Breaking Bad "Face Off" 10/9/11 - Page 4

danterner · 12-30-2011, 05:10 PM

Just saw a commercial for something (Samsung, I think - wasn't really paying attention), that featured a guy trying in clothes in a changing room. I knew I recognized the actor from somewhere, but couldn't place him. Just came to me in a flash -- it was the guy who plays Badger. Figured I'd post here and save anyone who has a similar "where do I know him from" brain-freeze.

Hank · 12-30-2011, 06:32 PM

I have no idea, but I was just re-watching this episode last night!

aadam101 · 12-30-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by danterner

Just saw a commercial for something (Samsung, I think - wasn't really paying attention), that featured a guy trying in clothes in a changing room. I knew I recognized the actor from somewhere, but couldn't place him. Just came to me in a flash -- it was the guy who plays Badger. Figured I'd post here and save anyone who has a similar "where do I know him from" brain-freeze.

I saw that. It was strange to watch him act like a real person and not a strung out meth head.

tgrim1 · 12-30-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by danterner

Just saw a commercial for something (Samsung, I think - wasn't really paying attention), that featured a guy trying in clothes in a changing room. I knew I recognized the actor from somewhere, but couldn't place him. Just came to me in a flash -- it was the guy who plays Badger. Figured I'd post here and save anyone who has a similar "where do I know him from" brain-freeze.

I just caught up on my NCIS and he played an agent Dorneget guarding Tony Sr. When I seen him I said "Badger!"

He cleans up good!

Peter000 · 01-07-2012, 10:45 AM

I've had a "Breaking Bad" marathon over the holidays, from the beginning, and finally have caught up. I was pretty impressed with this season finale, aside from the cartoony looking face-offed Gus.

Some general season comments since I haven't participated in the show threads so far...

While the car wash wasn't a bad way to go to launder money, and a great call-back to the beginning of the series, I thought for sure Walt was going to steal Gale's coffee formula and open up some coffee shops.

Walt's pretty much broken bad all the way now. He has no compunction about killing anyone or ordering anyone killed who gets in his way, or threatens his way of life. The only people he hasn't gone that far with are his family & Jesse. But I hope he gets some sort of redemption in the last season.

Jesse sure came a long way this season. Even though he was totally manipulated by everyone, he arguably came out a better person.

Anyway, BB is probably the best series on TV... I can't think of another that has compared to it during it's run. TV at it's finest.

getreal · 01-07-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter000

I've had a "Breaking Bad" marathon over the holidays, from the beginning, and finally have caught up. I was pretty impressed with this season finale, aside from the cartoony looking face-offed Gus.

I agree that having Gus walk out of that blown-up room and pause at the door was pretty ridiculous and cartoony ... especially since the rest of the entire series had more believable elements.

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... While the car wash wasn't a bad way to go to launder money, and a great call-back to the beginning of the series, I thought for sure Walt was going to steal Gale's coffee formula and open up some coffee shops.

I had never considered that, but I think Walt would be too proud to steal another (lesser) chemist's formula for anything. Did Gale make the coffee at the lab? If anything, Walt would have perfected the coffee formula, thereby making it his own, if he was to open coffee shops.

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Originally Posted by Peter000

Walt's pretty much broken bad all the way now. He has no compunction about killing anyone or ordering anyone killed who gets in his way, or threatens his way of life. The only people he hasn't gone that far with are his family & Jesse. But I hope he gets some sort of redemption in the last season.

He has coerced Jesse into killing for him.

I agree that BB is amongst the top shows on television.

robojerk · 01-07-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by getreal

I had never considered that, but I think Walt would be too proud to steal another (lesser) chemist's formula for anything. Did Gale make the coffee at the lab? If anything, Walt would have perfected the coffee formula, thereby making it his own, if he was to open coffee shops.

The beaker making coffee has been a staple in the lab since Gale was introduced. Since Gale is no more, obviously Walter has learned how to do it.

Hank · 01-07-2012, 01:37 PM

In case you're really addicted to the show, this is what I got my g/f for hanukah... she loved it:

http://www.cafepress.com/+los_pollos..._mug,573544648

moondoggie · 01-07-2012, 05:56 PM

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In case you're really addicted to the show, this is what I got my g/f for hanukah... she loved it:

http://www.cafepress.com/+los_pollos..._mug,573544648

Love it!

