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Old 05-20-2014, 11:18 AM   #1
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"24 - LAD" --- Was it always this bad?

I'm watching 24 because - well, actually I don't have a good excuse. I watched it before so I'm watching it again. But really - the plot and the dialog both seem to have been written by and for 12 year olds. Or is it just me?

I remember it was always pretty silly and the plots never stood up to any scrutiny whatsoever - but was it always this cheesy? They seem to feel they can do anything or say anything and the audience will simply accept it at face value. They don't even try to get the simplest of details right (ie, toward the end of the episode you saw "upload aborted" on the computer display. He wasn't uploading - he was decrypting - and they made that very clear - to everyone except themselves, I guess )

Ahh well - I'm still waiting for the first: "TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW" (because yelling always makes the bad guys talk ).
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:36 AM   #2
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I'm still trying to figure out why Jack actually shot the 2 innocent civilians last episode. Same thing could have been accomplished with just shooting into the ground or air.


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Old 05-20-2014, 11:44 AM   #3
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I find the characters to be weak/thin this season. Is everyone but Jack,Chloe and Kate Morgan a complete and predictable DOLT?
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:48 AM   #4
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I think the answer is "Yes" - it's always been this way - but we used to be more forgiving, because TV has actually got a lot better over the past 10 years or so.
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:53 AM   #5
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:27 PM   #6
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I find the characters to be weak/thin this season. Is everyone but Jack,Chloe and Kate Morgan a complete and predictable DOLT?
This season? IIRC, everyone but Jack, Chloe, and a few others were always complete and predictable dolts.
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:29 PM   #7
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Spoiler thread ?
Yeah, I see this as a non-spoiler thread, about 24 in general. We need a separate thread for yesterday's ep.
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:32 PM   #8
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Since this is not an episode specific thread, I wasn't anticipating spoilers. I have not watched last night's episode yet. Perhaps it's my fault for clicking on this thread in the first place, but curiosity got the better of me.
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:40 PM   #9
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I'm still trying to figure out why Jack actually shot the 2 innocent civilians last episode. Same thing could have been accomplished with just shooting into the ground or air.


Still love the show!
if he shoots them in the leg then he controls where the bullet goes

if he shoots the pavement the bullet could ricochet and hit anywhere

if he shoots in the air the bullet could come down anywhere (its basically a missile)

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/201...et-celebratory

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ticle-1.994626

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-display.html
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:47 PM   #10
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There has been no episode where a mountain lion threatens Jack's daughter so this is one of the better seasons
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:06 PM   #11
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I'm still trying to figure out why Jack actually shot the 2 innocent civilians last episode. Same thing could have been accomplished with just shooting into the ground or air.
Obviously I wouldn't condone what he did in real life.. but shooting them in the legs made them fall, which made the rest of the people scatter more and charge into the building.. I think more so than a random shot into the air.
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Old 05-21-2014, 04:49 AM   #12
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24 has always been like this.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:38 AM   #13
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He wasn't uploading - he was decrypting - and they made that very clear - to everyone except themselves, I guess )

Ahh well - I'm still waiting for the first: "TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW" (because yelling always makes the bad guys talk ).
As a retired computer programmer, it is quite possible to write a program that decrypts a file record by record and uploads each record to another computer as soon as it has been decrypted.

That way, at least part of the file would have still been transmitted before the decryption was interrupted.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:41 AM   #14
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Since this is not an episode specific thread, I wasn't anticipating spoilers. I have not watched last night's episode yet. Perhaps it's my fault for clicking on this thread in the first place, but curiosity got the better of me.
I assumed LAD was the episode title.

Still the original poster should have followed our convention and included a original air date. And personally I think he/she should refrain from the personal commentary in the subject. Particularly when its not necessarily universally subscribed to.
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:49 PM   #15
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I assumed LAD was the episode title.

Still the original poster should have followed our convention and included a original air date. And personally I think he/she should refrain from the personal commentary in the subject. Particularly when its not necessarily universally subscribed to.
LAD is not the episode title, it's the name of the show. And this was not intended to be an episode specific thread. I'm very comfortable with the Subject title just as I wrote it (my "personal commentary", that is). I think you may need to lighten up a bit
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I'm fine with it, too.

