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Old 05-26-2014, 12:34 PM   #1471
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Yep, the ratings are only one component of determining whether or not a show gets renewed. A big component, but not the only one. Production costs and ownership of the show are a couple of others. I believe Almost Human was probably done in by high production costs without the ratings to justify the high cost.
Right. Of course, the ratings have to justify the costs. Cost is part of the reason that Terra Nova was cancelled as well. We've seen other shows owned by the network get a pass while other shows not owned by the network get canned. But, again, Live +SD ratings are the primary driver. Don't get me wrong, that chart is interesting to see the 'real' ratings, but it has no or little effect on whether or not a show gets renewed. Few if any of the shows on that list actually reached the ratings posted there in Live+SD.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:23 PM   #1472
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Don't the ratings in general always go down in the Spring. As people start spending more time outside.
They do. Fox just went lower than expected.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:41 PM   #1473
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Even if they have the L+3, comparing that to L+7 isn't accurate either. Plus, like Worf said, those numbers don't really matter anyway when it comes to a show staying on the air. So being surprised that a show higher on this list was cancelled while a lower show was renewed is kind of silly because the numbers on that list don't determine whether a show gets renewed.
I still think you're misunderstanding the chart. It's not comparing shows with L+3 data against shows with L+7 data against shows with L+SD data. It's simply taking the full season's ratings, from late September until April 20. Most of that time is L+7 data, which would be everything from late September until early April. Then it would add in L+3 for a couple weeks in early April. And then it would have L+SD data for only those last couple days before April 20 when there isn't L+3 yet.
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Yep, the ratings are only one component of determining whether or not a show gets renewed. A big component, but not the only one. Production costs and ownership of the show are a couple of others. I believe Almost Human was probably done in by high production costs without the ratings to justify the high cost.
That's what I'm guessing too. With all the tech in that show (and a show like Intelligence) it probably costs more to produce. And we're not seeing ad rates either. Perhaps they weren't high enough to justify keeping going, or they couldn't sell ads at a high enough rate to justify production costs. Plus, these days those watching on DVR are not nearly as valuable than those watching live with some percentage of those folks not even bothering with ads.
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Old 05-27-2014, 03:24 PM   #1475
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That's what I'm guessing too. With all the tech in that show (and a show like Intelligence) it probably costs more to produce. And we're not seeing ad rates either. Perhaps they weren't high enough to justify keeping going, or they couldn't sell ads at a high enough rate to justify production costs. Plus, these days those watching on DVR are not nearly as valuable than those watching live with some percentage of those folks not even bothering with ads.
We've also got to remember that when a network decides to cancel a show, it's not always because the show wasn't profitable or that production costs were too high or that ad rates were too low. Prime-time slots on the broadcast networks are a finite commodity. Therefore, any show taking up one of those spots is preventing another show from taking that spot. So if a network exec feels that Show A (even if Show A is profitable) is taking up valuable real estate that could be used by Show B (because the exec thinks Show B will be more profitable that Show A), then the exec will cancel Show A to make room for Show B.

More often than not, Show B does no better than Show A. But the network execs are always trying to find the "next big thing." After airing a few episodes of Show A, it's now a known commodity and if it's not a huge hit, it's unlikely to ever become one. So they're much more likely to cut ties with Show A so they can see what Show B will do, because there is this eternal sense of optimism at the broadcast networks that the next show they premiere will be "the one." And as soon as a show proves that it's not "the one," it is taking up space that could be used for Show C and Show D and Show E that the execs are all sure will be "the one."
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:38 PM   #1476
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The big thing these days is if the show is owned by the network or not. That could be the difference between being picked up and not.

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Old 09-22-2014, 03:40 PM   #1477
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And we're back...

With the Fall Season kicking off last night, it's time to revive the Daily Ratings Thread. I'd had problems keeping it current last spring due to an increased workload, so I solved that by retiring in June. I should be able to post the numbers daily, although at times I find myself busier now than before. But it's a good busy.