HomieG · 01-08-2012, 10:55 AM

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In case you're really addicted to the show, this is what I got my g/f for hanukah... she loved it:

http://www.cafepress.com/+los_pollos..._mug,573544648

Looks like they have a bunch of cool stuff!

netringer · 01-08-2012, 11:09 AM

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Looks like they have a bunch of cool stuff!

Thanks for that. I was trying to figure out how to search for other items.

I bought a couple of shirts. The stuff is on sale and the code JAN20 adds another 20% off.

Another TCF buying impulse resistance fail.

The Flush · 01-19-2012, 11:07 AM

I finally finished catching up with Breaking Bad. My thoughts without having read anyone else's comments:

What a great series finale!! But wait, that wasn't the series finale, it was just the season finale, so what are they going to do next season? I can't wait to find out. It seems like they completed this season before they knew there would be another season. I am kind of glad there was no huge cliff hanger at the end.

Are we being led to believe the Walt did actually poison Brock with Lily of the Valley or was that just a coincidence? There does not seem to be many coincidences in this show, so this could play out next season. If Walt did do it, it was a huge desperate risk, but Walt has already assumed he was dead, so it did not matter much to him.

I assume Walt does not have much money left now, but perhaps he can make enough to live off with the car wash. However, what about paying for Hank's therapy and his own cancer treatments? What will be the driver to get back into the meth business? They will have to start over, but how will another super lab be funded?

The only thing I did not like was Terminator Gus. Most unrealistic part of the show.

Now off to read other comments, which may answer some of my questions.

pmyers · 01-19-2012, 01:25 PM

I'm glad this thread popped back up.

My wife and I JUST finished this season up. Wow...what a finale!

I just wonder what next season will focus on:
Will Walt try to take over Gus' empire?
Will it just be the DEA closing in on Walt?

I can't wait

Hank · 01-19-2012, 05:39 PM

There's no doubt in my mind that Walt poisoned Brock with the Lily of the Valley. They set it up to be questionable, but I don't see any other explanation of how Brock got ahold of it.

Next season is going to be weird without Gus and the superlab. I do think it will concentrate on Hank/DEA closing in on Walt and Jesse. I'm not sure if there will be any meth cooking, unless Gus had a duplicate superlab built somewhere as a backup, and Mike, Walt, and Jesse take it over. But with the real superlab exposed and destroyed under Gus's business, their "laundry" cover is blown... so there's no easy way to get the chemicals they need. And I don't think they'll go back to an RV. Maybe they'll set up shop in a basement under the car-wash, but they still have the distribution problem.

There's also the wildcard of Mike's return and what he's going to do.

Peter000 · 01-19-2012, 05:55 PM

Well, there are more drug lords in the country than just Gus, and someone will try to fill the vacuum.

It's my suspicion that next season will deal with Walt trying to fix and clean up the damage that his meth cooking did.

danterner · 01-19-2012, 06:31 PM

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It's my suspicion that next season will deal with Walt trying to fix and clean up the damage that his meth cooking did.

Could be, but I kind of see the Walt-to-Heisenberg transition as a one way trip. Fixing and cleaning up implies he'll be seeking redemption, and I don't think redemption is his focus. I suspect the only fixing and cleaning would be done out of a selfish sense of self-preservation, and that it won't go very well if he tries - it'll just create bigger deeper problems.

CharlieW · 01-19-2012, 06:48 PM

Speculation about the direction of the plot of this show is usually a frustrating parlor game in which Gilligan makes a left when you expected he would make a right. That being said, I'll throw my hat in the ring anyway. I expect that the final 16 episodes will see Walt's world come crumbling down around him. There's no question now that he has broken bad. He sat in the backyard, spun that gun and formulated his plan to poison a child to save his own skin. In Walt, I think Gilligan has created a character who can't possibly survive the series.

Hank · 01-19-2012, 06:49 PM

Or if he survives, nobody else does, and he's alone in the end.

CharlieW · 01-19-2012, 07:03 PM

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Or if he survives, nobody else does, and he's alone in the end.

That's a possibility. One of the scenarios that I mentioned to a friend recently played out in my mind like this: Walt survives, barely. His family is all gone. Walt still is not suspected of any crimes and is now in a convalescence home confined to a wheelchair and his injuries no longer allow him to speak. In the final scene of the series, a nurse from the home comes in and straps a bell onto the arm of Walt's wheelchair and leaves. The End.

Hank · 01-19-2012, 07:09 PM

Wow.. that's great.

