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Old 05-30-2011, 12:59 AM   #1
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The Killing "I'll let you know when I get there" OAD 5/29/11

It appears Linden has a history of getting too emotionally attached over murders of young girls. If she really does have a history of falling apart then I'm surprised her supervisor hasn't picked up on it and taken her off the case. She's sure doing a good job of screwing her own kid up.

Also are we really supposed to believe that no one at the police station recognized the logo of the casino. No one search any databases? I could think a quick Google Goggles search could have found that out for me.
What is Google Goggles?

Same thing with the name of the boat. I'm pretty sure if you typed the name of the boat with the name of the town/county this takes place in you'll get a hit.

This episode felt it should have been episode number 2 or 3, not 9 of 13. This show started off with really good promise, now it seems to be falling apart (like Linden). I'll hold out for the big pay off when we see just how the campaign is involved with the murder. Hopefully it'll be like hitting the jackpot.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:04 AM   #2
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I thought this was a much better episode. The last several have meandered all over the place, with little discernible direction. This one actually moved the story along fairly well. Of course they've made us believe almost anyone could now be a suspect, but that's ok. At least it was interesting to watch; a pleasant contrast to the non-stop gloom, doom & rain of the last few weeks.

Linden's treatment of her son bothers me. She appeared to dump him in a hotel room when they moved off the boat, then go to work for 20 hours or so. A thirteen year old kid, left by himself for hours on end? Maybe someone was with him, or he was with other people (school?), but they should have given us a glimpse of that (or alluded to it), to prevent us from calling CPS on her.
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BTW, agree on both the logo and the ferry name. Both should have been discovered almost immediately.
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I've been afraid to comment on this show because of my knowledge of the Danish one, but all I will say now is if they're going anywhere near the same place, I'll be VERY curious to see how they get there!

Considering how the first episode was almost a shot-for-shot remake, it's amazing how it's diverged. Which was kind of inevitable considering the much shorter length of the American show, and the very different nature of Danish politics. But overall the Danish one "reads" more like a crime novel, and the American more like, well, an American TV show.
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Regarding Linden's son, they'd be performing my autopsy this episode if I had sent gruesome crime scene photos to my friends from my mom's computer like he did.

We knew Linden had obsession problems. Now we find out she's been in a psych ward. She's got the worst boss in the world. She should have been removed from this case and the Seattle police department a "week" ago.

My new wild guess is that the jerk of a millionaire is the killer. Why? Who knows.
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That last 5 minutes of this episiode was some of the worst writing I have ever seen. A cop who has had no time for anyone or anything but her case finds time in her 50 hour work days to go for a morning jog and happens to stumble across the ferry Adela. Then jumps on that ferry and BAM there is the casino logo of the keychain they had from the begining. REALLY? SO DAMN WEAK! How could the writers be so sloppy with this? Really disappointed.
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That last 5 minutes of this episode was some of the worst writing I have ever seen. A cop who has had no time for anyone or anything but her case finds time in her 50 hour work days to go for a morning jog and happens to stumble across the ferry Adela. Then jumps on that ferry and BAM there is the casino logo of the keychain they had from the beginning. REALLY? SO DAMN WEAK! How could the writers be so sloppy with this? Really disappointed.
Those are, probably not coincidentally, two elements that are original to the American version...
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And as other posters brought up earlier, they should have googled something like "Adela Seattle" days ago.
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I had to rewatch this episode since my wife fell asleep during it.

I agree with NastaNJ's comment that the last bit was really lousy writing.

It's like the writers wanted to have the detectives completely lost, but instead they portrayed them as incompetent. If they had just tried to bang down the time line they wouldn't have wasted 6 episodes worth of accusing the wrong guy.

I said in a different episode thread I kind of wish they had shown us who had done it. If it is someone in the campaign it would at least make those whole scenes feel like they're worth watching cuz at the moment I could care less if the guy is down 5 points in the polls. Or maybe show the killer manipulate the cops into thinking it was the teacher.
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It does bother me that we still see so much of the campaign characters. It makes me feel certain that the connection there is going to be a big one and leaves me less invested in non-campaign things that the detectives are looking into. It might have been better if they had established a list of "Persons of Interest" or at least "Avenues to Wander Down" and put the politician, the teacher, the family, etc. on that list so it would make sense that we are still with each group.

Linden's son in the hotel room....when they showed her arriving there and the kid just sitting alone in the room, I said "When does that kid get fed?" My husband said that a 13-year-old could feed himself. Okay. But still. It seems she only sees him every three days or so to drag him to the airport and not go anywhere.
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Linden's son in the hotel room....when they showed her arriving there and the kid just sitting alone in the room, I said "When does that kid get fed?" My husband said that a 13-year-old could feed himself. Okay. But still. It seems she only sees him every three days or so to drag him to the airport and not go anywhere.
When she's not there, he's busy doing flashback scenes on Psych.
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This episode felt it should have been episode number 2 or 3, not 9 of 13. This show started off with really good promise, now it seems to be falling apart (like Linden). I'll hold out for the big pay off when we see just how the campaign is involved with the murder. Hopefully it'll be like hitting the jackpot.
Exactly this. So much of the "police work" done in this episode is stuff that should have happened much earlier in the case. But instead, they got tunnel vision for Bennet and ended up getting him beaten nearly to death.

The video of Rosie in the taxi should have been turned up days ago, and the "mysterious" name Adela and the keychain also should have been figured out sooner.