Sunday night coming up...
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Old 09-22-2014, 03:48 PM   #1478
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Sunday, September 21, 2014:

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Time     Net    Show                       18-49          Viewers 
7:00PM   CBS    NFL Overrun (7:00PM-8:04)  8.3   27       27.34
         NBC    Football Night in America  1.6    5        5.26
         FOX    Bob's Burgers              0.9    3        2.24
         ABC    AFH Videos -R              0.8    3        4.84
                                                           
7:30PM   NBC    Football Night in America  2.2    7        5.97
         FOX    The Simpsons -R            0.9    3        2.19
                                                           
8:00 PM  NBC    Football Night in America  5.0   15       13.06
         CBS    60 Minutes                 3.6   10       18.27
         FOX    The Simpsons -R            1.3    4        3.07
         ABC    Once Upon A Time -R        0.6    2        2.67
                                                           
8:30PM   NBC    Sunday Night Football      7.2   20       18.03
         FOX    Family Guy -R              1.3    4        2.85
                                                           
9:00PM   CBS    Madam Secretary            2.0    5       14.70
         FOX    Family Guy -R              1.4    4        3.06
         ABC    Resurrection -R            0.5    1        2.51
                                                           
9:30PM   FOX    American Dad               1.4    4        2.97
                                                           
10:00PM  CBS    The Good Wife              1.3    4        9.95
         ABC    Revenge -R                 0.5    1        2.23
Comments:

NBC was number one with adults 18-49 but CBS led with total viewers.

Note: Due to the nature of live sports coverage, ratings for CBS & NBC (NFL Football) are preliminary and likely to change in the final ratings. Due to the NFL overrun, CBS' primetime lineup was delayed in the Eastern and Central Time Zones, with 60 Minutes starting at 8:04, Madam Secretary at 9:04 and The Good Wife at 10:04. Ratings for CBS are tentative and likely to change in the final ratings.

On NBC, Sunday Night Football (Pittsburgh/Carolina) earned a preliminary 7.2, down four tenths from last week's preliminary 7.6 adults 18-49 rating.

On CBS, the season premiere of 60 Minutes scored an NFL-boosted 3.6 adults 18-49 rating. The series premiere of Madam Secretary garnered a 1.9 adults 18-49 rating. UPDATE: We've received time-zone adjusted fast nationals (essentially, finals) and the premiere of Madam Secretary earned a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. Your predictions were about right! The season premiere of The Good Wife earned a 1.3, down two tenths from the 1.5 adults 18-49 rating last season's premiere earned.

On FOX, the FOX finale of American Dad earned a 1.4 adults 18-49 rating, up a tenth from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating.
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Old 09-23-2014, 05:14 PM   #1479
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Monday, September 22, 2014

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Time    Net     Show                    18-49       Viewers 
8:00PM  CBS     The Big Bang Theory     5.3  17     17.80
        NBC     The Voice (8-10PM)      3.9  11     12.70
        FOX     Gotham                  3.2  10      8.00
        ABC     DWTS                    2.0   6     12.00
        CW      Whose Line -R           0.3   1      0.92
           
8:30PM  CBS     The Big Bang Theory     5.4  15     18.00
        CW      Whose Line -R           0.3   1      1.07
                    
9:00PM  CBS     Scorpion                3.3   9     14.00
        FOX     Sleepy Hollow           2.0   5      5.50
        CW      America's Nxt Top Model 0.4   1      1.17
                    
10:00PM NBC     The Blacklist           3.4  10     12.50
        CBS     Under the Dome          1.8   5      7.60
        ABC     Forever                 1.5   4      8.30
Comments:

NBC was number one among adults 18-49 while CBS was on top with total viewers.

Note: The CW was preemted in New York for NFL, in Chicago for MLB, and Pittsburg for Pre-season NHL

On NBC, the fall cycle of The Voice debuted to a 3.9 adults 18-49 rating, way down from last year's 5.1 adults 18-49 rating for the fall cycle. The Blacklist returned to a 3.4 adults 18-49 rating down from the 3.8 the series premiere earned last fall but up from the season one finale's 2.6 adults 18-49 rating.

On CBS, the season premiere of The Big Bang Theory earned a 5.3 adults 18-49 rating. A second episode at 8:30 earned a 5.4 adults 18-49 rating. Both are down from last season's 5.5 & 6.1 adults 18-49 Thursday premiere ratings. Scorpion premiered to a strong 3.3 adults 18-49 rating. The season finale of Under The Dome earned a 1.8, up two tenths from last week's 1.6 adults 18-49 rating.

On FOX, the series premiere of Gotham scored a strong 3.2 adults 18-49 rating. The second season premiere of Sleepy Hollow notched a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating way down from the 3.5 the series premiere earned last year and down from the season one finale, which earned a 2.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On ABC, Dancing with the Stars earned a 2.0, down four tenths from last week's 2.4 adults 18-49 rating. The series premiere of Forever earned a 1.5 adults 18-49 rating.

