New youtube app

[rhenson]

Thanks for the ideas - playlists work for me.

My tv isn't supported for pairing

I came here really just to add to the list of users that REALLY don't like the new app...It makes my blood pressure rise, which is a first for me from tivo (I know its a google app...but Tivo is who I am paying!)

[sbiller]

Originally Posted by tron1977

Yeah, I though the pairing was AWESOME. Until I quit and went back in... and had to re-pair. Sucks.

I think youtube has corrected/fixed the pairing issue. I was able to pair my iPad at m.youtube.com, exit the safari browser, relaunch and the pairing was still present. I have some more testing to do but I think youtube may have fixed the issue.

[DJQuad]

Is there a list of what controls are available? I cannot believe the TiVo team allowed such a confusing and frustrating piece of software to pass QA.

[celtic pride]

I wish i had kept 1 of my logitech revues ,the you tube leanback onthat google tv box was great! on the tivo i cant even figure how to get out of the app i always have to hit live tv to get out then hit he tivo button to get back to the menu,I thought if i went left it would take me back to the menu.

[innocentfreak]

Originally Posted by DJQuad

Is there a list of what controls are available? I cannot believe the TiVo team allowed such a confusing and frustrating piece of software to pass QA.

You mean Google right? TiVo doesn't design the app. This is purely Google's design and implementation.

[moedaman]

Originally Posted by innocentfreak

You mean Google right? TiVo doesn't design the app. This is purely Google's design and implementation.

So Tivo doesn't approve an app that goes on their equipment?

[innocentfreak]

Originally Posted by moedaman

So Tivo doesn't approve an app that goes on their equipment?

They probably have some approval, but they probably can't dictate controls and that. Otherwise the app would control more like a TiVo does.

Now if TiVo wanted o get back into app development it would be a different story.

[morac]

I'll mention that the YouTube app is now remember my "remotes" (mobile devices) so I don't have to keep setting them up every time I use YouTube on TiVo.

Using a "remote" makes the app much more usable. I still prefer the just released PS3 YouTube app since it's much faster.

[nrc]

Originally Posted by DJQuad

Is there a list of what controls are available? I cannot believe the TiVo team allowed such a confusing and frustrating piece of software to pass QA.

I'd rather have the old app back. The new one takes forever to start and then it's slow and ridiculously confusing to navigate.

If YouTube developed it, is this the same interface that they put on other devices that they develop for?

[morac]

Originally Posted by nrc

If YouTube developed it, is this the same interface that they put on other devices that they develop for?

Yes, it's the same, more or less.

[chrispitude]

Originally Posted by nrc

I'd rather have the old app back. The new one takes forever to start and then it's slow and ridiculously confusing to navigate

Me too.

[DJQuad]

Originally Posted by innocentfreak

You mean Google right? TiVo doesn't design the app. This is purely Google's design and implementation.

Yep I know. I'm amazed TiVo allowed it to happen.

[DJQuad]

Are playlists still an issue? I have some that have around 30 videos (and say so), but sometimes when I go to play them there are only about 5 videos listed.

My goodness this app is horrible.

[Atomic Buffalo]

The Premiere I bought was supposed to get better over time as software was improved.

The Premiere is WORSE than it was a year ago.

The YouTube app sucks. And it's not just that it sucks like on every other TV-connected device, it sucks worse. The YouTube app on my Sony TV is much faster, easier to navigate content, buffers and streams better, and FF/REW controls make more sense and actually work.

Tivo's YouTube app? I cannot remember the last time I used software this bad. It is frustrating and stupid and makes me hate my Tivo. It is unusable. So I just behave like my Tivo doesn't support YouTube, because for all intents and purposes, IT DOESN'T.

Another thing -- I don't want a Netflix app or a YouTube app. I want a Tivo app. I bought Tivo for the software. I want consistent, intuitive navigation across all media sources. I want consistent, intuitive playback controls across all media sources. Not consistent with those source providers, consistent with Tivo. That was the big promise of Tivo Premiere. Between Netflix and YouTube chipping away at the Tivo Experience, it seems Tivo has forgotten what made them great, and what can keep them relevant in this era of Internet TVs.


It's not renting out space on their box to cut-rate implementations of Internet video providers' tyro interfaces.

[Jonathan_S]

Originally Posted by Atomic Buffalo

The YouTube app sucks. And it's not just that it sucks like on every other TV-connected device, it sucks worse. The YouTube app on my Sony TV is much faster, easier to navigate content, buffers and streams better, and FF/REW controls make more sense and actually work.

Tivo's YouTube app? I cannot remember the last time I used software this bad. It is frustrating and stupid and makes me hate my Tivo. It is unusable. So I just behave like my Tivo doesn't support YouTube, because for all intents and purposes, IT DOESN'T.

That's what I had to do as well; just pretent the TiVo can't access youtube because the new app is a UI disaster and virtually unusuable.

Sorry my favorites list is not a playlist I always want to watch in the same order! It's collection of youtube clips I might want to show to someone or watch again. Forcing me to start watching the oldest (or is the the first alphabetically?) clip, then stop it and fight through the interface before I can see a listing of favorites is just nuts.

