TiVo Premiere to add Xfinity on Demand

[jfalkingham]

Originally Posted by aindik

You are missing Comcast's home market. We have to have more Comcast subs than Houston, right?

You would like to think so, but they seem to pick the Boston market more than others for soft launches. TiVo on moto boxes (i still have one), anyroom dvr, blast internet (100mbps now?), home security (along with houston), etc. no idea why, but it might have to do with fios markets. Verizon (before walking away from northern new england) used Epping nh as well as kelly, tx to launch fios internet. Since then Comcast has gone into overdrive here with services/features.

Who knows for sure, but brian roberts spends a majority of the summer on marthas vineyard, good excuse to keep the latest and greatest around here.

[aindik]

Originally Posted by jfalkingham

You would like to think so, but they seem to pick the Boston market more than others for soft launches. TiVo on moto boxes (i still have one), anyroom dvr, blast internet (100mbps now?), home security (along with houston), etc. no idea why, but it might have to do with fios markets. Verizon (before walking away from northern new england) used Epping nh as well as kelly, tx to launch fios internet. Since then Comcast has gone into overdrive here with services/features.

Who knows for sure, but brian roberts spends a majority of the summer on marthas vineyard, good excuse to keep the latest and greatest around here.

I understand if Boston is a bigger Comcast market than Philly, but I can't imagine Philly doesn't make the top 10.

[lpwcomp]

Originally Posted by aindik

Almost every neighborhood in the entire Philly area has Comcast as the default cable company. In almost every neighborhood, it's the only "cable" option (if you don't count FIOS as cable).

If it is Verizon FIOS, it may not be "cable" but it is an alternative not available in most markets. And they support CableCARD devices like say, TiVo.

[Torgo]

Originally Posted by aindik

I understand if Boston is a bigger Comcast market than Philly, but I can't imagine Philly doesn't make the top 10.

Philly is #4, behind NY, LA, Chicago
http://www.tvb.org/media/file/TVB_Ma..._DMA_RANKS.pdf
I don't think #1-3 are Comcast cities, so I'd say Philly should have been first, not San Francisco

[jrtroo]

Market is different than the City itself. Chicago suburbs are Comcast while the city is RCN.

[aindik]

Originally Posted by Torgo

Philly is #4, behind NY, LA, Chicago
http://www.tvb.org/media/file/TVB_Ma..._DMA_RANKS.pdf
I don't think #1-3 are Comcast cities, so I'd say Philly should have been first, not San Francisco

I meant size in terms of number of Comcast subscribers. Not number of TV households.

[sbiller]

Originally Posted by aindik

Almost every neighborhood in the entire Philly area has Comcast as the default cable company. In almost every neighborhood, it's the only "cable" option (if you don't count FIOS as cable).

In NY, Comcast is only in New Jersey. Most of the rest of the area is Time Warner Cable or Cablevision.

Agreed. I think I'm missing Philadelphia.

http://www.comcastspotlight.com/mark...12/market-info

Philadelphia...
#4 Television Market in the Nation
2.1 Million Cable Subscribers
Cable penetration in Philadelphia is at 80.7% vs the US average of 61.7%

[aindik]

Originally Posted by sbiller

Agreed. I think I'm missing Philadelphia.

http://www.comcastspotlight.com/mark...12/market-info

Philadelphia...
#4 Television Market in the Nation
2.1 Million Cable Subscribers
Cable penetration in Philadelphia is at 80.7% vs the US average of 61.7%

Cable still has a monopoly on local sports in Philadelphia. You can't see the local broadcasts of the Flyers, the 76ers or (with occasional exception) the Phillies unless you have cable, because Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia isn't available on DirecTV or Dish Network. It is available on FIOS, I believe, and on cable companies other than Comcast. But not on satellite.

Comcast is supposed to be negotiating with DirecTV about that after the FCC ruled that the loophole they were using to refuse to do so no longer existed. But after two years, nothing has happened.

[jmpage2]

I would ask if it's coming to Denver suburbs, but seeing as the Denver area seems to be dead last on virtually every deployment from wireless to broadband I will not be holding my breath for 2012.

[sbiller]

TiVo with Comcast xfinity

[sbiller]

source: http://comcast.com/tivo

[sideshot]

has any one in Boston received on demand yet?