On The CW, America’s Next Top Model matched last week's 0.4 18-49 adults rating.
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Old 09-23-2014, 05:30 PM   #1481
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The series premiere of Forever earned a 1.5 adults 18-49 rating.
Poor Alana DelaGarza.

I wonder how much Gotham's rating will fall once people figure out that Batman isn't in the show.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:28 PM   #1482
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Poor Alana DelaGarza.

I wonder how much Gotham's rating will fall once people figure out that Batman isn't in the show.
I was wondering if it will rise above The Voice once they release live+7.
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:04 PM   #1483
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Tuesday, September 23, 2014

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Time    Net   Show                18-49         Viewers 
8:00PM  NBC   The Voice (8-10PM)  4.0  13       13.00
        CBS   NCIS                2.9  10       18.00
        ABC   DWTS                1.6   6        9.60
        FOX   Utopia              0.8   3        1.90
        CW    Arrow -R            0.3   1        0.70
        
9:00PM  CBS   NCIS: New Orleans   2.5   7       17.10
        ABC   Marvel's SHIELD     1.9   6        5.60
        FOX   New Girl            1.3   4        2.30
        CW    Supernatural -R     0.3   1        0.66
                  
9:30PM  FOX   The Mindy Project   1.0   3        2.10
                  
10:00PM NBC   Chicago Fire        2.7   8        9.40
        CBS   Person Of Interest  1.8   5       10.70
        ABC   Forever             1.7   5        6.50
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NBC was the number one network in adults 18-49, but CBS led with with total viewers.

Note: The CW was preempted in Chicago for MLB Baseball

On NBC, the Tuesday premiere of The Voice earned a 4.0 adults 18-49 rating, up a tenth from yesterday's 3.9 adults 18-49 rating. The third season premiere of Chicago Fire matched last season's 2.7 adults 18-49 premiere rating.

the season premiere of NCIS earned a 2.9 adults 18-49 rating, down from the 3.6 last season's premiere earned. The series premiere of NCIS: New Orleans earned a 2.5 adults 18-49 rating. The fourth season premiere of Person Of Interest earned a 1.8 adults 18-49 rating, down from the 2.3 adults 18-49 rating the third season premiere earned.

On ABC, Dancing with the Stars garnered a 1.6, down six tenths from last week's 2.2 adults 18-49 rating. The second season premiere of Marvels Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. earned a 1.9, way down from the series premiere's 4.7 adults 18-49 rating and down a tenth from the 2.0 adults 18-49 rating last season's finale earned. Your predictions were too optimistic. The regular timeslot premiere of Forever matched yesterday's 1.7 adults 18-49 rating.

On FOX,Utopia notched a 0.8, down two tenths from last week's 1.0 adults 18-49 rating. New Girl earned a 1.3, down four tenths from last week's 1.7 adults 18-49 rating. The Mindy Project earned a 1.0, down three tenths from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating.
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The final Tuesday numbers are in and here are the adjustments.

Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was adjusted up two tenths and Dancing with the Stars, The Voice and Forever were adjusted up a single tenth while Chicago Fire and Person Of Interest were adjusted down a tenth among adults 18-49 versus the preliminary Tuesday broadcast ratings.
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Wednesday, September 24, 2014

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Time    Net     Show                    18-49       Viewers 
8:00PM  CBS     Survivor (8-9:30)       2.7   9       9.65
        ABC     The Middle              2.1   8       7.39
        NBC     The Mysteries of Laura  1.5   5       9.90
        FOX     Hell's Kitchen          1.3   5       3.70
        CW      Penn & Teller: Fool Us  0.5   2       1.51
        
9:30PM  ABC     The Goldbergs           2.3   6       6.97
                    
9:00PM  ABC     Modern Family           3.7  11      10.93
        NBC     Law And Order: SVU      2.1   6      10.10
        FOX     Red Band Society        1.0   3       3.40
        CW      P & T: Fool Us -R       0.4   1       1.38
            
9:30PM  ABC     black-ish               3.3  10      10.79
        CBS     Big Brother (9:30-11PM) 2.6   8       7.00
                    
10:00PM NBC     Chicago PD              1.9   6       8.40
        ABC     Nashville               1.5   5       5.60
Comments:

CBS was number one in Adults 18- 49 while NBC led with total viewers.

