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Old 04-09-2014, 08:28 AM   #1
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Justified "Restitution" S05E13 Season Finale 4/8/14

Well, I guess we now know why so much time was spent setting up Ava in prison. We'll see how this plays out in the series' final season. Will she betray Boyd?

I had mixed feelings about this season finale; on the one hand it was very nice to see Wendy off Darryl in such a graphic manner, especially while Raylan watched with gun drawn. But, on the other hand, it seemed too "set up" and obvious that she was recording their conversation.

I'm gonna love me some bank-robbing by Boyd

Next season should be great with lots of Raylan/Boyd interaction as the story winds down...
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:41 AM   #2
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Looks like Katherine Hale is the big bad for next season.

Makes me wonder if Boyd will ultimately sell out Hale and Wynn Duffy by the end of the series finale to get to a happy ending with Ava.
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:56 AM   #3
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OK ending to an OK season.

The Ava storyline was a complete waste and could have been set up much better. The writing for it was poor and Joelle Carter wasn't a strong enough actor to salvage it. As an actor she needs a strong lead to carry a scene.

Not sure how I feel about next season. I hope it kinda mirrors season 1 with Boyd and Raylan ending up with an uneasy truce.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:50 AM   #4
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I really enjoyed it.

Ava being a CI could be very interesting.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:16 AM   #5
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[shooting location trivia]

Sheldon and Leonard could have looked out Penny's window to see Crowe run that red light. That intersection was 2 blocks away from the intersection that sets up the view out Sheldon and Leonard's window.

Green and Oakland in Pasadena. Green Street was very recognizable.

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Old 04-09-2014, 10:42 AM   #6
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I had mixed feelings about this season finale; on the one hand it was very nice to see Wendy off Darryl in such a graphic manner, especially while Raylan watched with gun drawn. But, on the other hand, it seemed too "set up" and obvious that she was recording their conversation.
It was very obvious to us as viewers anyway. I think the tension was wondering if Darryl knew. The way he glanced at her purse when she set it down made me think that he did.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:08 AM   #7
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So just like he did with Nicky Augustine, Raylan manipulates the criminal class to set up a confrontation where he's fairly certain that the season's baddy gets killed. Don't think that I'd be able to be standing there silently with my privates shot off though.

This time Art didn't seem too disturbed that somehow Rayland managed to get the guy who shot him (Art) killed.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:10 AM   #8
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Looks like Katherine Hale is the big bad for next season.
She does not get it done for me as a big bad though. Nice cheek implants.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:30 AM   #9
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I totally didn't understand what Ava's group was talking about who was a snitch. Who didn't know who killed Ava's friend?
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:41 AM   #10
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I totally didn't understand what Ava's group was talking about who was a snitch. Who didn't know who killed Ava's friend?
Gretchen had Penny killed then snitched on her own girl for doing it. This made it look like Ava was the snitch, which removed the group's loyalty and protection.
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:10 PM   #11
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"Art" on Redeye talks about Justified and discusses his homoerotic relationship with "Rayland"

http://video.foxnews.com/v/344952188...20View%20media
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:29 PM   #12
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Good interview here by Sepinwall talking to showrunner Yost about how this season didn't quite measure up and some of the on-the-fly changes that were made...
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Old 04-09-2014, 01:11 PM   #13
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Part of the reason this season didn't work quite as well for me was that I didn't really find Daryl to be all that convincing as the big bad. Granted, he was able to easily manipulate his own family. But I just never felt like he was smart enough to pose any kind of real threat to Boyd or to Raylan. Obviously we all know the hero is going to win out in an ongoing series*, but Quarles, Nicky/Theo, and certainly Mags all seemed believably cunning enough to give Raylan a run for his money. Daryl never seemed to me like he could really do much more than complicate things for the main characters.

*I don't have any insider knowledge about anything, and I haven't read or heard anything about the final season, so this is 100% in my head and is not a spoiler. BUT: Am I the only one who thinks that the fact that they continually use "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive" as a running musical theme could be foreshadowing that Raylan might die in the end?
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Old 04-09-2014, 01:20 PM   #14
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Gretchen had Penny killed then snitched on her own girl for doing it. This made it look like Ava was the snitch, which removed the group's loyalty and protection.
why would it be bad to snitch on the person who you know killed somebody in your group? I guess the "right" move is to just kill that person yourself /shrug #thuglife
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Since Art was shot, has Raylan killed anyone, or even fired his gun at all? I had the impression that was how it was playing out, maybe from even earlier than that. Or am I forgetting something?
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:22 PM   #16
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why would it be bad to snitch on the person who you know killed somebody in your group? I guess the "right" move is to just kill that person yourself /shrug #thuglife
Yeah. No snitching in prison. Even if it is outside your group.
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:35 PM   #17
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This time Art didn't seem too disturbed that somehow Rayland managed to get the guy who shot him (Art) killed.
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Art: Is he dead?
Raylan: Yup.
Art: Did you shoot him?
Raylan: No.
Art: Thanks.

Part of me thought the "thanks" was "thanks for not shooting him yourself and being a pain in my butt."

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Old 04-09-2014, 06:29 PM   #18
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why would it be bad to snitch on the person who you know killed somebody in your group? I guess the "right" move is to just kill that person yourself /shrug #thuglife
I've never been in prison myself, but I've seen enough TV shows about prison to know that you don't snitch. No matter what.

On another note, when Raylan was video chatting with Winona, did it look like he was using Windows XP? That isn't supported anymore
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Old 04-09-2014, 06:33 PM   #19
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...On another note, when Raylan was video chatting with Winona, did it look like he was using Windows XP? That isn't supported anymore
Maybe at the time this ep was taped, it still was supported...
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"Are those bullet holes?"

Sure Wendy was watching, but Kendal gave no direct sign that he didn't do it when Raylan was talking to him, other than going back to his prepared line, "I just saw a guy with a star on his belt." I was waiting for Raylan to say that Art doesn't wear his star on his belt, but Daryl obviously saw it.
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:44 AM   #21
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Sure Wendy was watching, but Kendal gave no direct sign that he didn't do it when Raylan was talking to him, other than going back to his prepared line, "I just saw a guy with a star on...
His whole reaction to the discussion of killing showed the he was not capable of killing (or trying to kill) a person.
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I've never been in prison myself, but I've seen enough TV shows about prison to know that you don't snitch. No matter what.

On another note, when Raylan was video chatting with Winona, did it look like he was using Windows XP? That isn't supported anymore
OT - we still have 75% of our north American employees on XP/Office 2003/IE8. I just migrated to Windows 7 on Tuesday, but I'm the guinea pig for my department (and it didn't roll out properly, but that's on my IT group, not MS). It will be at least a year, if not longer, before we have migrated everyone.
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:05 AM   #23
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An average season, as said above Crowe wasn't nearly as good a "bad guy" as we've had in previous seasons. I guess we've all known it would evenutally come down to Raylan vs. Boyd. Should be good. They should have just left Ava in jail or knocked her off. Not looking forward to her as a CI. I DO want to see more Dewey and Dickie.
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Grrrr my recording cut off just after Hale asked Boyd how much he knows about her. What dd I miss?
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Grrrr my recording cut off just after Hale asked Boyd how much he knows about her. What dd I miss?
Mine cut off as well. I watched the end using On Demand (on UVerse.) They get the drugs from Boyd's car and tell him he is really bad at moving Heroin but that they hear he is really good at robbing banks. Then it cuts to a bridge where Ava meets Raylan and they discus her responsibilities as a CI.
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