went on prior to that. This isn't the sort of show I'd watch on my own - without my kids. They liked the little kids who sang, the dance groups, the motorcycle and BMX guys, etc. When I turned on this season, the first act was the magician/stripper/nipple ring guy and Howard was talking to him about his package. Just didn't seem like a road I want to go down with my kids. Again, I'm not easily offended and I watch plenty of raunchy stuff, but I have different standards for my kids. Howard changes the tone of the show, and to me this was a family oriented show so I don't see Howard and AGT as a great fit. Maybe it will be a huge hit because of all of the Stern fans that are watching, but that's a different audience.
I don't fault you for not feeling this is a show for your family. However, it was that way before Howard got there. I think even Sharon has made her share of comments about shirtless men on here. I think Piers made comments about pole dancers too. I am sure there are other examples that I am not remembering.
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I don't fault you for not feeling this is a show for your family. However, it was that way before Howard got there. I think even Sharon has made her share of comments about shirtless men on here. I think Piers made comments about pole dancers too. I am sure there are other examples that I am not remembering.
There were definitely moments in the past season or two that weren't ideal for watching with little kids. But probably 98% of it was OK and the kids loved most of the acts. Now, I'm not sure what the percentage is for this season, but I think it's lower and I had to draw the line somewhere. Where in the past the inappropriate stuff was mostly innuendo (which goes over the heads of little kids), Howard is more blunt. It just seems to me that the tone of the show changed, and I think that's to be expected with Howard.
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There were definitely moments in the past season or two that weren't ideal for watching with little kids. But probably 98% of it was OK and the kids loved most of the acts. Now, I'm not sure what the percentage is for this season, but I think it's lower and I had to draw the line somewhere. Where in the past the inappropriate stuff was mostly innuendo (which goes over the heads of little kids), Howard is more blunt. It just seems to me that the tone of the show changed, and I think that's to be expected with Howard.
You gleened all of that by watching 20 minutes? The act and joke you are referring to have been the only ones that I can think of in the 5 hours that have aired so far. I think you are looking for something that isn't there.
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You gleened all of that by watching 20 minutes? The act and joke you are referring to have been the only ones that I can think of in the 5 hours that have aired so far. I think you are looking for something that isn't there.
I don't know about "looking for something that isn't there" but that wasn't much of a first impression. And knowing a little about Howard, I wasn't exactly shocked.

If I have your word that it's squeaky clean after that point, maybe I'll let the kiddies watch.
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You gleened all of that by watching 20 minutes? The act and joke you are referring to have been the only ones that I can think of in the 5 hours that have aired so far. I think you are looking for something that isn't there.
I have to agree with you, I haven't seen or heard any dick jokes or the usual sexual innuendo that are uncomfortable when sitting there with my daughters. I thought it was pretty clean so far.
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I have to agree with you, I haven't seen or heard any dick jokes or the usual sexual innuendo that are uncomfortable when sitting there with my daughters. I thought it was pretty clean so far.
There was the guy abusing his genitals, and his blurred underwear, but I don't know if that counts.
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There was the guy abusing his genitals, and his blurred underwear, but I don't know if that counts.
That is true, but again, has nothing to do with Howard.
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There were definitely moments in the past season or two that weren't ideal for watching with little kids. But probably 98% of it was OK and the kids loved most of the acts. Now, I'm not sure what the percentage is for this season, but I think it's lower and I had to draw the line somewhere. Where in the past the inappropriate stuff was mostly innuendo (which goes over the heads of little kids), Howard is more blunt. It just seems to me that the tone of the show changed, and I think that's to be expected with Howard.
I wonder if it could be that the younger your children were, the more stuff went over their head, but as they get older, they can start to catch on more.
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That is true, but again, has nothing to do with Howard.
You are right. I thought he wanted to know if the whole show was squeaky clean.
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There were definitely moments in the past season or two that weren't ideal for watching with little kids. But probably 98% of it was OK and the kids loved most of the acts. Now, I'm not sure what the percentage is for this season, but I think it's lower and I had to draw the line somewhere. Where in the past the inappropriate stuff was mostly innuendo (which goes over the heads of little kids), Howard is more blunt. It just seems to me that the tone of the show changed, and I think that's to be expected with Howard.
And maybe your just more sensitive to them this season because of Howard's reputation. We have been watching from the early days with Regis. The show has always had the freak acts, and the odd stripping acts.
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Shame on that kids mother. Don't blame Howard because your kid sucks and can't handle rejection. She put him in that position. If he isn't mature enough to handle it, don't let him compete.

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I agree 100% and it was my exact thought when I saw it. It is completely the parents fault the kid was crying. You put on stage in front of millions of people knowing that a 7 year old is never going win this show and you get what you get.
I was of the same mind. When the kid is asked about the million and he says he would help his family, yes, that's so cute from a seven year old. Then you see the song he sang (thank you, closed captioning!) and how truly bad he was and his reaction at getting buzzed and all, and my thoughts go to, "I wonder how much he was lead to believe by his mom/family that this really was 'their shot' at 'making it'"?

Buzz away, Howard, you owe it to the people who really are good enough to spend time on.

And was I missing something before, or did it seem there was an inordinate number of instances where the producers or crew or whatever were in the shot at the judges table? Do they wind up getting appearance fees at some point???
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