The Walking Dead - S02E02 - 10/23/11

markz · 10-24-2011, 10:04 AM

Glad to see the boy, Carl, was still alive. I half expected them to kill him off. I guess they still could, although it seems they would have done it already instead of drawing it out longer.

I figured they'd find the girl, one way or the other this episode. Guess they will drag it out longer too.

The guy that shot Carl was recently on the The Mentalist. It was weird seeing him in this role. It was nice that he truly felt bad about shooting the boy and wanted to help anyway he could. I don't see how he is going to escape the walkers at the medical trailer.

I'd seriously think about grabbing a humvee or ambulance from there to take. The ambulance would make a great fortified camper with lots of supplies to keep them safe from walkers in the night.

The girl on the horse was cute. Where do I know her from?

BradJW · 10-24-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by markz

Glad to see the boy, Carl, was still alive. I half expected them to kill him off. I guess they still could, although it seems they would have done it already instead of drawing it out longer.

I figured they'd find the girl, one way or the other this episode. Guess they will drag it out longer too.

The guy that shot Carl was recently on the The Mentalist. It was weird seeing him in this role. It was nice that he truly felt bad about shooting the boy and wanted to help anyway he could. I don't see how he is going to escape the walkers at the medical trailer.

I'd seriously think about grabbing a humvee or ambulance from there to take. The ambulance would make a great fortified camper with lots of supplies to keep them safe from walkers in the night.

The girl on the horse was cute. Where do I know her from?

An ambulance would be great, but they went to the high school, not the hospital (or so I thought).

stark · 10-24-2011, 10:45 AM

But there were at least two ambulances in the parking lot near the police cars.

danterner · 10-24-2011, 10:46 AM

For an episode where not much happened, the time moved really quickly for me. I liked this episode a lot. Lori's reaction upon seeing Carl really got to me.

markz · 10-24-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BradJW

An ambulance would be great, but they went to the high school, not the hospital (or so I thought).

They went to a FEMA station setup at the high school. There were 2+ cop cars, 2 ambulances, several humvees, and the medical supply trailer.

ozzman73 · 10-24-2011, 11:15 AM

With the flashback in the beginning, I hope it doesn't become a trend and we get filler flashbacks. That would be annoying.

Regarding the farm and the eventual deconstruction of the episode at TCF, I thought, why haven't the people there created barriers for Zombies and traps? Some sort of fortification. Looks like a pretty vulnerable place.

markz · 10-24-2011, 11:27 AM

Here is an interview with write Robert Kirkman about this episode (beware of spoilers):

http://goo.gl/TO6sK

tlc · 10-24-2011, 11:51 AM

Orange juice?!

Rob Helmerichs · 10-24-2011, 12:22 PM

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Regarding the farm and the eventual deconstruction of the episode at TCF, I thought, why haven't the people there created barriers for Zombies and traps? Some sort of fortification. Looks like a pretty vulnerable place.

Probably not the sort of thing you think about if you're not getting attacked...

Much, MUCH better episode than last week.

JohnB1000 · 10-24-2011, 12:58 PM

I really enjoyed this. At first I thought it was going to be a "Farmhouse" only episode, something different, that would have been interesting but it was good enough. It seems predictable that Otis will die in some kind of hero role.

I hate to point these flaws out but they guys at the RV weren't watching for zombies at all, where in week 1 they were on constant patrol.

Malcontent · 10-24-2011, 01:04 PM

Did "The Walking Dead" give a shout-out to "Breaking Bad"?

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...estv&seid=auto

It looks like there was some blue crystal meth in Daryl's brothers drug baggie. Some of Mr. White's famous blue meth?

There is a screen capture of the bag of drugs.

ozzman73 · 10-24-2011, 01:15 PM

ohhhhh...I forgot to mention the crystal meth part. I paused the TV to explain to my wife that blue crystal meth was "Heisenberg's" signature. Loved that detail.

bkc56 · 10-24-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by markz

Glad to see the boy, Carl, was still alive. I half expected them to kill him off. I guess they still could, although it seems they would have done it already instead of drawing it out longer.

