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Old 08-12-2015, 10:39 PM   #1
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Mr. Robot "eps1.7_wh1ter0se.m4v" OAD 8/12

So... I guess this one explained a few things.

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So... I guess this one explained a few things.
A few.

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Old 08-13-2015, 08:50 AM   #3
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Was I the only one surprised by the "Darlene is Elliot's sister" revelation? (the "Mr. Robot is Elliot's father" one, not so much)

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Old 08-13-2015, 09:12 AM   #4
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Or "Elliot based Mr Robot on his father"...

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For a split second as Elliot looked at those photos of his dad, I said to myself, "Wait, Mr Robot is actually Elliot?" That would have been an unexpected reveal.

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Old 08-13-2015, 07:05 PM   #6
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Was I the only one surprised by the "Darlene is Elliot's sister" revelation? (the "Mr. Robot is Elliot's father" one, not so much)
Did not see that coming at all, although the instant she jumped up after the kiss I knew it. The episode was already getting weird when Darlene showed up in Angela's ballet class... I was like WTF? They know each other? Then by the end it all made sense.

They got me with that one though!!

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For a split second as Elliot looked at those photos of his dad, I said to myself, "Wait, Mr Robot is actually Elliot?" That would have been an unexpected reveal.
I thought exactly the same thing for a few seconds... I was thinking geez, is Christian Slater what everyone sees Elliot as, and only we see him as Rami Malek?? That would definitely have been freaky. I will say I also didn't anticipate Mr. Robot being based on Elliot's father, although that wasn't a big surprise.

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Count me amongst those who thought that Slater was Elliot and who we see is a figment. The revele that Mr. Robot is Elliot's father was not so big a surprise. Darlene being his sister, now that I did not see coming.

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Old 08-13-2015, 10:52 PM   #8
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count me amongst those who thought that slater was elliot and who we see is a figment.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:26 PM   #9
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Did not see that coming at all, although the instant she jumped up after the kiss I knew it. The episode was already getting weird when Darlene showed up in Angela's ballet class... I was like WTF? They know each other? Then by the end it all made sense.

They got me with that one though!!
They got me too.

I knew that there was something more they weren't telling us about the relationship between Darlene and Elliot.

Her air of familiarity with Elliot and his apartment. The way she would talk to him. The fact she dropped everything to help get Shayla back.

When they showed Angela and Darlene at ballet class, I was puzzled at first, thinking, "did they show us Angela and Darlene together before?"

Then I assumed that Angela knew Darlene and introduced her to Elliot.

I did not see that she was Elliot's sister.

Mr. Robot being in the image of Elliot's father didn't occur to me until just before he decrypted the photos.

Elliot is mentally breaking down but so is Tyrell.
Are we seeing parallel breakdowns?


What exactly did Mrs. Tyrell do to the baby?

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Old 08-14-2015, 08:33 AM   #10
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I guess Evil corp not only killed Angela's mom but Elliot's dad. That is the motivation.

Is Elliot schizophrenic?

I think I just need to be clear on those two things.

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Old 08-14-2015, 09:49 AM   #11
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What exactly did Mrs. Tyrell do to the baby?
I think she inserted the fork inside of herself to break her water. She said something like "I will not let them take you from us" so I don't think she wanted to harm the baby. However I think using a fork, and doing as quickly as she did was probably not the safest thing to do, but she was desperate.

I too for a moment thought Elliot was Christian Slater, and the actor we see is just a figment of his imagination. He truly is crazy.

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Old 08-14-2015, 11:58 AM   #12
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I need a Mr. Robot For Dummies book.

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Old 08-14-2015, 01:56 PM   #13
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I guess Evil corp not only killed Angela's mom but Elliot's dad. That is the motivation.
In previous episodes, Elliot and Mr. Robot have talked about Evil Corp's role in Mr. Alderson's death . Angela confirmed it at Gideon's party.

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Is Elliot schizophrenic?
I don't know if schizophrenia is the correct diagnosis but Elliot is definitely mentally ill and appears to be suffering from delusions and multiple personality disorder at minimum.

One thing I noticed that Darlene asked Elliot had forgotten who she was again, which means it's happened before.



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I think she inserted the fork inside of herself to break her water. She said something like "I will not let them take you from us" so I don't think she wanted to harm the baby. However I think using a fork, and doing as quickly as she did was probably not the safest thing to do, but she was desperate.
I thought it was something like that.
I'm not sure how much she really cares about the baby though.
The producers made a point of showing her chugging that wine down at the CTO's house.

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Really good breakdown on Grantland

http://grantland.com/hollywood-prosp...id=GrantlandFB

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Old 08-14-2015, 03:41 PM   #15
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I'm not sure how much she really cares about the baby though.
The producers made a point of showing her chugging that wine down at the CTO's house.
Also when she demanded Tyrell engage in some bondage with her even after he said it was risky for the baby.

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Old 08-14-2015, 05:08 PM   #16
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Count me amongst those who thought that Slater was Elliot and who we see is a figment. The revele that Mr. Robot is Elliot's father was not so big a surprise. Darlene being his sister, now that I did not see coming.
Me too. The reveal about Elliot's dad was no surprise since I'd seen the idea here. So Darlene is his sister and actually exists while Mr. Robot is his Dad and doesn't exist?

I wonder sometimes how much of this show I would've figured out if I never came here and only watched it on my own. Not much.

