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Old 02-16-2016, 02:07 PM   #1
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Vinyl

Was looking forward to this but wasn't crazy about the first episode. Richard Hell of the Television gave it a better review than I can.

http://www.stereogum.com/1859526/ric...ounding-board/

The first line - I don’t want to be too hard on Vinyl. I thought it was boring, I thought it was innocuous trash

Well geez, don't be too hard on it.

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Old 02-16-2016, 02:47 PM   #2
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My wife fell asleep in the first hour. I thought it picked up in the second hour. That being said there is a lot of competition at 9PM on Sunday night and this show definitely slips to later viewing. Even with the tease previews at the end I am on the fence if I want to keep it.

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Old 02-16-2016, 03:47 PM   #3
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The two-hour Pilot was directed by Scorsese. I thought it was good. But whenever the lead is not strong enough, it may be hard to continue. I'll keep the SP for now.

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Old 02-16-2016, 07:24 PM   #4
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Normally this kind of show would be right up my alley but... not so much this one... I had no idea Scorsese directed it until the credits.

I also usually like Bobby Cannavale but again - not so much.

Was I bored? Kindof.
Did I wanna fast forward through the musical interludes. Yes.

I also really have no idea why Olivia Wilde would take this role other than she heard Scorsese and said yes...

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Old 02-16-2016, 11:07 PM   #5
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how could anyone make a boring show with 1970's Rock n roll and The New York Dolls as the backdrop?

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Old 02-17-2016, 08:01 AM   #6
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I thought it was boring too. I was really looking forward to this one, but it really disappointed me. I'll give it another episode or two to see if it gets better.

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Old 02-17-2016, 03:22 PM   #7
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Same here. Watching a bunch of cokeheads for a couple hours is not my idea of a good time. And the voiceover is cringe-inducing.

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Old 02-17-2016, 03:42 PM   #8
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Same here. Watching a bunch of cokeheads for a couple hours is not my idea of a good time. And the voiceover is cringe-inducing.
I think that was one of the things I found off-putting. I'm not really a prude when it comes to drugs and I understand it's part of the culture of Rock and Roll, but I found it a bit much. Also all the jumping around between times and I'm really not sure who all the players are yet. The soundtrack was pretty good though.

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Old 02-17-2016, 04:09 PM   #9
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I found it ok. Apparently some critics say it gets better a few episodes in. I'll keep watching for now.

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Old 02-18-2016, 09:03 PM   #10
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I wasn't all the thrilled with it either. I think the problem is, I don't really appreciate Scorsese's style, thus is was just wierd to me at times.

I'll stick with it a couple mroe episodes, but it had better show me something int he next couple or I'm out.

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Old 02-18-2016, 09:22 PM   #11
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The only thing going for it (be warned, major spoiler)...

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is the murder of the Dice character and his part in it.

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Old 02-18-2016, 09:52 PM   #12
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The only thing going for it (be warned, major spoiler)...

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is the murder of the Dice character and his part in it.
Yea, that's the of the few things that has me intrigued for next week.

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Old 02-18-2016, 11:07 PM   #13
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ok, finally watched it. Not nearly as boring as people have said. A little slow at times, maybe. But I guess I was enjoying all the references and needle drops from an era that produced some of the greatest music in rock history. That's a good enough starting point for me....

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ok, finally watched it. Not nearly as boring as people have said. A little slow at times, maybe. But I guess I was enjoying all the references and needle drops from an era that produced some of the greatest music in rock history. That's a good enough starting point for me....
The music was the show's saving grace. The characters and plot (or lack thereof), not so much.

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Old 02-19-2016, 08:20 AM   #15
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The music was the show's saving grace. The characters and plot (or lack thereof), not so much.
I enjoyed the plot overall. The music was the current that flowed through the entire episode and I didn't care for a large portion of it. This show just reminds me that Treme had great music throughout and really bound the show together in a way that this show likely never will.

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Old 02-19-2016, 08:38 AM   #16
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I liked the music, but often it went on WAY too long.

I suspect they're heading into a fish-out-of-water story with this 50s/60s record exec diving into the (proto-) punk world. Which could be interesting.

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Old 02-19-2016, 09:06 PM   #17
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That scene where the whole building came crashing down, did that really happen? I don't remember that

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Old 02-19-2016, 09:21 PM   #18
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That scene where the whole building came crashing down, did that really happen? I don't remember that
It is not clear. He took a lot of drugs just before that, so it could have been an extended hallucination.

