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Old 04-08-2012, 07:25 PM   #1
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Game of Thrones - "The Night Lands" - 4/8/2012 - S02E02

I am literally watching the clock waiting on this!

Synopsis from my guide:
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In the wake of a bloody purge in the capital, Tyrion chastens Cersei for alienating the king’s subjects. On the road north, Arya shares a secret with Gendry, a Night’s Watch recruit. With supplies dwindling, one of Dany's scouts returns with news of their position. After nine years as a Stark ward, Theon Greyjoy reunites with his father Balon, who wants to restore the ancient Kingdom of the Iron Islands. Davos enlists Salladhor Saan, a pirate, to join forces with Stannis and Melisandre for a naval invasion of King’s Landing.

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Old 04-08-2012, 07:45 PM   #2
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I just finished season 1 on my AppleTV, and signed up for HBO and HBOGO just this evening. I got a 50% off for 6 month deal through Verizon FiOS.

I'll be watching season 2 ep 1 on my iPad while ep 2 gets TiVo'ed up.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:05 PM   #3
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Lots of complaints:

* One hour is not enough a week
* Ten episodes is not enough a year

Another fantastic episode. When it flashed to the credits at the end, I couldn't believe the hour had passed so quickly.

Oh, and Cersei's an idiot. Uneasy lies the head that gave birth to the crown.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:09 PM   #4
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@ astrohip I agree

Is it next week already?
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:19 PM   #5
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Wow!! Where to even start!

So it was Joffrey that ordered the bastards be killed. I really thought it was her. Damnit! And WTF bitch, I really want her to get hers just for having the nerve to tell Tyrion it was his first joke killing their mother during childbirth. I felt so bad for him. Dinklage just knocks it out of the park every. single. time.

So did I see that right at the end? Snow watched Craster give the baby to the white walkers?? Did not see that coming! And here I thought Sam would be the one to screw this up. I kept saying "Jon it's not your problem, don't follow him!" but I knew immediately that he would.

Theon was feeling up his own sister. That was not cool... why the hell didn't she say something? I'm not sure I fully get what happened there. Did the Stark's take Theon by force during their battle and now he's basically one of them and his father is bitter? Why else hasn't Theon been home in so long?

Bronn is in charge, bitches! Heee! That entire scene with Janos was gold. Sends him off to the wall like it was nothing. Bravo!

And umm listen up hookers, don't be unhappy at Lord Baelish's expense. That was the first time I ever found him scary.

And please tell me I'm wrong... did that head belong to Rakharo?? Noooo!

I'll have more to say once I get some sleep and read other's thoughts! I'm sad it's over!
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:35 PM   #6
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Theon was feeling up his own sister. That was not cool... why the hell didn't she say something? I'm not sure I fully get what happened there. Did the Stark's take Theon by force during their battle and now he's basically one of them and his father is bitter? Why else hasn't Theon been home in so long?
Theon was a hostage, in the classical sense of the word. As part of the peace, Theon was sent to Winterfell to be raised by Ned. In theory, his presence there would stop Balon from misbehaving. But it's pretty obvious that Balon and his crew don't care much for Theon anyway...they think he's just a big ol' softy who's been corrupted by his time away from the sea.

As for his sister, apparently she's a sick, twisted %#^! who thought putting up with a little bortherly feel-up was worth it for the look on his face later when he found out.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:46 PM   #7
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In the book, she really plays that up, gets Theon talking about how important he is, all the things he's going to do. She's really getting intel on who Theon really is. He's been gone so long nobody knows whats happened to him. And she doesn't want him waltzing in and taking her position of favor, so gathering data and putting him off his game at the same time? A perfect ploy.
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:14 PM   #9
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Did the Stark's take Theon by force during their battle and now he's basically one of them and his father is bitter? Why else hasn't Theon been home in so long?
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Theon was a hostage, in the classical sense of the word. As part of the peace, Theon was sent to Winterfell to be raised by Ned. In theory, his presence there would stop Balon from misbehaving. But it's pretty obvious that Balon and his crew don't care much for Theon anyway...they think he's just a big ol' softy who's been corrupted by his time away from the sea.

As for his sister, apparently she's a sick, twisted %#^! who thought putting up with a little bortherly feel-up was worth it for the look on his face later when he found out.
Here's more background. I've spoilerized it because it wasn't in the show, but it doesn't give anything away:
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After Robert's rebellion when he took the thrown from the Targaryens, Theon's father, Balon Greyjoy, tried to overthrow Robert. He lost. Ned took Theon as a hostage to ensure Balon didn't rise up again.


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So then why does Theon's father treat him as if he's the one that's done something wrong?
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:29 AM   #11
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So then why does Theon's father treat him as if he's the one that's done something wrong?
I suppose if he'd been a good Greyjoy he would have killed Ned & his entire family, and conquered the North.

Such a disappointment, that boy.
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First big diversions from the book in this episode. I'm fine with them for now as they open up some interesting avenues.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:37 AM   #13
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I suppose if he'd been a good Greyjoy he would have killed Ned & his entire family, and conquered the North.

