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Old 05-14-2015, 02:10 PM   #1
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Chime in! Flash, Gotham, Arrow, and other comic based shows.

So, do you have comic book knowledge or not and post to a comic based TV thread? Answer no if you choose to not post because of spoilery stuff in the thread. Includes material based on comic book characters from other sources like cartoons, movies, and radio plays.

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Old 05-14-2015, 02:16 PM   #2
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Stopped reading comics in grade school....
Not the point unless you can't remember anything you read.

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does it have to be DIRECT comic book knowledge from reading the comics yourself or can in be indirect? i.e. a movie or TV show based off of a comic. Or reading something on internet that refers to the comic.

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Old 05-14-2015, 02:18 PM   #5
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Not the point unless you can't remember anything you read.
yes, i should have added "and i'm old with a bad memory"

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Old 05-14-2015, 02:19 PM   #6
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Not sure how to vote in the poll. I post in threads for shows I watch, regardless of what I know or don't know about the source material. In the case of comics, I know nothing since I haven't picked one up since the 60s.

In fact, I've been surprised to find out some of the shows I've watched came from comics. I never knew there was a Walking Dead comic until after I'd watched enough episodes to come here and see if there what people were saying. Same for some movies (Watchmen, for example) - I never knew the source until after I'd seen it.

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does it have to be DIRECT comic book knowledge from reading the comics yourself or can in be indirect? i.e. a movie or TV show based off of a comic. Or reading something on internet that refers to the comic.
I suppose any knowledge of the character outside the show would count as a yes.

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Not sure how to vote in the poll. I post in threads for shows I watch, regardless of what I know or don't know about the source material. In the case of comics, I know nothing since I haven't picked one up since the 60s.

In fact, I've been surprised to find out some of the shows I've watched came from comics. I never knew there was a Walking Dead comic until after I'd watched enough episodes to come here and see if there what people were saying. Same for some movies (Watchmen, for example) - I never knew the source until after I'd seen it.
That's happened to me as well, but those are one off shows that build on a single series. The characters in question have had multiple reboots, stories, cartoons, books, etc.

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Old 05-14-2015, 02:23 PM   #9
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I have never read a comic book in my life. I have however watched cartoons and movies based on them for as long as I can remember.

I don't really read or post in threads in this forum a ton. I do from time to time when a particular episodes gets me fired up.

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Not sure how to vote in the poll. I post in threads for shows I watch, regardless of what I know or don't know about the source material. In the case of comics, I know nothing since I haven't picked one up since the 60s.

In fact, I've been surprised to find out some of the shows I've watched came from comics. I never knew there was a Walking Dead comic until after I'd watched enough episodes to come here and see if there what people were saying. Same for some movies (Watchmen, for example) - I never knew the source until after I'd seen it.
I'm the same way. I know somethings about the "Gotham" characters. I go into the thread knowing there will be tons of talk about stuff from all sorts of sources. Comics. Movies. TV. Whatever. Really, it doesn't matter. But I except this in a thread like that. and I accept it. But I know not everyone does accept it.


I didn't know Walking Dead was a comic. But I don't watch the show so I don't read the threads. I have no idea what goes on in there and am not totally sure how I would react if people talked about the comic.

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Old 05-14-2015, 02:26 PM   #11
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I do not read comics, and have stopped participating in the threads because of all the untagged spoilers based on the comics.

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I do not read comics, and have stopped participating in the threads because of all the what I consider untagged spoilers based on the comics.
Fixed your post.

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Old 05-14-2015, 02:31 PM   #13
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I only read Marvel comics, 25-30 years ago, so the only show the really applies is Agents of Shield and the MarvelMovieVerse. I watch Flash/Arrow/iZombie/Gotham/Constantine but have never read any of the source material. I have seen Batman movies and the old tv show, and as a kid watched the Justice League cartoon.

I don't care if I am spoiled. Hearing histories of some of these heroes with extremely lengthy, rich legends is cool, IMO (Flash, Arrow, Batman). Spoilers certainly won't keep me from participating in the threads.

I was kind of hoping the new DC-based show on CW would be Green Lantern, 'cause his legend seems intriguing too.

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Fixed your post.
Fixed it wrong. If they are spoilers to me, they are spoilers to me. You don't get to decide what is a spoiler to me because you think it isn't. Especially when the rules are pretty damn clear about outside sources. But let's keep this discussion in the other thread, please.

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Old 05-14-2015, 02:37 PM   #15
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What if a show has a couple of characters who speak in Spanish, and doesn't provide sub-titles?

Then Eddy and other people who speak Spanish know what they said, but only from "outside sources" and that translation would now qualify as a spoiler.

Or what if a show takes a trip to San Juan? And people post that they've been to those actual places. That's knowledge outside the show and qualifies as a spoiler, according to the rules.

But I don't think either should require spoiler tags.

There were two shows on TV last year that had characters who, in the comics, eventually became "The Spectre", a very powerful supernatural entity. In at least one of those shows I would put the chances of that character becoming the Spectre at less than 1%. (It's higher in the other). The Spectre doesn't fit into that show, and I can't imagine they would have an appearance. It's a reference for comic book geeks, and no more. Can we talk about it? It's not going to affect the show at all, but it's *fun* for the comic book geeks to get the references and chat about them.