Unfortunately, the writers of this show appear to be typical US procedural writing hacks, that rely on the million to one coincidences to get themselves out of the corners they've painted themselves into. That gets old very quickly, especially in a show that was supposed to be a much smarter, much more in depth version of a crime procedural.

But I'm glad it finally appears like we're headed somewhere. The last 4 episodes should be good, if for no other reason than that they're finally going to start showing us relevant facts rather than a bunch of red herrings.
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Exactly this. So much of the "police work" done in this episode is stuff that should have happened much earlier in the case. But instead, they got tunnel vision for Bennet and ended up getting him beaten nearly to death.
That's one thing that was much more interesting in the Danish version. Without giving much away, the general trend was Linden would notice something that pointed in a certain direction; everybody else would leap to that direction's conclusion and act accordingly; Linden would not be so sure, and see something that points in another direction; everybody would think she's nuts for not seeing who the obvious culprit is; something would turn up that clears that culprit; everybody would notice Linden's last theory and leap to that direction's conclusion; etc etc etc.

Linden's genius was subtle...she wasn't the one who pieced it all together, but rather she was the one who wasn't sure when everybody else was. Generally, she knew exactly what she had and no more, when everybody else tried to make more of it than they should. She was very dogged, always working all the angles. Her downside was that she was very reluctant to commit to anything (including her fiancé!).

In the American version, she's more of an idiot.

As the Danish show went on, I found myself liking it more and more. As the American one has gone on, I find myself liking it less and less.
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This show also gives off a vibe that Linden and Holder are the only two working such a high profile case. My wife reads a ton of crime novels and she complains that there should be a lot more people working this case (at least in the first week). Hundreds of eyes should have seen the keyring.
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I'm just sad that my theory that the killer was Stan's co-worker appears to be a dud. My only hope is that he's a LOT smarter than he's letting on.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:42 AM   #17
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This show also gives off a vibe that Linden and Holder are the only two working such a high profile case. My wife reads a ton of crime novels and she complains that there should be a lot more people working this case (at least in the first week). Hundreds of eyes should have seen the keyring.
Especially with the ethnic, religious and political aspects of the case. Pretty white woman allegedly murdered by a Muslim man who is directly connected to a councilman who is running for mayor of Seattle. This would be prime Fox News fodder for days. I'm pretty sure the real Seattle police department would assign more people to this case than a detective with one foot out the door and a detective trainee.
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When she's not there, he's busy doing flashback scenes on Psych.
Heh, is that the same kid? Maybe they should bring him in on the case and use his "talents."
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Heh, is that the same kid? Maybe they should bring him in on the case and use his "talents."
Yeah, he was the original (and better IMO) "young Shawn" in the Psych flashbacks.
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Especially with the ethnic, religious and political aspects of the case. Pretty white woman allegedly murdered by a Muslim man who is directly connected to a councilman who is running for mayor of Seattle. This would be prime Fox News fodder for days. I'm pretty sure the real Seattle police department would assign more people to this case than a detective with one foot out the door and a detective trainee.
Not to mention a boss (sergeant, lieutenant) who has been an obstructionist at every turn, denying their requests for warrants and generally being unhelpful. In real life, that guy would have all kinds of political pressure to get the case solved, and he'd be breathing down Linden's neck and offering every possible resource to help her.
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I think it was Jamie Wright (the campaign manager). We have seen that he is willing to do whatever it takes to get Richmond elected. I imagine that it was Wright who chose Rosie to shake hands with Richmond at that event, making him the connection.

Now what if he had an affair with Rosie and she threatened to go public. The campaign would not survive if a teenager was sexually linked to Richmond's longtime friend and campaign manager. She would have to be silenced.

Sure using the campaigns car wasn't the best move...but it as short notice and it could be explained away. Just need to make sure the campaign reports it stolen.
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One thing that's interesting vis a vis Who Dun It and the Danish show (general spoiler that doesn't give away details for either show):
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I read that the American show has a different culprit, specifically because they didn't want people to be spoiled by finding out Who Dun It in Denmark.

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I barely remember who Rosie is at this point.
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I barely remember who Rosie is at this point.
I thought this was a show about a poorly run political campaign with a keystone cop like murder investigation in the background,
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I barely remember who Rosie is at this point.
No one remembers Laura Palmer either ...
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This has nothing to do with the episode but rather the actor that plays the worker in the Larson's home. He was in Welcome to the Dollhouse, strange movie, when I finally figured out where I knew him from I got so excited. I hate when you watch something and you just can not figure out where they are from, I know I should have checked IMDB much sooner but I wanted to figure it out on my own.
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I've been afraid to comment on this show because of my knowledge of the Danish one, but all I will say now is if they're going anywhere near the same place, I'll be VERY curious to see how they get there!

Considering how the first episode was almost a shot-for-shot remake, it's amazing how it's diverged. Which was kind of inevitable considering the much shorter length of the American show, and the very different nature of Danish politics. But overall the Danish one "reads" more like a crime novel, and the American more like, well, an American TV show.
My guess...The Danish one ends "Twin Peaks" style with Victor Borge falling off a piano bench and arrested for murder? Yes or No?
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I for one would like to issue mega kudos to the posters here. Once again I'm watching this show wicked late via TiVo but agree with the OP, Rob, et. al. about their insights. This is a show that has tailed off somewhat in intrestingness because of trite "tricks" that don't make sense by the writers (e.g. google the name, etc.) I'm in it to the soon to be end out of curiosity.

Why the Mom cop leaves her stressed kid alone in an anonymous hotel room is beyond understanding.
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