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Old 04-15-2012, 08:05 AM   #1
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Fox Close to Renewing Fringe

It's not a guarantee and probably won't be a full 22 ep season but I'll take it!

http://www.tvwise.co.uk/2012/04/excl...-final-season/
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:11 AM   #2
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I hope so it's still my favorite show!
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:34 AM   #3
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Sounds a lot like what WB did with Chuck... drop the licensing fee dramatically to get a limited concluding run of a *very* niche show, one that is not getting the ratings that merit a renewal.

I wouldn't be surprised to see production budgets get slashed for next season as well.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:18 AM   #5
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Wow. Chuck had about 50% higher demos and wasn't the lowest rated show on the network. In fact most NBC comedies were getting around Chuck's ratings.

I prefer 13 episodes and force the writers to tighten things up and get rid of the waste.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:33 AM   #6
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I'd rather have a six episode, filler free miniseries that wraps everything up.
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Do they really need more time to tell this story? It feels like the entire past season has just been going round in a big circle to get back to a point they were already at.
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:44 PM   #8
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Wow. Chuck had about 50% higher demos and wasn't the lowest rated show on the network. In fact most NBC comedies were getting around Chuck's ratings.

I prefer 13 episodes and force the writers to tighten things up and get rid of the waste.
Fridays are a completely different animal when compared to the rest of the TV week. Friday's reduced expectations allowed NBC to bring Chuck back for a final 13-episode season, and Friday allowed FOX to renew Fringe last season, and potentially again this season. I think it's time to rename the "Friday Night Death Slot" into something else.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:40 PM   #9
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Do they really need more time to tell this story? It feels like the entire past season has just been going round in a big circle to get back to a point they were already at.
Depends on how they end this season. I don't like that the finale they shot can be "either a series or a season finale"--I never like those. If a show is gonna end, I want it to end right which for me means a ton of notice. Chuck getting a 13 episode final season, that was branded as a final season, was what I want for Fringe, whether it's 6, 8, 13 episodes...

Given the fact that I don't have many serialized shows left to be into, and none that are sci-fi oriented, I want Fringe to come back, and to be ended correctly.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:56 PM   #10
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Depends on how they end this season. I don't like that the finale they shot can be "either a series or a season finale"--I never like those. If a show is gonna end, I want it to end right which for me means a ton of notice. Chuck getting a 13 episode final season, that was branded as a final season, was what I want for Fringe, whether it's 6, 8, 13 episodes...

Given the fact that I don't have many serialized shows left to be into, and none that are sci-fi oriented, I want Fringe to come back, and to be ended correctly.
Where did you hear that? I read that they shot two different endings for this season's finale, so that if they get renewed, they show the one that implies the story continues, but if they don't get renewed, they show the one that wraps everything up.
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Where did you hear that? I read that they shot two different endings for this season's finale, so that if they get renewed, they show the one that implies the story continues, but if they don't get renewed, they show the one that wraps everything up.
That's what I meant sorry, I wasn't clear. I don't like it either way though, but I guess it's better than nothing. I guess one way would end the storyline as it is and leave it at that, where the other would end the storyline but then have an extra scene opening something new up (just speculation, I didn't read the full article on it so I'm not sure what they're doing).
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:25 PM   #12
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I think it's time to rename the "Friday Night Death Slot" into something else.
"Friday Night Zombie Slot"?
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:35 PM   #13
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Depends on how they end this season. I don't like that the finale they shot can be "either a series or a season finale"--I never like those. If a show is gonna end, I want it to end right which for me means a ton of notice. Chuck getting a 13 episode final season, that was branded as a final season, was what I want for Fringe, whether it's 6, 8, 13 episodes...
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Where did you hear that? I read that they shot two different endings for this season's finale, so that if they get renewed, they show the one that implies the story continues, but if they don't get renewed, they show the one that wraps everything up.
You're both right, initially the production team was interviewed and said they had shot a season finale that could function as a series finale, it's only the past week where they have said they shot additional footage so they could swap out the ending.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:37 PM   #14
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:31 PM   #15
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13 episodes with a great finale, and it will go down as one of the best sci-fi series period. BIH Lost...
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:20 AM   #16
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13 episodes with a great finale, and it will go down as one of the best sci-fi series period. BIH Lost...
Is Buffy considered science fiction?
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:24 AM   #17
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Reaper was the best, come on people!!!!

Man I miss that show, so great and full of cheese
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:50 AM   #18
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Just looked in the Tivo guide for tonights episode of Fringe...

From the description:

Spoiler:
Looks like we might get to find out what happened when Peter was transported into the future after using the machine.


If that is what happens, I'm looking forward to it!
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:22 AM   #19
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No, definitely not. Horror would be the closest genre description.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:10 PM   #20
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I think Buffy would be closer to the Urban Fantasy genre.
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She was certainly one of my fantasies.
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"Urban Fantasy?" Never even heard of that as a genre.
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"Urban Fantasy?" Never even heard of that as a genre.
Walk through the sci-fi section of a B&N, and look at all those tight-leather-clad women staring at you from the book covers, usually tattooed, usually holding some kind of weapon. That's Urban Fantasy.
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I think Buffy would be closer to the Urban Fantasy genre.
Did Buffy initiate the Urban Fantasy genre? Or is there an earlier example?
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Did Buffy initiate the Urban Fantasy genre? Or is there an earlier example?
I guess it depends on which Buffy you consider "real" (in terms of an Urban Fantasy prototype). If you take the movie (1992) then perhaps so. If you take the series (1997), then Xena predates it (1995). The Buffy character from the movie and series are pretty different to me and I'd be inclined to say Xena is before (the real) Buffy.

But I'm sure there are other movie examples that predate both.
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Xena isn't even remotely Urban Fantasy...she's straight, old-school fantasy.
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Walk through the sci-fi section of a B&N, and look at all those tight-leather-clad women staring at you from the book covers, usually tattooed, usually holding some kind of weapon. That's Urban Fantasy.
This description sounds to me like Lara Croft. Was she the beginning of that trend? Is it possible that a video game inspired a genre, or was she just a product of the genre that already existed.
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Not really.

Urban Fantasy is set in the modern world, involves (usually) a heroine who often but not always possesses some kind of supernatural ability, but always dealing with the supernatural. It also usually involves romance to a greater or lesser degree.

It's almost entirely a literary form. Oddly, there isn't a lot of Urban Fantasy TV or movies. Probably the best example of it on television is Blood Ties (Canadian show about a female detective and her vampire quasi-boyfriend)

I suspect where it came from is aspiring sci-fi/fantasy writers who liked romance novels, and wanted to combine the two.
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Lost Girl on SyFy and Grimm on NBC would btoh be considered Urban Fantasy.

I've found that most Urban Fantasy books tend to walk be written by women and end up being quasi-romance novels. The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher is a great example of how the genra can be done well.
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Lost Girl definitely.

Dresden Files I'd say is kinda borderline. It share some elements, but goes its own way.

Grimm seems to me to be the mainstreaming of Urban Fantasy (and when the mainstream catches on to a cultural movement, that's often a sign that it has already died ).

I suspect you and I are just arguing for broader and narrower definitions respectively.
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