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I only read Marvel comics, 25-30 years ago, so the only show the really applies is Agents of Shield and the MarvelMovieVerse. I watch Flash/Arrow/iZombie/Gotham/Constantine but have never read any of the source material. I have seen Batman movies and the old tv show, and as a kid watched the Justice League cartoon.

I don't care if I am spoiled. Hearing histories of some of these heroes with extremely lengthy, rich legends is cool, IMO (Flash, Arrow, Batman). Spoilers certainly won't keep me from participating in the threads.

I was kind of hoping the new DC-based show on CW would be Green Lantern, 'cause his legend seems intriguing too.
Like you my DC FU is weak and with CRISIS happening since I actually read anything DC I'm so not in the loop knowledge wise. OTOH my Marvel FU is strong so it's very hard to spoil anything Marvel to me for the mainstream characters and plots.

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What if a show has a couple of characters who speak in Spanish, and doesn't provide sub-titles?

Then Eddy and other people who speak Spanish know what they said, but only from "outside sources" and that translation would now qualify as a spoiler.
It was in the show, it is not a spoiler.

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Or what if a show takes a trip to San Juan? And people post that they've been to those actual places. That's knowledge outside the show and qualifies as a spoiler, according to the rules.
If it has nothing to do with the plot, it is not a spoiler.

Anyone can come up with ridiculous use cases.

The show does not say that they are breathing oxygen, but the biology classes I took make it clear they are breathing. OMG!!!!! SPOILER!!!!!

See, I can be ridiculous too.

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It was in the show, it is not a spoiler.


If it has nothing to do with the plot, it is not a spoiler.

Anyone can come up with ridiculous use cases.

The show does not say that they are breathing oxygen, but the biology classes I took make it clear they are breathing. OMG!!!!! SPOILER!!!!!

See, I can be ridiculous too.
The morse code at the beginning of Jericho?

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The morse code at the beginning of Jericho?
I think that is no different than knowing English. Or Spanish. Or any other language or code.

What about when you see computer code on the screen? What i something is "coded" in their to reveal something interesting. To me, not a spoiler. It's no different than a shot of something in more clear English.

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The morse code at the beginning of Jericho?
Is is there for everyone to hear? Part of the show? Morse code is a standard? Not even remotely a spoiler.

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I do want to say this.

I think most of us with comic book knowledge actually try pretty hard to avoid posting things that we think might be spoilers in the show. We don't try as hard to put 70 years worth of comic stories that AREN'T likely to be in the show in spoilers.

None of us WANTS to ruin your enjoyment of the show. We usually believe our comments enhance that enjoyment.


<rest of post moved to the other thread as suggested by Eddy>

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Ereth, the main duscussion is here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...php?p=10506402

If you want to move the comments. Or not.

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See, I can be ridiculous too.
I think it's ridiculous, too, but it does qualify as requiring knowledge from outside the show, so a strict interpretation of the rules would make it a spoiler.

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Ereth, the main duscussion is here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...php?p=10506402

If you want to move the comments. Or not.
Am I in the wrong thread? I thought my post was appropriate here, but if it's not, I apologize.

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Am I in the wrong thread? I thought my post was appropriate here, but if it's not, I apologize.
Not wrong, it was a spin-off, so there is some overlap. But the main discussion about what is/should be a spoiler is on the other thread.

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a thread is like a comic book. It changes from what the original creator laid out.

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This poll is confusing. I post to TV show threads for shows like Gotham but I don't have comic knowledge or read them. I appreciate the people who do have that knowledge and want to speculate about what's going to happen based on their comic reading, but if the whole thread turns into that comic speculation, it can detract from discussing the actual episode.

I realize the whole thing is a very complicated situation. Discussions mostly involve speculation about what's going to happen next and just because somebody has knowledge of a past telling of a story with the same characters, I don't think they should have to stay out of threads and post all their speculation as spoiler tags.

Though if somebody KNOWS what is going to happen, then it's bad form to ruin the surprise for others.

Again, a pretty complicated situation.

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I realize the whole thing is a very complicated situation. Discussions mostly involve speculation about what's going to happen next and just because somebody has knowledge of a past telling of a story with the same characters, I don't think they should have to stay out of threads and post all their speculation as spoiler tags.

Though if somebody KNOWS what is going to happen, then it's bad form to ruin the surprise for others.

Again, a pretty complicated situation.
+1. That's my opinion at least. I also think that promotional material for the show should be included as non-spoilery.

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I don't know all the comics. I'm more of a DC fan than Marvel, so I'm pretty ignorant about Daredevil (though I will admit that I liked the movie. I think. It's been a while) and other Marvel properties (though I did like the FF a lot). I'm still upset City of Heroes got canned.

But anyway, I post in some threads because I really like the character and like to talk about the show and how well they translate him/her from the comics.

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I haven't read comics since I was a kid. I've seen quite a few superhero movies though, so I have a passing idea about them (more of a pop culture knowledge). I voted no. I only watch Gotham of the current group of comic book shows on, and I feel it's less a comic book show as a crime story with comic book elements written into the story. My eyes do kind of gloss over when posters start talking about all the comic book universes and mention more obscure characters (well those more known to comic book readers). But I don't mind some added knowledge when it is directly mentioned in the show.

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