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Old 03-25-2012, 07:39 PM   #1
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Mad Men - Season 5 Episode 1

Placeholder for the new season, EP1.
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:06 PM   #2
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Nooooo don't do a season thread! Do episode threads pleeeeeease! I can't watch tonight so have fun!
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Will mix up a Manhattan soon!
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:12 PM   #4
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Nooooo don't do a season thread! Do episode threads pleeeeeease! I can't watch tonight so have fun!
So, is that better? S5E1?
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:13 PM   #5
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Will mix up a Manhattan soon!

Do it! And, while you're at it, mix one up for me!
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:20 PM   #6
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Do it!
haven't started to watch yet
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Old 03-25-2012, 09:07 PM   #7
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WTF ? Why isn't AMC on DirecTV channel 254 in HD !?!?

http://support.directv.com/app/answe...ffer-amc-hd%3F
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:12 PM   #8
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:13 PM   #9
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Great episode!!

Best line -

Roger - "Why don't you dance like that?"

Roger's wife - "Why don't you look like him?"
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:32 PM   #10
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Great episode!!

Best line -

Roger - "Why don't you dance like that?"

Roger's wife - "Why don't you look like him?"
Yea, loved that too.

It looked like for a while that Don was going to blow it with his new wife.

But, maybe that's what new - Don Draper actually in love and happy? That can't last!
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:54 PM   #11
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Great episode? We waited 17 months for this? Sorry. Don Draper in love does not make for great drama.

Big disappointment here.
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:55 PM   #12
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Tem mine was in hd. I have directv.
Very strange. My DVR said it recorded 254, which was in SD but when I go back to 254 now, it's in HD. I'll try deleting/re-adding the season pass -- it must have still been set to the old channel (?)

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Old 03-25-2012, 11:25 PM   #13
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Very strange. My DVR said it recorded 254, which was in SD but when I go back to 254 now, it's in HD. I'll try deleting/re-adding the season pass -- it must have still been set to the old channel (?)
Yes. Old season passes record of the sd Amc for some reason. I had the issue with walking dead.
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Question - I have recorded this ep because, well, there has been such a big deal about this show coming back BUT I've never seen the show. Coming in at S05E01, will it be confusing or is it worthwhile starting to watch at this point? Thanks for any advise from the fans who've been watching all along. It sounds compelling, but I don't want to be any more clueless than I am already.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:52 AM   #15
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Question - I have recorded this ep because, well, there has been such a big deal about this show coming back BUT I've never seen the show. Coming in at S05E01, will it be confusing or is it worthwhile starting to watch at this point? Thanks for any advise from the fans who've been watching all along. It sounds compelling, but I don't want to be any more clueless than I am already.
It will at least give you a good idea if this is a show you would want to continue to watch, and maybe make you think about then starting at the beggining with season one episode one. I have seen every episode so far in order. To my mind this is the best television in recent years.
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:21 AM   #16
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Great episode? We waited 17 months for this? Sorry. Don Draper in love does not make for great drama.

Big disappointment here.
Agree with this. The pacing was just odd to me. It was almost 2 hours of hit and run schtick. At least Betty was nowhere to be found.
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:22 AM   #17
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Great episode? We waited 17 months for this? Sorry. Don Draper in love does not make for great drama.

Big disappointment here.
Really? Don Draper in love in the first episode may not be great drama, but I bet they have something cooked up for him.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:15 AM   #18
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I thought it was a little weak for 2 hours. I think they've set up some good stuff with Pete and Roger.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:21 AM   #19
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I liked Joan and her mom-

You're not exactly at your fighting weight...

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Old 03-26-2012, 07:23 AM   #20
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Coming in at S05E01, will it be confusing or is it worthwhile starting to watch at this point?
I was thinking about this last night. I can't imagine starting now would be rewarding at all. The characters' storylines are way too far along.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:31 AM   #21
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Great episode!!

Best line -

Roger - "Why don't you dance like that?"

Roger's wife - "Why don't you look like him?"