On CBS, the season premiere of Survivor earned a 2.7 adults 18-49 rating, up a tenth from last year's fall cycle premiere, which earned a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating. The season finale of just renewed Big Brother earned a 2.6, up four tenths from last week's 2.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On ABC the season premiere of The Middle earned a 2.1 adults 18-49 rating, down from the 2.5 last season's premiere earned but even with last season's finale. The season and time period debut of The Goldbergs earned a 2.3 adults 18-49, down from the 3.1 its series premiere earned but up from its season finale last year, which earned a 1.5 adults 18-49 rating. Modern Family's season premiere earned a 3.7 adults 18-49 rating, down from the 4.2 adults 18-49 last season's hour-long premiere earned but even with last season's finale. The series premiere of black-ish earned a 3.3 adults 18-49 rating. Your predictions were too pessimistic. The season premiere of Nashville earned a 1.5 adults 18-49 rating, down from the 2.0 adults 18-49 rating last year's premiere earned but up from the 1.3 adults 18-49 rating last year's finale earned.

On NBC, The Mysteries of Laura earned a 1.5, down half a ratings point from the 2.0 adults 18-49 rating that last week's premiere earned. The season premiere of Law And Order SVU earned a 2.1, down six tenths from last season's 2.7 two hour season premiere rating but up from the 1.6 adults 18-49 rating last season's finale earned. The season premiere of Chicago P.D. earned a 1.9 adults 18-49 rating, down a tenth from the 2.0 the series premiere earned (when it aired in January) but up from the 1.6 adults 18-49 rating the season finale earned.

On FOX, Hell's Kitchen scored a 1.3, down a tenth from last week's 1.4 adults 18-49. Red Band Society notched a 1.0, down three tenths from the 1.3 adults 18-49 rating last week's premiere earned.

On CW, Penn & Teller: Fool Us matched last week's 0.5 adults 18-49 rating.
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Wednesday Final Ratings: 'The Middle', 'The Goldbergs', 'Modern Family', 'Law and Order: SVU', & 'Red Band Society' Adjusted Up

Modern Family was adjusted up two tenths while The Middle, The Goldbergs, Law And Order: SVU and Red Band Society were each adjusted up a single tenth among adults 18-49 versus the preliminary Wednesday broadcast ratings.
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Old 09-26-2014, 04:07 PM   #1487
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Thursday, September 25, 2014 #092514
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Time    Net     Show                    18-49      Viewers
8:00PM  ABC     Grey's Anatomy          3.1   11     10.14
        CBS     Thur Nt Fb Kickoff      2.2    9      7.20
        FOX     Bones                   1.6    5      6.34
        NBC     The Biggest Loser       1.3    4      4.47
        CW      The Vampire Diaries -R  0.2    1      0.61
                    
8:30PM  CBS     Thursday Night Fball    6.0   19     16.29
            
9:00PM  ABC     Scandal                 3.9   11     12.16
        FOX     Sleepy Hollow -R        0.6    2      2.28
        CW      The Originals           0.2    1      0.50
                    
10:00PM ABC     How to Get Away W/Murder3.9   12     14.34
        NBC     Parenthood              1.4    4      4.26

Comments:

CBS was number one among adults 18-49, but ABC led with total viewers.

NOTE: Due to the nature of live programming the ratings for CBS are approximate and subject to more than the typical adjustments in the final numbers.

On CBS, NFL Kickoff earned a preliminary 2.7, up from last week's 2.3 adults 18-49 rating. Thursday Night Football scored a preliminary 4.5, up from last week's 3.3 adults 18-49 rating.


On ABC the season premiere of Grey's Anatomy in its new timeslot earned a 3.0 adults 18-49 rating, down from the 3.4 last year's two hour premiere earned but up from the 2.6 last season's finale earned. The 9PM season premiere of Scandal earned a series-best 3.8 adults 18-49 rating, up from the season 3 premiere which earned a 3.6 adults 18-49 rating and from the 3.4 last season's finale earned. The series premiere of How to Get Away With Murder earned a 3.8 adults 18-49 rating, your predictions were too pessimistic.

On NBC, The Biggest Loser matched last week's series low 1.3 adults 18-49 rating. The season premiere of Parenthood's final season earned a 1.4 adults 18-49 rating, down from the 1.6 adults 18-49 rating last season's premiere earned but up from the 1.3 last season's finale earned.

On FOX, the season premiere of Bones earned a 1.6 adults 18-49 rating down from the 2.3 adults 18-49 rating last season's premiere earned, but even with last season's finale.