I guess that will depend on how close they stay to the graphic novel (and how long the show itself survives).

JohnB1000 · 10-24-2011, 01:58 PM

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I guess that will depend on how close they stay to the graphic novel (and how long the show itself survives).

I hate that kind of non spoiler / spoiler. Hinting at something that could go either way and just makes me confused and certainly wishing I hadn't read it.

EvilMidniteBombr · 10-24-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Malcontent

Did "The Walking Dead" give a shout-out to "Breaking Bad"?

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...estv&seid=auto

It looks like there was some blue crystal meth in Daryl's brothers drug baggie. Some of Mr. White's famous blue meth?

There is a screen capture of the bag of drugs.

I am just now catching up to speed on Breaking Bad on Netflix and immediately thought of Mr. Heisenberg when they showed the blue meth. I have only made it as far as 2/3 of season 3) I guess it has spread from the southwest into the southeast.

DevdogAZ · 10-24-2011, 05:09 PM

This episode was definitely better than the season premiere, but the people are still being pretty stupid overall.

Pretty strange that the zombies at the high school just seemed to be confined to the parking lot and had apparently be staggering back and forth in that small area for weeks. What is the explanation for why some zombies roam in herds (like in the season premiere) and others just stay put in a small area (like in this episode)?

DreadPirateRob · 10-24-2011, 05:16 PM

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I'd seriously think about grabbing a humvee or ambulance from there to take. The ambulance would make a great fortified camper with lots of supplies to keep them safe from walkers in the night.

The ambulance would be a nice grab, but it'd be tough to grab a new vehicle at the HS, what with all the zombies chasing them. And how do you know if the keys are in it? Aren't they likely to be in the pocket of a zombie walking around wearing an EMT uniform?

As for Humvees - they are all diesel (as far as I know), so finding gas is going to be a problem. Especially since they get like 4 mpg.

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The girl on the horse was cute. Where do I know her from?

Probably either as Vivian Volkoff from Chuck, or as Bella the uber-hot catburglar/dealer from Supernatural.

danterner · 10-24-2011, 05:19 PM

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What is the explanation for why some zombies roam in herds (like in the season premiere) and others just stay put in a small area (like in this episode)?

1. Chaos theory?
2. They are subject to the needs of the writers, and they do as the plot demands?

jradosh · 10-24-2011, 05:29 PM

1. how was the house somehow a magical fortress which all these random zombies never discovered or attacked?

2. I can buy the fact that maybe they'd stocked up on supplies and therefore had orange juice, but it's still a stretch

3. why was the old man so jazzed up about finding "pink water" when they'd found a truckload of water jugs?

4. there's a pickup truck sitting right in front of the RV, it's contents covered by a tarp. You'd think that tarp would be off by now.

5. at least there were no superfluous monologues this ep.

Rob Helmerichs · 10-24-2011, 05:32 PM

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1. how was the house somehow a magical fortress which all these random zombies never discovered or attacked?

It's in the middle of nowhere. There were no people there to begin with, and no reason for the zombies to wander in that direction.

jradosh · 10-24-2011, 05:37 PM

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It's in the middle of nowhere. There were no people there to begin with, and no reason for the zombies to wander in that direction.

It was just a short run away from where they were looking in the woods for the little girl who was running away from two zombies, and a horse ride away from where a few other zombies attacked. Those woods were apparently riddled with zombies...

NetJunkie · 10-24-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jradosh

It was just a short run away from where they were looking in the woods for the little girl who was running away from two zombies, and a horse ride away from where a few other zombies attacked. Those woods were apparently riddled with zombies...

Maybe a spoiler...doubtful....but...