[Johncv]

Originally Posted by jrtroo

Actually, this is from the initial press release (emphasis added):

Under the agreement, Comcast will make its Xfinity TV On Demand service accessible on TiVo Premiere set-top boxes in many of its largest markets, with the first expected to be the San Francisco Bay Area with a plan for additional markets to follow. In each of those markets Comcast and TiVo plan to partner on promotion of this new service in retail and other sales channels. Comcast will install TiVo Premiere set-top boxes with its cable service at no additional charge for its customers when the service is available in those markets.


Not sure what it means exactly, but sounds close to an offering of a retail box from/through Comcast.

That the way I read it also, but it could also, mean that if YOU buy a TiVo box Comcast will come out and install everything at no charge to you. Comcast could even officer three months of movie service just so they no longer have to deal with a cable box.

Cisco must be terrify that this may cause Comcast to start using TiVo boxes which may explain why they are now suing TiVo.

There another trend on that here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=488154

[jfalkingham]

Originally Posted by sideshot

has any one in Boston received on demand yet?

Not yet, but there is a new shiny billboard ad on 93 this week like the one in the bay area. Every rumor states 6/6, i heard this myself when calling the xfinity help line, we'll see.

[BP-isMe]

I saw the Billboard on Rte. 93 in Boston too. That prompted me to check here.

Brad

[sbiller]

Originally Posted by BP-isMe

I saw the Billboard on Rte. 93 in Boston too. That prompted me to check here.

Brad

Can someone post a picture of the billboard on Rte. 93?

[jfalkingham]

I wont be down there until next week. Anyone close to 93 south xway, just as you leave the tunnel, there is the tivo billboard. Have your camera ready.

[dcci]

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to receive Xfinity On Demand (assuming successful CableCard pairing, etc.) on a TiVo Premiere WITHOUT having a paid TiVo service subscription?

I wish to use a Windows Media Center as my primary TV set top box/DVR (with a Silicon Dust HDHomeRun Prime), but of course, you can't get Xfinity VOD with that set up. But Xfinity VOD is a wife requirement, so I'm considering getting a basic TiVo Premiere for $100, and a CableCard, and using the TiVo only for access to Xfinity VOD. But I don't want the monthly fee for the TiVo service, which I won't be using. Will that work?

[shadowplay0918]

No, you would need a Tivo service subscription to access Xfinity On Demand.

You could always buy an Xbox for $200 (used for less) and purchase a yearly subscription for Xbox Live Gold for $40ish (if you look around) as a cheaper option to access Xfinity On Demand.

[Minollo]

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I didn't see it in the menu yesterday evening; but I haven't checked today yet...

[GoEagles]

Originally Posted by dcci

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to receive Xfinity On Demand (assuming successful CableCard pairing, etc.) on a TiVo Premiere WITHOUT having a paid TiVo service subscription?

I wish to use a Windows Media Center as my primary TV set top box/DVR (with a Silicon Dust HDHomeRun Prime), but of course, you can't get Xfinity VOD with that set up. But Xfinity VOD is a wife requirement, so I'm considering getting a basic TiVo Premiere for $100, and a CableCard, and using the TiVo only for access to Xfinity VOD. But I don't want the monthly fee for the TiVo service, which I won't be using. Will that work?

Probably not.

[ajwees41]

Originally Posted by dcci

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to receive Xfinity On Demand (assuming successful CableCard pairing, etc.) on a TiVo Premiere WITHOUT having a paid TiVo service subscription?

I wish to use a Windows Media Center as my primary TV set top box/DVR (with a Silicon Dust HDHomeRun Prime), but of course, you can't get Xfinity VOD with that set up. But Xfinity VOD is a wife requirement, so I'm considering getting a basic TiVo Premiere for $100, and a CableCard, and using the TiVo only for access to Xfinity VOD. But I don't want the monthly fee for the TiVo service, which I won't be using. Will that work?

isn't it a menu option in the tivo menu? do you even get menus on a non subed tivo?

[drebbe]

Now that Xfinity OnDemand on Tivo has rolled out to San Fran and Boston, any info/rumors on which market(s) are next?

[mattack]

So I played with an Elite with On Demand for the first time last night... I thought that Find Program results would show On Demand stuff too.. it didn't. (We searched for Big Bang Theory, which IS on On Demand) Is On Demand stuff really only findable via the On Demand menu (which I realize does show up at the bottom of whatever they're calling Now Playing now)?

Though we did realize that apparently you CAN FF it, if you let it buffer a bit. So at least for the Big Bang Theory episode, there was basically just a 2 Broke Girls promo before it.. which apparently we could have skipped by pausing a bit then FFing.. (yes, I'd actually do that.)