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Thursday Final Ratings: 'Grey's Anatomy', 'Scandal' & 'How to Get Away With Murder' Adjusted Up + Final Football Numbers

[ed: I've adjusted the ratings in the post above to reflect the final numbers, but left the original comments as is. In the future, I will attempt to post final ratings only, which means later in the day.]

Grey's Anatomy, Scandal and How to Get Away With Murder were each adjusted up a tenth among adults 18-49 versus Thursday's preliminary ratings. Final football numbers are also shown.

Note: the final ratings below for Thursday Night Football represent the combined ratings of the game on BOTH the NFL Network and CBS. To pre-empt the "Why/How Can They Do That?" questions, the airings on both networks contain the exact same ads, and TV ratings are all about measuring the number of people that watch the ads for pricing purposes.
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Thursday Final Ratings: 'Grey's Anatomy', 'Scandal' & 'How to Get Away With Murder' Adjusted Up + Final Football Numbers

[ed: I've adjusted the ratings in the post above to reflect the final numbers, but left the original comments as is. In the future, I will attempt to post final ratings only, which means later in the day.]

Grey's Anatomy, Scandal and How to Get Away With Murder were each adjusted up a tenth among adults 18-49 versus Thursday's preliminary ratings. Final football numbers are also shown.

Note: the final ratings below for Thursday Night Football represent the combined ratings of the game on BOTH the NFL Network and CBS. To pre-empt the "Why/How Can They Do That?" questions, the airings on both networks contain the exact same ads, and TV ratings are all about measuring the number of people that watch the ads for pricing purposes.
Are there no local ad breaks during Thursday Night NFL games on CBS? So, the affiliates don't make any money those nights?
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Are there no local ad breaks during Thursday Night NFL games on CBS? So, the affiliates don't make any money those nights?
I'm sure there are local ad breaks, but for purposes of this thread, we don't care about that. We're concerned with ratings to see how it affects shows and the decisions made by the networks. Not how it affects the revenue of the CBS affiliate in Des Moines.
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Debated starting a separate thread for this (and may still do so), but figured the folks who follow this thread would appreciate this info, since it's the ratings and especially the demos that determine ad prices.

Variety just released its annual list of TV ad prices:

http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/tv-a...st-1201314484/

Here's the list of what a 30-second spot costs for shows on the broadcast nets (spoiled for length):

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BROADCAST SERIES, NIGHT BY NIGHT:

SUNDAY


ABC
America’s Funniest Home Videos: $55,929
Once Upon A Time: $145,582
Galavant (midseason): $72,400
Resurrection: $146,676
American Crime (midseason): $93,475
Revenge: $115,224

CBS
60 Minutes: $97,433
Madam Secretary: $81,515
The Good Wife: $88,867
CSI: $96,747

FOX
Bob’s Burgers: $95,233
The Simpsons: $205,885
Brooklyn Nine-Nine: $150,367
Family Guy: $160,240
Mulaney: $120,579
Weird Loners (midseason): $114,993

NBC
Football Night in America: $90,233
Football Night in America 2: $132,770
NBC Sunday Night Football: $623,425

MONDAY

ABC
Dancing With the Stars: $127,617
The Bachelor (midseason): $115,105
Castle: $148,012

CBS
The Big Bang Theory: $327,885
2 Broke Girls: $166,533
Mom: $148,935
Scorpion: $146,272
NCIS: Los Angeles: $126,533

FOX
Gotham: $192,111
Wayward Pines: $159,992
Sleepy Hollow: $188,232
The Following: $168,437

NBC
The Voice: $262,041
The Blacklist: $284,586
State of Affairs (midseason): $224,060
The Apprentice: $64,900
Aquarius (midseason): $132,500

CW
The Originals: $33,961
Jane The Virgin: $22,803

TUESDAY

ABC
Selfie: $66,704
Manhattan Love Story: $62,370
Fresh Off The Boat (midseason): $67,642
Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: $154,374
Marvel’s Agent Carter: $142,758
Forever: $82,815

CBS
NCIS: $143,204
NCIS: New Orleans: $125,382
Person of Interest: $132,738

FOX
Utopia: $145,789
New Girl: $176,280
The Mindy Project: $123,632
Last Man on Earth (midseason): $117,170

NBC
The Voice: $254,485
Marry Me: $117,461
One Big Happy (midseason): $90,000
About A Boy: $109,791
Mission Control (midseason): $145,000
Chicago Fire: $144,177