Not the show - the thread (and title).
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:07 PM   #17
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They don't even try to get the simplest of details right (ie, toward the end of the episode you saw "upload aborted" on the computer display. He wasn't uploading - he was decrypting - and they made that very clear - to everyone except themselves, I guess )
But he was "uploading". He did whatever command was necessary to start the "upload", but then the issue was why was the upload operation taking so long: because the upload operation was automatically decrypting first.
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my wife rolled her eyes and openly mocked me when i paused the show to express my disgust at Chloe giving Jack an IP address octet that was like .718 or something.
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isn't 718 a timeout error?
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:30 PM   #20
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my wife rolled her eyes and openly mocked me when i paused the show to express my disgust at Chloe giving Jack an IP address octet that was like .718 or something.
See, that one was so obvious it must have been on purpose just to tease us.
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See, that one was so obvious it must have been on purpose just to tease us.
she claimed that i'm the ONLY person in the WORLD to pause the show over that "issue".... i retorted with, i had to pause it in order to explain to her why that's ludicrous.
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my wife rolled her eyes and openly mocked me when i paused the show to express my disgust at Chloe giving Jack an IP address octet that was like .718 or something.
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See, that one was so obvious it must have been on purpose just to tease us.

It was on purpose, but not to tease anybody. I've never heard an IP address mentioned on TV that didn't have an invalid value. They do that so it doesn't end up being someone's actual address and causing problems for that person.

It's the same reason why almost every phone number on television starts with "555".
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It was on purpose, but not to tease anybody. I've never heard an IP address mentioned on TV that didn't have an invalid value. They do that so it doesn't end up being someone's actual address and causing problems for that person.

It's the same reason why almost every phone number on television starts with "555".
figured as much, but they could have used some other address that's owned by Fox or something.
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she claimed that i'm the ONLY person in the WORLD to pause the show over that "issue"....
No you're not. I did that before in past seasons of '24'. My wife basically told me the same thing. Though, I believe she also said "Shut up and turn the show back on!"

I am a computer network engineer. Their computer terminology makes the show practically unwatchable to me. It's like they try to come up with the dumbest, most unrealistic computer terminology ever.
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No you're not. I did that before in past seasons of '24'. My wife basically told me the same thing. Though, I believe she also said "Shut up and turn the show back on!"

I am a computer network engineer. Their computer terminology makes the show practically unwatchable to me. It's like they try to come up with the dumbest, most unrealistic computer terminology ever.
i knew all i had to do was come to this board to find someone else.
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LAD is not the episode title, it's the name of the show. And this was not intended to be an episode specific thread. I'm very comfortable with the Subject title just as I wrote it (my "personal commentary", that is). I think you may need to lighten up a bit
I think a thread title for a show should indicate if spoilers are intended or not. I opened this not knowing and immediately saw pmyers spoiler.
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I think a thread title for a show should indicate if spoilers are intended or not. I opened this not knowing and immediately saw pmyers spoiler.
If you've paid any attention at all to the hype surrounding this show and watched the first ep or two, you would know what "24 - LAD" means. And it was clearly evident to me that this was a general thread about the show and would likely contain spoilers. Should the title have said "spoilers"? Perhaps...but, as I said, it was clearly evident from its title that the thread was a general discussion...
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If you've paid any attention at all to the hype surrounding this show and watched the first ep or two, you would know what "24 - LAD" means. And it was clearly evident to me that this was a general thread about the show and would likely contain spoilers. Should the title have said "spoilers"? Perhaps...but, as I said, it was clearly evident from its title that the thread was a general discussion...
You have it backwards, because the thread title is JUST the show title, it is evident that it is a general thread about the show WITHOUT spoilers.

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You have it backwards, because the thread title is JUST the show title, it is evident that it is a general thread about the show WITHOUT spoilers.
How do I have it backwards? That's exactly what I said....the thread title is the name of the show, not an ep. I said it was clear this was a general thread about the show. And I have NO idea where you get that there would be no spoilers...
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No you're not. I did that before in past seasons of '24'. My wife basically told me the same thing. Though, I believe she also said "Shut up and turn the show back on!"

I am a computer network engineer. Their computer terminology makes the show practically unwatchable to me. It's like they try to come up with the dumbest, most unrealistic computer terminology ever.
And it's the same for every other trade out there. This has always been the case with TV and always will be. It is nothing new. TV has never followed the rules of the real world.
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