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12-12-2011, 01:16 PM
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Question - Tivo Update: Problem deleting shows?
Just thought I would ask but is anyone else having problems deleting shows since the update...?
Since the update - which I mostly like - I've noticed that if I delete a show unless I stay on the same page until it disappears (and that can be a long time), the show is not deleted even though it's marked for deletion.
Removing a show can take several attempts.
Pre-update deleting a show took place regardless of whether or not I stayed on the same page.
For the record, my Tivo is a plain vanilla VM 1TB Tivo with the "last update" which fixed the PIN pain.
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12-12-2011, 01:54 PM
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Programme deletion is something that has changed (or been broken) depending on your POV
You can now only delete a recording by either:
1. Pressing 'Stop' first
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B. Being within 5 mins of the end when you press 'Back'
The latter option hasn't changed. Only the former has.
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12-13-2011, 10:46 AM
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Whenever you delete a show it actually only marks it for deletion.
Usually TiVo is able to delete the show within a second - but for some reason requires the network connection to be fully active to do this.
It it has a temporary problem with the network, the show will remain in MyShows but marked for deletion.
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12-13-2011, 02:25 PM
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Thanks Carl and OzSat.
I think it's the new requirement to press "Stop" that may be causing part of the problem.
If I take into account padding, I rarely press Stop first, just press Back and then Delete.
Nonetheless, there still seems to be some lag on deleting shows even taking this into account. Shows that I have deleted still appear even after I've moved back to live tv.
Any way just a (minor) change in behaviour until the next update.
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12-13-2011, 04:32 PM
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There always has been a lag and it's really annoying  I have never had anything re-appear though
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12-14-2011, 06:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwaring
Programme deletion is something that has changed (or been broken) depending on your POV
You can now only delete a recording by either:
1. Pressing 'Stop' first
or
B. Being within 5 mins of the end when you press 'Back'
The latter option hasn't changed. Only the former has.
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Can you not delete by just pressing the "Clear" button?
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12-14-2011, 09:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixerman
Can you not delete by just pressing the "Clear" button? 
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Yes. thats been how I delete all the time. Especially handy as you can delete a whole folder full of SCD that SWMBO forgets to delete after watching and wonders why the Tivo is showing 98% full.
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12-14-2011, 10:55 AM
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Unfortunately, now, sometimes when you press Clear, the X appears next to the programme for a while, but the programme doesn't disappear. Usually, going into another programme and back out, and trying Clear again fixes it.
Quite annoying, but not a disaster.
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12-14-2011, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaichik
Unfortunately, now, sometimes when you press Clear, the X appears next to the programme for a while, but the programme doesn't disappear. Usually, going into another programme and back out, and trying Clear again fixes it.
Quite annoying, but not a disaster.
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I'm sure it must very irritating but I have never experienced this problem on any of my three Tivos!
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12-14-2011, 11:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaichik
Unfortunately, now, sometimes when you press Clear, the X appears next to the programme for a while, but the programme doesn't disappear. Usually, going into another programme and back out, and trying Clear again fixes it.
Quite annoying, but not a disaster.
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Zaichik - has it right a little annoying but not the end of the world.
I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me.
Thanks for the information.
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12-14-2011, 02:06 PM
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I'm currently enjoying an issue with deleting shows. If I delete 1 of a number of programmes in a folder, then the entire folder disappears !!!!!!
If I undelete the programme, then the group and all programmes reappear.
It's not really a big deal, but did cause the kids to shout when all their Simpons disappeared.
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12-14-2011, 02:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixerman
Can you not delete by just pressing the "Clear" button? 
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Yes, but only under the conditions mentioned. Sorry for the confusion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaichik
Unfortunately, now, sometimes when you press Clear, the X appears next to the programme for a while, but the programme doesn't disappear. Usually, going into another programme and back out, and trying Clear again fixes it.
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Not if you follow my instructions
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12-14-2011, 02:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Al
I'm currently enjoying an issue with deleting shows. If I delete 1 of a number of programmes in a folder, then the entire folder disappears !!!!!!
If I undelete the programme, then the group and all programmes reappear.
It's not really a big deal, but did cause the kids to shout when all their Simpons disappeared. 
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This happens when the other episodes are recorded as suggestions.
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12-14-2011, 06:13 PM
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Definitely a bug - The newly introduced method of pressing STOP now works perfectly though!.
Basically, if you exit a recording by 'backing out' (age old Tivo technique), its as though it becomes write protected, so can't be deleted by any means. Only exception is in the last 5 mins (when you get the delete/keep pop-up) where it worts as expected. OP, or jump to the end before exiting (thus trigger the keep/delete screen)
I guess when they introduced the Stop option they didn't check the original method still worked!
Something else I noticed is that if you delete suggested recordings, then change your mind and undelete them, they come back as regular recordings (thats not really a problem though, more a minor quirk).
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