CW
The Flash: $56,378
Supernatural: $42,598

WEDNESDAY

ABC
The Middle: $131.021
The Goldbergs: $108,069
Modern Family: $226,935
Black-ish: $131,160
Nashville: $104,511
Whispers (midseason): $104,812

CBS
Survivor: $121,638
Criminal Minds: $131,963
Stalker: $113,817

FOX
Hell’s Kitchen: $109,440
American Idol (midseason): $266,333
Red Band Society: $117,232
Empire (midseason): $138,200

NBC
Mysteries of Laura: $84,465
Law & Order: SVU: $92,207
Chicago P.D.: $121,400

CW
Arrow: $49,799
The 100: $27,725

THURSDAY

ABC
Grey’s Anatomy: $159,411
The Taste (midseason): $49,275
Scandal: $217,423
How To Get Away With Murder: $164,938
Secrets & Lies (midseason): $98,000

CBS
NFL Thursday Night Football: $492,500
The Big Bang Theory (post-football): $322,891
The Millers (ost-football): $135,283
Two and A Half Men (post-football): $147,442
The McCarthys (post-football): $120,977
Elementary (post-football): $125,526

FOX
Bones: $124,093
American Idol (midseason): $249,566
Gracepoint: $162,717
Glee (midseason): $125,075

NBC
The Biggest Loser: $88,837
Parks & Recreation (midseason): $110,000
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt (midseason): $71,666
Bad Judge: $91,000
A to Z: $91,580
The Blacklist (midseason): $200,166
Parenthood: $96,066
Allegiance (midseason): $122,850

CW
The Vampire Diaries: $71,965
Reign: $29,848

FRIDAY

ABC
Last Man Standing: $68,437
Cristela: $75,607
Shark Tank: $118,229
20/20: $68,420

CBS
The Amazing Race: $74,579
Hawaii Five-0: $69,128
Blue Bloods: $84,850

FOX
Masterchef Junior: $99,296
Utopia: $81,341
Backstrom (midseason): $89,890

NBC
Dateline NBC: $49,200
Grimm: $117,877
Constantine: $84,826

CW
Whose Line Is It Anyway: $26,255
Whose Line Repeat: $26,650
America’s Next Top Model: $26,114

SATURDAY

ABC
Saturday Night College Football: $159,916
Saturday Night Movie: $25,891

CBS
Crimetime Saturday: $22,212
Crimetime Saturday 2: $24,517
48 Hours: $33,163

Fox
Sports: $83,300
Drama Repeats 8 p.m.: $28,473
Drama Repeats 9 p.m.: $28,473

NBC
Encores 8 p.m.: $19,304
Encores 9 p.m.: $19,495
Saturday Night Live Encores: $26,500

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Old 09-26-2014, 11:43 PM   #1492
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I'm sure there are local ad breaks, but for purposes of this thread, we don't care about that. We're concerned with ratings to see how it affects shows and the decisions made by the networks. Not how it affects the revenue of the CBS affiliate in Des Moines.
Networks are now looking more at live+7 data so the overnights alone aren't going to paint the full picture any longer.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...season/304310/

“L7 and C7 are the metrics that more accurately account for how viewers watch our shows and how we get paid for our programming – both in advertising and content licensing,” said Leslie Moonves, President and Chief Executive Officer, CBS Corporation. “C7 deals were a significant part of our Upfront negotiations this year, and we are doing more and more C7 deals all of the time. As new technologies continue to improve audience measurement across all platforms, these more precise metrics are becoming the industry standard, benefitting advertisers and content providers alike.”
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Yes, it was pretty big news when CBS got some advertisers to pay based on C7 numbers this year, as this was the first time anyone had been able to do that, despite the industry pushing that for a while.

I recently saw where some cable networks aren't even going to send out L+SD data in press releases anymore, but will instead wait until L+3 or L+7 numbers are in before touting their shows.
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Friday, September 26 2014

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Time    Net   Show                    18-49         Viewers 
8:00PM  ABC   Shark Tank (8-10PM)     1.8   7        7.10
        CBS   The Amazing Race        1.1   4        5.50
        NBC   The Myst of Laura -R    0.7   3        4.80
        FOX   Utopia                  0.7   3        1.90
        CW    Masters of Illusion     0.3   1        1.10
                  
8:30PM  CW    Whose Line  -R          0.3   1        0.90
                  
9:00PM  NBC   Dateline (9-11PM)       1.4   5        6.90
        CBS   Hawaii Five-0           1.3   4        8.90
        FOX   Gotham -R               0.7   2        2.50
        CW    Amer Nxt Tp Mdl -R      0.2   1        0.59
                  
10:00PM ABC   20 /20                  1.6   6        6.40
        CBS   Blue Bloods             1.2   4       10.60
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ABC number one in adults 18-49 while CBS won with total viewers.