Spoiler:

DevdogAZ · 10-24-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DreadPirateRob

The ambulance would be a nice grab, but it'd be tough to grab a new vehicle at the HS, what with all the zombies chasing them. And how do you know if the keys are in it? Aren't they likely to be in the pocket of a zombie walking around wearing an EMT uniform?

As for Humvees - they are all diesel (as far as I know), so finding gas is going to be a problem. Especially since they get like 4 mpg.

True, Humvees get crappy mileage, but being diesel shouldn't be a problem. In a metropolitan area, diesel may not be as easy to come by, but out of the city, they'll be able to find truck stops with plenty of diesel just as easily as they'll find gas stations with regular gasoline. And diesel will last much longer than regular gasoline. So Humvees aren't necessarily a bad idea.

nataylor · 10-24-2011, 06:29 PM

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What is the explanation for why some zombies roam in herds (like in the season premiere) and others just stay put in a small area (like in this episode)?

Zombies seem to have a group mentality. All it takes is one to set off a kind of chain reaction of behavior when they're in a group. Say one sees a yummy woodchuck in the woods and starts walking after it. Others notice this and start following. Soon the original one has lost sight of the woodchuck, but sees the others walking off and starts following them. Very much like a flock of birds, they continue moving in a group, with no particular one in the lead.

And it's been established that there are two main kinds of zombies: roamers and lurkers. Perhaps there were enough of the lurker kind at the school that no momentum developed in the group for it to wander away.

tiams · 10-24-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jradosh

1. how was the house somehow a magical fortress which all these random zombies never discovered or attacked?

2. I can buy the fact that maybe they'd stocked up on supplies and therefore had orange juice, but it's still a stretch

3. why was the old man so jazzed up about finding "pink water" when they'd found a truckload of water jugs?

4. there's a pickup truck sitting right in front of the RV, it's contents covered by a tarp. You'd think that tarp would be off by now.

5. at least there were no superfluous monologues this ep.

As for 3, I am thinking that the pink water is going to end up being poison or important in some way. Maybe it's even related to why all those people on the highway are dead and not Zombies.

ClutchBrake · 10-24-2011, 08:10 PM

It was just an energy drink. Powerade, I think. Don't think there was anything more to it than that. Seemed like he was kinda lamenting the whole energy drink thing like most old fogies (like me).

Or it could be this season's grenade. We'll see.

tiams · 10-24-2011, 08:25 PM

Chekhov's energy drink.

caslu · 10-24-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jradosh

1. how was the house somehow a magical fortress which all these random zombies never discovered or attacked?

2. I can buy the fact that maybe they'd stocked up on supplies and therefore had orange juice, but it's still a stretch

3. why was the old man so jazzed up about finding "pink water" when they'd found a truckload of water jugs?

4. there's a pickup truck sitting right in front of the RV, it's contents covered by a tarp. You'd think that tarp would be off by now.

5. at least there were no superfluous monologues this ep.

1. How do you know the farm house has never been attacked?

2. It's Georgia, warm enough for oranges to grow on trees for fresh OJ.

3. Pink water = vitamin water, that's why he was jazzed.

4. How do you know they never looked under the tarp, or that they didn't put the tarp over some supplies on the truck?

markz · 10-24-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DreadPirateRob

Probably either as Vivian Volkoff from Chuck.

Yep, that's it! Thanks!

john4200 · 10-24-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DevdogAZ

This episode was definitely better than the season premiere, but the people are still being pretty stupid overall.

Pretty strange that the zombies at the high school just seemed to be confined to the parking lot and had apparently be staggering back and forth in that small area for weeks.

By now, I'd expect a better plan for getting the medical supplies from the middle of the zombies. Actually, any sort of plan would have been better than what those morons did. Why not have Shane lead the zombies off while Otis grabbed the supplies? Contrary to the idiocy in the last episode, a fit man can outrun zombies (who clearly do not have a good running stride). Lead them in a big circle, maintaining enough of a lead to get back in the truck and drive away after Otis gets the goods.