I realize with 4 tuners, I'm probably even less likely to use On Demand.. though I can see the usefulness of it in some situations. (Heck, 4 tuners also lets you pad more shows, but also might be a way to deal with clipping issues.. by seeing the missed part via On Demand.)

[innocentfreak]

I wonder if the shows showing up in Find will come later much like they did with Hulu?

[Minollo]

As others have mentioned in this thread, I was able to easily enable the on demand icon and navigate the on demand content now that it's available also in the Boston area; but when I tried playing back content, I would only get 1-2 seconds of video, and then the playback would freeze.
I had to go through several levels of interaction with support folks, first Comcast, then Tivo, then Comcast again; a Comcast technician was dispatched, he spent 90 minutes on the phone with his support guy, and eventually they figured out the problem; he wasn't able to articulate the solution (from what I understood, a higher level support guy was working with the support person he was on the phone with, and that guy just mentioned he enabled some option in the cablecard and asked us to power cycle the Tivo), but now everything works fine - with the exception of the narrow black vertical bars when playing HD on demand (as mentioned by the others here).
Interesting to not that the Comcast technician had *no* clue about Tivo supporting OnDemand in the Boston area until this morning when he read his work order; and that Comcast is moving apparently without a clear set of instructions about what it takes to make cablecards in Tivo work with OnDemand properly; I wonder what will happen when more people and not just early adopters will start using the service...

[lpwcomp]

Originally Posted by Minollo

As others have mentioned in this thread, I was able to easily enable the on demand icon and navigate the on demand content now that it's available also in the Boston area; but when I tried playing back content, I would only get 1-2 seconds of video, and then the playback would freeze.
I had to go through several levels of interaction with support folks, first Comcast, then Tivo, then Comcast again; a Comcast technician was dispatched, he spent 90 minutes on the phone with his support guy, and eventually they figured out the problem; he wasn't able to articulate the solution (from what I understood, a higher level support guy was working with the support person he was on the phone with, and that guy just mentioned he enabled some option in the cablecard and asked us to power cycle the Tivo), but now everything works fine - with the exception of the narrow black vertical bars when playing HD on demand (as mentioned by the others here).
Interesting to not that the Comcast technician had *no* clue about Tivo supporting OnDemand in the Boston area until this morning when he read his work order; and that Comcast is moving apparently without a clear set of instructions about what it takes to make cablecards in Tivo work with OnDemand properly; I wonder what will happen when more people and not just early adopters will start using the service...

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[CharlesH]

Originally Posted by shadowplay0918

You could always buy an Xbox for $200 (used for less) and purchase a yearly subscription for Xbox Live Gold for $40ish (if you look around) as a cheaper option to access Xfinity On Demand.

As I understand it, the Xbox app gives you the equivalent of the Xfinity Internet OnDemand functionality, as you would get on your PC at xfinity.com. This is different from the set-top version of OnDemand, which what TiVo is giving. I understand that more is offered on the set-top version than the Internet version.

[aadam101]

Originally Posted by Minollo

As others have mentioned in this thread, I was able to easily enable the on demand icon and navigate the on demand content now that it's available also in the Boston area; but when I tried playing back content, I would only get 1-2 seconds of video, and then the playback would freeze.
I had to go through several levels of interaction with support folks, first Comcast, then Tivo, then Comcast again; a Comcast technician was dispatched, he spent 90 minutes on the phone with his support guy, and eventually they figured out the problem; he wasn't able to articulate the solution (from what I understood, a higher level support guy was working with the support person he was on the phone with, and that guy just mentioned he enabled some option in the cablecard and asked us to power cycle the Tivo), but now everything works fine - with the exception of the narrow black vertical bars when playing HD on demand (as mentioned by the others here).
Interesting to not that the Comcast technician had *no* clue about Tivo supporting OnDemand in the Boston area until this morning when he read his work order; and that Comcast is moving apparently without a clear set of instructions about what it takes to make cablecards in Tivo work with OnDemand properly; I wonder what will happen when more people and not just early adopters will start using the service...

I am having the same exact problem. I wasn't able to get past the first tier of support. The guy did open a ticket and promise to call me back in a few hours. He never called back......

[shadowplay0918]

Originally Posted by CharlesH

As I understand it, the Xbox app gives you the equivalent of the Xfinity Internet OnDemand functionality, as you would get on your PC at xfinity.com. This is different from the set-top version of OnDemand, which what TiVo is giving. I understand that more is offered on the set-top version than the Internet version.

I had not heard that, thought the Xfinity app was the same (I picked one up for the HBO GO app)....