On ABC, the two-hour season premiere of Shark Tank earned a 1.8 adults 18-49 rating, even with last season's premiere. 20/20 earned a 1.6, up from last week's 1.0 adults 18-49 rating.

On CBS, the season premiere of The Amazing Race earned a 1.1, way down from last fall's 2.0 adults 18-49 premiere rating (when it debuted on a Sunday) and last spring's 1.5 adults 18-49 premiere rating. Hawaii Five-0 notched a 1.3 adults 18-49 rating, down from its last season premiere's 1.6 adults 18-49 rating. The season premiere of Blue Bloods notched an 1.2 adults 18-49 rating, down from the 1.7 its last season premiere earned.

On NBC, Dateline earned a 1.4, up two tenths from last week's 1.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On FOX, Utopia scored a 0.7, up two tenths from last week's series low 0.5 adults 18-49 rating.

On the CW, Masters of Illusion earned a 0.3, down a tenth from last week's 0.4 adults 18-49 rating.
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Final broadcast primetime ratings for Sunday, September 28, 2014 #092814

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Time  Net   Show                        18-49      Viewers 
7:00  FOX   NFL Football - Live         9.0/34     25.82
      ABC   Once Upon A Time/Clip Show  1.6/5       5.49
      CBS   60 Minutes                  1.1/4       9.68
            
7:30  NBC   Football Night Part 2       1.2/4       3.83
            
8:00  NBC   Football Night Part 3       4.6/14     13.01
      FOX   The Simpsons                3.9/11      8.53
      ABC   Once Upon A Time            3.4/10     10.20
      CBS   Madam Secretary             1.4/4      12.72
            
8:30  NBC   Sunday Night Football       8.7/25     22.68
      FOX   Brooklyn Nine-Nine          2.6/7       5.46
            
9:00  FOX   Family Guy                  4.5/12      8.45
      ABC   Resurrection                2.5/7       8.38
      CBS   The Good Wife               1.3/4      11.09
            
10:00 ABC   Revenge                     1.5/5       5.71
      CBS   CSI                         1.3/4       9.36

Revisions:
Once Upon A Time and Resurrection were each adjusted up three tenth and Revenge was adjusted up a single tenth while CSI was adjusted down a single tenth among adults 18-49 versus Sunday's preliminary ratings.

Preliminary:
NBC was number one with adults 18-49 and with total viewers.

Note: Due to the nature of live sports coverage, ratings for CBS, FOX & NBC (NFL Football) are preliminary and likely to change in the final ratings. Due to the NFL overrun, CBS' primetime lineup was delayed in multiple markets in the Eastern and Central Time Zones, with 60 Minutes starting at 7:15, Madam Secretary at 8:15, The Good Wife at 9:15 and CSI at 10:15. Ratings for CBS are tentative and likely to change in the final ratings.

On NBC, Sunday Night Football (Saints/Cowboys) earned a preliminary 7.6, up 6 percent from last week's preliminary 7.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On FOX, NFL Football earned a preliminary 7.3 adults 18-49 rating. The season premiere of The Simpsons scored a 3.9 adults 18-49 rating , up 34 percent from a 2.9 for the previous season premiere and up 144 percent from a 1.6 for the previous season finale. It was the show's highest rated premiere in three years. The season two premiere of Brooklyn Nine-Nine garnered a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating, even with its season one premiere and up 100 percent from a 1.3 for its season one finale. The season premiere of Family Guy, which was an hour-long crossover with The Simpsons, notched a 4.5 adults 18-49 rating, up 73 percent from a 2.6 for the previous season premiere and up a 125 percent from a 2.0 for the previous season finale. It ranked as Family Guy’s highest rated premiere since 2010.

On ABC, the season four premiere of Once Upon A Time scored a 3.4 adults 18-49 rating up 31 percent from a 2.6 for the season three premiere and up 48 percent from a 2.3 for the season three finale. Your predictions (and our poll choices) were far too pessimistic. The season two premiere of Resurrection garnered a 2.2 adults 18-49 rating, down 42 percent from a 3.8 for the season one premiere (which aired last March) and up 5 percent from a 2.1 for the season finale. The season four premiere of Revenge notched a 1.4 adults 18-49 rating, down 39 percent from a 2.3 for the season three premiere and even with the season three finale.