Roger's other great line as he's walking towards Joan and the baby: "There's my baby!"

Great episode. I wish my wife would zoobey-zoo me! No, you can't have this, you have to sit over there and watch me clean the apartment! I'm not buying Don's reason for not wanting a surprise party - because he doesn't want his coworkers in his house?

Did they get a new Bobby Draper? I haven't compared the cast listing yet.

Loved Don's line to Sally as he drops the kids at a very Addams Family-looking house: "Say hello to Gomez and Morticia."
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:53 AM   #22
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I was confused as to the ad. Was it supposed to be a joke? I didn't get it. Was there something I missed???
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:57 AM   #23
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Yes, it was a joke. Their competitor were the ones throwing the water bombs on the protestors at the beginning. So to rub salt in their public wound SCDP ran the ad that basically said, "We're not racist like those other guys."

Of course, the ad somewhat backfired and because they actually are as racist as the other group they had to figure out how to handle the spot they put themselves in.
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Did they get a new Bobby Draper? I haven't compared the cast listing yet.
He's credited the same. Looking at the actor, he's changed his appearance a lot.
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Sepinwall liked the episode much better than I did: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...im-a-man-im-40

Another poster mentioned pacing. That bothered me almost as much as anything. It just didn't have the Mad Men feel to the pacing. Sepinwall explains that these were really filmed as two episodes and will be broken up for repeats (and we only get 11 more this season). That partially explains it.
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Any episode(s) without Betty Draper is a good one in my book.
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Great episode. I wish my wife would zoobey-zoo me! No, you can't have this, you have to sit over there and watch me clean the apartment!
I loved that. It took me a minute to get it, but once she put her backside up in the air I knew it was all over! I like that she is a "nice" girl on the outside but can show another side to her. I think she is a good mix of boring betty and a few of Don's other women.
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The commercials every few minutes bugged me. Even though they were not long gaps of time, I would rather have had a lot of show then a long break rather than the bunch of short breaks.
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It just didn't have the Mad Men feel to the pacing.
Pacing wasn't ponderous enough for you?

It's always been too slow for me.
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Pacing wasn't ponderous enough for you?

It's always been too slow for me.
A few thoughts:

For the folks who haven't watched before:
Mad Men is a character driven period piece, about America during a tumultuous time of change (the 60's) - lots of change. In many ways, it's very similar to Downton Abbey in that Downton is a character driven period piece that is uniquely British, during a tumultuous time in Britain's history.

Whether or not you like it depends a lot on whether or not you find the characters interesting, as they interact during that time period. I was a kid during that time (I guess I'm aging myself), and it was both a fascinating time and a horrible and difficult time. Mad Men goes into great detail to make sure everything about the time period as they present it is authentic, and gives you a real view of that time. So, I find it compelling for a number of reasons.

But, I wouldn't think you could view just one show and find it captivating. Like most character driven shows, I think you have to view a series of episodes to see if the characters and the story grab you or not.

As for Don Draper being in love:
Well, I think I misled some by indicating in an earlier post that he appears in love. In actuality, the way it's played, he appears in lust, not love. I think a real open question would be can Don Draper really love anyone. I don't think he can, but I guess we'll see. He's managed to destroy almost every relationship he's had with all the girls and women in his life (with the exception of only one I can think of, and she's dead), and I suspect he'll manage to destroy this one too. He is, after all, a liar, a deserter, who regularly and ongoingly, serially cheated on his wife, right?

Highlights for me from last nights 2 Hour season premiere:
The Party: zoobey zoo! Nicely done, but I almost felt it was out of place. I, like many others, really didn't understand or believe why Don D really didn't like his surprise party. But what a view of the time! With the dresses, clothes and colorful garb it was wonderful.

Peggy's comment earlier on that she didn't like the "new" Draper. Jealous? Or was it a comment that Don Draper in love, or lust, wasn't as good at his job as the older darker Don Draper was?

Is Roger on his way out? That seems to be a new more central theme for the new season. Roger fans, be wary....I, for one, would greatly miss the Joan and Roger scenes.
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