Such a disappointment, that boy.
He was gone 9 years and his father (is it Balon?) said the Starks had him longer than he did so he's about 20 years old at this point, no?
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So then why does Theon's father treat him as if he's the one that's done something wrong?
The Grejoys are tough. He's sizing up the man in front of him and letting him know the lay of the land.

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I suppose if he'd been a good Greyjoy he would have killed Ned & his entire family, and conquered the North.

Such a disappointment, that boy.
But he also waited until his son got back as the signal to restart the war against the Starks, right?

I like Theon's sister. I look forward to many a twisted scene with her making men squirm

OMG. only 8 episodes left
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He was gone 9 years and his father (is it Balon?) said the Starks had him longer than he did so he's about 20 years old at this point, no?
I was thinking that would make him about 17.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:32 AM   #16
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I do not think this is a spoiler because it has nothing to do with future episodes but just in case because it is a reference to the books.

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I was looking up information about Theon's sister online and did not realize they changed her name from the books to the TV show. In the book she was Asha Greyjoy and in the show she is now Yara Greyjoy

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I do not think this is a spoiler because it has nothing to do with future episodes but just in case because it is a reference to the books.

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I was looking up information about Theon's sister online and did not realize they changed her name from the books to the TV show. In the book she was Asha Greyjoy and in the show she is now Yara Greyjoy
Probably to avoid confusion with Osha in Winterfell.
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Probably to avoid confusion with Osha in Winterfell.
who is Osha?

I was annoyed at the name Yara because I didn't want to confuse her with Arry (also from Winterfell)!
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who is Osha?

I was annoyed at the name Yara because I didn't want to confuse her with Arry (also from Winterfell)!
The Wildling that now takes care of Bran.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:53 AM   #20
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Reading book 1 now and it's amazing how well I can follow along now. I hope to catch up to the series soon!
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:07 AM   #21
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Reading book 1 now and it's amazing how well I can follow along now. I hope to catch up to the series soon!
I'm early in book 2 and finding a mixed bag on "catching up". I see a scene and think "I've read that!", and the next scene, "I haven't read THAT!".

Either way, I love it!
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The captured wildling woman at Winterfell aka Tonks from the Harry Potter movies.
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I have to admit, I'm rather proud of myself at how much I'm able to keep up with this show, not having read the books and refusing to read spoilers. I can't even go to the threads on TWOP because of all the book references in everyone's posts. So yay me!

Anyhow, one question to those who did read the books, you can PM me or spoiler the answer, either one.

Please just tell me this:
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Will they turn me against Tyrion? I know he's kind of an in between bad guy/good guy as so many in this show are, so many shades of gray.. but I simply adore him and his sarcastic wit and lack of tolerance for most people. I also find myself wanting vengeance for him just at the thought of someone hurting his feelings. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to feel this way or if it's just at how effing amazing Dinklage is playing the character.

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I know I''ll be in the minority, but other than Tyrion's and Cersei's exchange, I thought this episode was weak.
Am I crazy ?
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I know I''ll be in the minority, but other than Tyrion's and Cersei's exchange, I thought this episode was weak.
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I know I''ll be in the minority, but other than Tyrion's and Cersei's exchange, I thought this episode was weak.
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Yes. Seek help at once.
Agreed.

If it makes you feel any better, think of the first 2 episodes as a date with a stunner, getting back to your place, she already told you you're gonna get it tonight, and you're on the couch kissing.
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Anyhow, one question to those who did read the books, you can PM me or spoiler the answer, either one.

Please just tell me this:
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Will they turn me against Tyrion?
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No, they won't.

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Answer:
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No, they won't.
Spoiler:
Thank you!! <does happy dance>
That was my only fear in watching.

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Oh and my favorite exchange of the season so far:

Tyrion: Tell me, when you your men slaughtered Ned Stark's men in the throne room, did you give the order?
Janos: I did. And I would do it again. The man was a traitor. He tried to buy my loyalty.
Tyrion: The fool. He had no idea you are already bought.
Janos: Are you drunk? I will not have my honor questioned by an imp!
Tyrion: I'm not questioning it, Lord Janos. I'm denying its existence.
Janos: If you think I’ll stand here and take this from you, dwarf
Tyrion: Dwarf? You should have stopped at imp

Heee! Gosh I hope we get many more of these kinds of smack downs from Tyrion.
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Regarding Davos Seaworth, Stannis's hand of the king. In the books his character was more or less flushed out by now. So in case anyone was wondering what he and the other pirate were talking about when the pirate said something about how "Stannis cut off his fingers and now Davos loves him for it." I'll spoilerize it just in case some people don't want to know about it, but it will spread some light on what the pirate meant.

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Davos Seaworth, Lord of newly founded House Seaworth, called "the Onion Knight", was originally a smuggler. He was knighted and given a keep on Cape Wrath by Stannis Baratheon after smuggling food (including the onions that gave him his moniker) into Stannis's besieged castle. However, Stannis also removed the last joint of each of the four fingers of Davos's left hand for his criminal past. He is a loyal supporter of Stannis and his most trusted counselor. In the books Davos kept the bones of his fingers in a pouch around his neck, I haven't seen the pouch on the show.

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