[DJQuad]

Not only is this app horrid for reasons mentioned in this thread, it's buggy.

1, The videos freeze periodically. If it's a bandwidth issue, why doesn't it just buffer? The only way to fix the freeze is to exit the app and watch the video again.

2, Sometimes the "My Playlists" disappears from the menu. The only way to fix it is to restart the app.

This app is absolute garbage. How TiVo accepted this app on their platform is totally beyond me. It's ironic that Youtube designed this one and TiVo's older Youtube app was so much better.

Having said that, I'm not blaming Youtube. I'm blaming the company I've been a customer of for years, bought 4 TiVo's from, and who I pay monthly for service.

I hope someone from TiVo responds to this thread. It's beyond ridiculous and frustrating to say the least!

[DJQuad]

Also, the Netflix app isn't much better. TiVo would you *please* stop allowing their apps on your platform and simply continue the development of your own apps that accesses their services. I cannot stress this enough - they are making TiVo look bad, and you are making yourselves look bad by allowing it.

[inahaz]

On my Elite tonight, the old YouTube interface is back! Life is good!

Hopefully this is here to stay.

[DJQuad]

On Premiere, not yet. Same ol' crappy app.

[boboqui]

Originally Posted by inahaz

On my Elite tonight, the old YouTube interface is back! Life is good!

Hopefully this is here to stay.

+1 on premiere, but it's gone this morning.

[mikeyts]

I played with the YouTube player a bit and I have to agree that it sucks, big-time. It doesn't matter much to me since this PC is attached to the same 46" 1080p LCD panel as my TiVo Premiere, so I generally use it to view YouTube clips. Of course, I don't know whether I ever used the old TiVo YouTube player so I can't compare it to that one (I should hook up my old TiVo-S3-with-PLS-that-I-should-get-around-to-selling and try it).

[morac]

I'm using the YouTube app in combination with the YouTube remote feature at the mobile web version of YouTube. That works great since I can find videos I want to watch on my iPad and then simply play them on the TiVo. So all I need to do is launch the YouTube app on the TiVo and then never touch the TiVo remote until I'm done.

[DJQuad]

Wow this app keeps getting worse and worse, if that's even possible. The menus disappear after about 3 seconds, so it's nearly impossible to choose a video within a playlist or related videos, and when I do, I look forward to a complete freeze within the first few seconds.

Well, I'm giving up with this POS app. TiVo doesn't seem to care about all these complaints. I'm not sure why they've allowed Youtube and Netflix to ruin these apps on their platform, but whatever.

I don't think they realize the brand they're hurting is *TiVo*. The fact that TiVo even accepted this crap software makes me blame them most of all, generally because TiVo is who I pay monthly.

The YouTube and Netflix apps are simply unacceptable, yet TiVo is ignoring that and doing nothing to fix it. The TiVo developers were probably glad overall that YouTube and Netflix were developing their apps that were going on TiVos, but since then, TiVo is simply not listening to their customers. These 2 apps are complete garbage, which in turn are making TiVo look worse.

Listen TiVo, you are who we pay. Give us something that actually works. I don't think that['s too much to ask.

[chrispitude]

My toddler loves choo-choos, so I did a search on "steam railroad" and let the resulting videos play, one after the other. This resulted in some intermittent playback issues. For some videos, the playback stuttered constantly until I hit the "back" button to skip back a few sections, at which point it played back perfectly (including through the section that was just stuttering). On other videos, it would just hang with a black screen until I manually advanced to the next video.

[RigbyPA]

Do you think TIVO (or google?) will address and fix the issue of not having ability to find individual subscriptions?

I find the Youtube app almost useless without this function.


Can I contact Tivo directly about this issue and if so how can I do that?

I just want to know that complaints are being heard.

[burdellgp]

You'd have better luck (although still probably close to zero) if you contact Google. The YouTube app on TiVo is written by Google (and is the same as on other Flash-based platforms, such as Vizio TVs).

[DJQuad]

Originally Posted by RigbyPA

Do you think TIVO (or google?) will address and fix the issue of not having ability to find individual subscriptions?

I find the Youtube app almost useless without this function.

Can I contact Tivo directly about this issue and if so how can I do that?

I just want to know that complaints are being heard.

I mentioned during a chat with with support my dissatisfaction and the rep said they'd pass it along to management.

In other words, they blow it off.

Get your s#it together TiVo, Google/YouTube is making you look horrible. Again, we pay you for service, not them.

[Subversive]

For the PlayStation 3. One is forced to use it and all it does is add a clunky GUI that forgets what you typed before and then crashes the whole system forcing a reboot.

[DJQuad]

Heh.. Is there ANY platform that YouTube doesn't utterly suck?

I tried simply viewing all videos of a user I'm a subscriber of. I'm convinced the ones that develop these apps are clearly not actual YouTube users.

Again, I cannot believe TiVo accepted this crap. It's literally the worst app I've ever used.

[nmccainjr]

Why do I have to activate Youtube all the time?