I'm guessing it is safe to say these don't have lifetime
Yes, absolutely safe, as safe as saying Halle Berry won't deliver them and won't set them up for you and won't stay around a few days to be sure you know how to operate each properly.
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Home Theater OTA - TCD652160 TiVoHD w/Lifetime/1.16TB/Sony NSZ-GS7
Bedroom OTA - TiVoHD w/Lifetime/660GB/Revue
Den OTA - TiVoHD Unsubscribed/Sony NSZ-GT1
Do these have any kind of monthly rate lower then what is available now
Existing customers get a better rate and antenna only customers get a better rate. For new subscribers, lifetime is probably $400 and monthly depends on various factors but will be between $9.99 and $19.99. Let us know your circumstances and it can be determined easily enough.
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Home Theater OTA - TCD652160 TiVoHD w/Lifetime/1.16TB/Sony NSZ-GS7
Bedroom OTA - TiVoHD w/Lifetime/660GB/Revue
Den OTA - TiVoHD Unsubscribed/Sony NSZ-GT1
I am switching over to straight tivo from directv tivo and I don't want the year long commitment of the new premiere box
i think the only way around that is lifetime. i got out of a 2 year commitment but i complained to the local consumer affairs reporter at the newspaper. he contacted tivo on my behalf.