But kinda cheesey hollywood, too.

danterner · 01-19-2012, 07:33 PM

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That's a possibility. One of the scenarios that I mentioned to a friend recently played out in my mind like this: Walt survives, barely. His family is all gone. Walt still is not suspected of any crimes and is now in a convalescence home confined to a wheelchair and his injuries no longer allow him to speak. In the final scene of the series, a nurse from the home comes in and straps a bell onto the arm of Walt's wheelchair and leaves. The End.

I love that.

CharlieW · 01-19-2012, 08:51 PM

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Wow.. that's great.

But kinda cheesey hollywood, too.

Maybe a little, but that train left the station on this show when Gus walked out with half his face blown off.

photoshopgrl · 01-19-2012, 08:58 PM

Am I the only one that thinks he series HAS to end with Jesse killing Walt? I just don't see any way around it.

CharlieW · 01-19-2012, 09:02 PM

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Am I the only one that thinks he series HAS to end with Jesse killing Walt? I just don't see any way around it.

I think they may set up a situation where it could be Jesse, Skylar or Hank that might take him down -- and in the end, in a shock ending, it's Walt Jr. who takes him down.

netringer · 01-19-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter000

Well, there are more drug lords in the country than just Gus, and someone will try to fill the vacuum.

It's my suspicion that next season will deal with Walt trying to fix and clean up the damage that his meth cooking did.

Not likely. Vince Gilligan said the original premise was taking a guy from Mr. Goodguy to full on eevil.

We could see Walt really becoming the kingpin and having family members, like Walt Jr., Hank or Skyler get killed.

BTW, consider that Hank has been vindicated by Gus's blowed up body being at the home.

DevdogAZ · 01-20-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Flush

I finally finished catching up with Breaking Bad. My thoughts without having read anyone else's comments:

What a great series finale!! But wait, that wasn't the series finale, it was just the season finale, so what are they going to do next season? I can't wait to find out. It seems like they completed this season before they knew there would be another season. I am kind of glad there was no huge cliff hanger at the end.

Are we being led to believe the Walt did actually poison Brock with Lily of the Valley or was that just a coincidence? There does not seem to be many coincidences in this show, so this could play out next season. If Walt did do it, it was a huge desperate risk, but Walt has already assumed he was dead, so it did not matter much to him.

I assume Walt does not have much money left now, but perhaps he can make enough to live off with the car wash. However, what about paying for Hank's therapy and his own cancer treatments? What will be the driver to get back into the meth business? They will have to start over, but how will another super lab be funded?

The only thing I did not like was Terminator Gus. Most unrealistic part of the show.

Now off to read other comments, which may answer some of my questions.

I thought I remembered that Walt didn't end up using all his money because he didn't have as much as he thought. He was planning to disappear with all his cash and never be heard from again. But when he didn't have enough to make that happen, he resorted to other means, and kept the money he had. so IIRC, he still has hundreds of thousands of dollars.

pmyers · 01-20-2012, 05:22 PM

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I thought I remembered that Walt didn't end up using all his money because he didn't have as much as he thought. He was planning to disappear with all his cash and never be heard from again. But when he didn't have enough to make that happen, he resorted to other means, and kept the money he had. so IIRC, he still has hundreds of thousands of dollars.

IIRC after Skylar paying off Beneke, I think they had about 200K left.

I've seen a carwash basement mentioned here a couple of times, is that based off of anything or are people assuming there is one? I wouldn't make such an assumption.

Hank · 01-20-2012, 05:45 PM

I'm just assuming that a basement is the best, most "controlled" place they could set up show. Not based on anything in the show to date.

But I also strongly feel that the meth cooking is done for now, and if Heisenberg still needs to generate illicit funds, it will be by some other means, chemisty or not.

aadam101 · 01-20-2012, 08:46 PM

Next season is already setup. Everybody has a boss. We already know that the cartel was afraid of Gus's boss and that's why they didn't kill him. We also know there is a huge corporation behind the funding. Hank made a call about some equipment that was purchased and found out it was purchased through a (German?) company. I can't remember exactly. There are more players in the game. We just haven't met them yet.

There is a reason why the DEA can't find any information on Gus's past. It was wiped clean for a reason.

I agree that the series should probably end with Jesse killing Walt. Walt stood by and watched Jane die and then he poisoned the kid. At this point, he isn't much better than Gus.

photoshopgrl · 01-20-2012, 08:59 PM

^ HA! Off subject but I love your sig.