It seems likely that he would have suffered more serious injuries if it were real, so I would bet on it being a hallucination. Another possibility is that is was partially a hallucination and partially real. Maybe something bad happened, but not the entire building coming down -- his mind just modified whatever it was really to seem like the building collapsed.

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Old 02-21-2016, 09:15 PM   #19
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Finally watched this. I liked the music, but the early 70s was my era, so I'm biased. And the story has potential. But this pilot was in some serious need of editing. I know, Scorsese and all, but does no one have the balls to tell him it needs a few slices?

Loved most of the characters. Ray Romano was gold. Liked the fledgling A&R girl. Olivia Wilde stunk. Have no interest in watching a witch whose character I don't care about. Not sure why the lawyer has a job, he's so inept.

But jeez, edit it! The scene with Buck Rogers went on waaay too long. Both times. And the long, introspective scenes where (I'm guessing) we're supposed to watch Richie as he has his revelation, his epiphany... mostly boring.

I'll give it another shot, but don't have high hopes. Usually any show where I keep wondering, "Is it over yet?" doesn't make the cut. But this is not TV, this is HBO. So it gets one more week.

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Old 02-22-2016, 12:38 AM   #20
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That scene where the whole building came crashing down, did that really happen? I don't remember that
Yeah, it's not something I remember and I grew up in the NY area.

I'm thinking it was a metaphor. I kind of saw it as Frankenstein rising from the ashes. I'm expecting some sort of epiphany or rebirth in episode 2.

I've only watched episode 1 so far. 2 hours was 2 long. I probably would have bailed, but my wife wanted to continue watching it.

The highlight for me is the cinematography. Some of the shots are stunning.

I don't have the "stereo" hooked up yet, so I think we missed something by only listening via the TV speakers. It's been 4 months since we moved. I guess this will give some incentive to hook it up so we can enjoy the 5:1 sound track.

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The highlight for me is the cinematography. Some of the shots are stunning.
Well, it was Scorcese!

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I'm 45 minutes in and pretty much gave up...I figured I'd come here to see if it's worth sticking with it.

I WANT to like this show so I think I'll give it until episode 4 to make a final decision. I did have to FF through all the singing.

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Old 02-22-2016, 07:44 AM   #23
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One thing that was inaccurate was Buck Rogers' reference to lime disease. Lime disease wasn't on anybody's radar until something like 1990.

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One thing that was inaccurate was Buck Rogers' reference to lime disease. Lime disease wasn't on anybody's radar until something like 1990.
Are you sure? I vaguely recall hearing about it my entire adult life (born 1960).

Then again, I live near an area susceptible to it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_di...e_Risk_Map.gif (For some reason, the image wouldn't show in my post)

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That scene where the whole building came crashing down, did that really happen? I don't remember that
Something I was reading elsewhere (on a review of Vinyl that didn't really think there was much chance for it) said that there was some sort of similar building collapse, but that the New York Dolls weren't playing there at the time.

Here's info on the building:
http://www.vulture.com/2016/02/vinyl...backstory.html

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Are you sure? I vaguely recall hearing about it my entire adult life (born 1960).

Then again, I live near an area susceptible to it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_di...e_Risk_Map.gif (For some reason, the image wouldn't show in my post)
I'm not sure. Limes disease was around, but it didn't rise to prominence until the deer population exploded. With the increase in deer population came an increase in deer ticks. What was a very rare occurrence (limes) also had a rapid increase in the number of cases. This wasn't until at least the mid eighties.

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Watched the second episode. I thought this was much better. The fact that it was only an hour helped. We had the character introduction with the pilot episode. Now we get to see where they are going.

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I'm not sure. Limes disease was around...
It is Lyme disease, after the town in Connecticut, not "lime" disease, which sounds like it is something that afflicts fruit trees.

The disease has been known as Lyme disease since 1976.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease#History

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It is Lyme disease, after the town in Connecticut, not "lime" disease, which sounds like it is something that afflicts fruit trees.

The disease has been known as Lyme disease since 1976.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease#History
Oops. Right. Lyme. I knew that.

My original point was that Buck Rogers wouldn't have referenced it back in 1973. Basically sort of an anachronism.

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I can't get past the first 15 minutes. I've honestly tried a half dozen times.

I give up.

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