On CBS, 60 Minutes scored a 1.1, down 69 percent from last week’ s NFL boosted 3.5 adults 18-49 rating. Madam Secretary garnered a 1.4, down 30 percent from a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating for last week’s premiere. The Good Wife earned a 1.3, down 7 percent from a 1.4 adults 18-49 rating for last week’s premiere. The season premiere of CSI notched a series low 1.4 adults 18-49 rating, down 30 percent from a 2.0 for the previous season premiere.
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Can't imagine CBS will be content to be in 4th place on Sunday's, especially when Sundays are the place where most networks stick their most prestigious shows.
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Final broadcast primetime ratings for Monday, September 29, 2014 #092914
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Time    Net     Show                    18-49          Viewers 
8:00    CBS     The Big Bang Theory     4.8   15       16.38
        NBC     The Voice               4.0   11       12.94
        FOX     Gotham                  2.8   8         7.45
        ABC     DWTS                    1.8   5        12.50
        CW      iHeartradio             0.3   1         0.82
                
8:30    CBS     The Big Bang Theory-R   3.1   9        12.26
                
9:00    CBS     Scorpion                3.1   8        13.36
        FOX     Sleepy Hollow           1.7   5         5.04
                
10:00   NBC     The Blacklist           2.8   8        10.51
        ABC     Castle                  2.2   6        10.75
        CBS     NCIS: Los Angeles       1.9   6         9.48
Revisions:
The Big Bang Theory, The Voice, and Scorpion were each adjusted up a tenth while Dancing with the Stars was adjusted down a tenth and Castle was adjusted down two tenths among adults 18-49 versus Monday's preliminary ratings.

Preliminary:
NBC was number one among adults 18-49 while CBS was on top with total viewers.

Note: ABC's programming was preempted for NFL Football in Boston and Kansas City. ABC's ratings are likely inflated and subject to adjustment in the final ratings.

On NBC, The Voice earned a 3.9 adults 18-49 rating, even with last week’s premiere. The Blacklist scored a 2.8 adults 18-49 rating, down 18 percent from a 3.4 for last week’s premiere.

On CBS, The Big Bang Theory garnered a 4.7 adults 18-49 rating, down 13 percent from a 5.4 for last week’s premiere. Scorpion notched a 3.0 adults 18-49 rating, down 6 percent from a 3.2 for last week’s premiere. The season premiere of NCIS: Los Angeles earned a 1.9 adults 18-49 rating, down 37 percent from a 3.0 for the previous season premiere and down a 2.5 for the season finale.

On FOX, Gotham scored a 2.8 adults 18-49 rating, down 13 percent from a 3.2 for last week’s premiere. Your predictions were slightly too optimistic. Sleepy Hollow notched a 1.7 adults 18-49 rating, down 15 percent from a 2.0 for last week’s premiere.

On ABC, Dancing with the Stars earned a 1.9, down 14 percent from last week's 2.2 adults 18-49 rating. The season premiere of Castle garnered a possibly inflated 2.4 adults 18-49 rating, up 9 percent from a 2.2 for the previous season premiere and up 14 percent from a 2.1 for the season finale.

On The CW, night one of the iHeartradio Music Festival matched last year's 0.3 18-49 adults rating.
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Can't imagine CBS will be content to be in 4th place on Sunday's, especially when Sundays are the place where most networks stick their most prestigious shows.
Any doubt now why CBS likes those national football overruns? They ALWAYS help their ratings Sunday nights. For those of us who complain about them, this is proof positive why they will NEVER change what they do on Sunday nights.
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Any doubt now why CBS likes those national football overruns? They ALWAYS help their ratings Sunday nights. For those of us who complain about them, this is proof positive why they will NEVER change what they do on Sunday nights.
Not sure how that applies in this situation. CBS was delayed this past Sunday and still had horrible numbers.
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Not sure how that applies in this situation. CBS was delayed this past Sunday and still had horrible numbers.
CBS had the single game this past weekend so they didn't have the football overrun that they do when they have a doubleheader. The only late CBS game this past week was Jacksonville and San Diego which isn't shown in that much of the country so the Sunday CBS shows didn't have strong lead in like they do when CBS has a popular late Sunday game.
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