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This episode brings up a lot of questions. Beyond the obvious Darlene-sister, mr Robot-father ones...
-What does Mr. Robot (Eliot?) have to do with Welleck? Their meeting in the limo suggests they have known each other a long time. Not so sure about Mr. Robot not being an actual person now. Otherwise, why would Welleck treat Eliot like he did at Steel mountain?

-How did the Dark Army leader (and how creepy is he/she?) know that Ollie would send to deliver the hard drives? If they specifically told him to send Eliot wouldn't that cast to much suspicion on Eliot?

-I was under the impression that Welleck's wife was the really evil one telling Tyrell what to do. But it appears that she didn't know about him strangling the CTO's wife.

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Way back in like episode 2 or 3, Darlene showed up at Elliot's apartment and wanted to stay there. As viewers, we were made to believe he just met this girl and that she was creepy and stalkery for showing up unannounced and expecting Elliot to let her stay there. But now, with this new info, it makes Elliot seem like a real d-bag for kicking her out when she claimed she had no other place to go.

If the Slater character turns out to be a figment of Elliot's imagination/delusion, why do we often see the Slater character appearing to observe what Elliot is doing from afar, when Elliot doesn't even appear to notice?

What if it turns out Elliot's dad isn't dead and Slater's character is actually real?

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If the Slater character turns out to be a figment of Elliot's imagination/delusion, why do we often see the Slater character appearing to observe what Elliot is doing from afar, when Elliot doesn't even appear to notice?

What if it turns out Elliot's dad isn't dead and Slater's character is actually real?
That would be pretty cheaty, considering all the times they've shown such strong evidence that Mr Robot and Elliot are the same person (i.e., nobody ever acknowledges both of them at the same time, even when anybody would if they were both there, like when Mr Robot is causing a scene yet everybody ignores him and focuses on Elliot). I would prefer to think that's the Mr Robot personality waiting for his chance to emerge.

It will be interesting to see where they're really going with all this!

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-How did the Dark Army leader (and how creepy is he/she?) know that Ollie would send to deliver the hard drives? If they specifically told him to send Eliot wouldn't that cast to much suspicion on Eliot?
Since Elliot seems to be the only compentent one at AllSafe, Ollie would just assume getting him out of the office was help ensure the attack on their network would succeed.

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I wish they had covered Ep 5.

I can't figure out the end when Darlene is threatening to execute the plan and Mr. Robot, trying to stop her, breaks some stuff, yells at her, and finally asks "is there anyone here who can communicate with this woman?" Elliot then steps in and gets her to stop.

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Old 08-15-2015, 11:05 AM   #22
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Okay... Ehmm, didn't see the Darlene thing coming...

But something caught my eye though, we saw Mr. Robot talking to Tyrell Wellick in a car so they (Elliot as Mr. Robot and Tyrell) know each other pretty well and they seem to be colluding longer than just recently it seems.

Before I've wondered what the importance of Tyrell is to the story, worse, I've wondered why it's important that he and his wife talk Swedish when alone. There has to be a reason for that other than just for fluff.

Well, with this ep I suddenly noticed that Elliot's last name is Alderson, am sure it was mentioned before, but it didn't register, Alderson is a very Nordic sounding name, could even be Swedish...

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I'm tempted to re-watch the first episode and see the "first" meeting between Elliot and Tyrell...

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Well, with this ep I suddenly noticed that Elliot's last name is Alderson, am sure it was mentioned before, but it didn't register, Alderson is a very Nordic sounding name, could even be Swedish...
Interesting theory, but Alderson is a very English name. There are 5,539 occurrences of that surname in England, only one in Norway and only one in Sweden.

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Is Elliot schizophrenic?

I think I just need to be clear on those two things.
I you mean is he schizophrenic because he has a split personality that is a misunderstanding of what schizophrenic is.

If you mean is he schizophrenic because he hears voices in his head and is unable to distinguish them from reality possibly.

But for now it is safer to stick with he has a severe anxiety disorder compounded by inappropriate self medication.

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Someone that can do a frame-by-frame - in the scene where he is front of the mirror, I swear I saw a third face. His, the Mask, Mr Robot, and someone else. Maybe a woman? I could be wrong.

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Someone that can do a frame-by-frame - in the scene where he is front of the mirror, I swear I saw a third face. His, the Mask, Mr Robot, and someone else. Maybe a woman? I could be wrong.
Yes, one short glimpse of a woman. I couldn't decide who it was; it wasn't Darlene, might have been Angela but the color seemed wrong. Maybe Shayla? I'll look at it again later tonight.

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Someone that can do a frame-by-frame - in the scene where he is front of the mirror, I swear I saw a third face. His, the Mask, Mr Robot, and someone else. Maybe a woman? I could be wrong.

Six total, Tyrell, Darlene, and Angela also.

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Way back in like episode 2 or 3, Darlene showed up at Elliot's apartment and wanted to stay there. As viewers, we were made to believe he just met this girl and that she was creepy and stalkery for showing up unannounced and expecting Elliot to let her stay there. But now, with this new info, it makes Elliot seem like a real d-bag for kicking her out when she claimed she had no other place to go.
Not if he forgot she was his sister, and just thought it was some stalkerish girl.

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Not if he forgot she was his sister, and just thought it was some stalkerish girl.

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Well sure. But are we supposed to be under the impression that for the whole duration of the show up until the events of Ep. 7, he's not known who she was? I know she said "Did you forget AGAIN?", but I would think that if she's seen signs of him having forgotten over the previous months, that she would have said something then as well.

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