The Eagle has Landed... - Page 6

jonphil · 02-07-2011, 02:06 PM

@smokie and big_dirk
When you had Tivo fitted were you granted access to the Tivo forum on the Virgin main forums which the '1000' people seem to have been given access too.
I assume it's going to be a public forum eventually, but hoping us S1 people aren't going to be locked out of the Virgin forums where we maybe able to help some Tivo newbies

big_dirk · 02-07-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jonphil

@smokie and big_dirk
When you had Tivo fitted were you granted access to the Tivo forum on the Virgin main forums which the '1000' people seem to have been given access too.
I assume it's going to be a public forum eventually, but hoping us S1 people aren't going to be locked out of the Virgin forums where we maybe able to help some Tivo newbies

never even knew there was one! I dont see a TiVo forum @ http://community.virginmedia.com/ though.

frobozz · 02-07-2011, 02:45 PM

Tivo forum can be found at:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Tivo/ct-p/Tivo

but only if you have been granted access. I haven't.

jonphil · 02-07-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frobozz

Tivo forum can be found at:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Tivo/ct-p/Tivo

but only if you have been granted access. I haven't.

Which is what I'm getting at, surely everyone who has been given a Tivo should be granted access to this hidden forum?
Surely Virgin won't make this forum exclusive to the select 1000 who got a Tivo for free. I don't mind that people have been lucky enough to get a Tivo for free but would find it odd if S1 people who have paid for the Tivo and getting it early won't get access.
Hoping this won't be the case, I know access to the hidden forum may not seem much but why hide it from us?

big_dirk · 02-07-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frobozz

Tivo forum can be found at:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Tivo/ct-p/Tivo

but only if you have been granted access. I haven't.

I get "Sorry, you do not have sufficient privileges for that action.
Please click the Back button on your browser."

VirginMediaPhil · 02-07-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by big_dirk

Hi John, I posted a Youtube video of my experience with the new TiVo. I am regretful to admit that after 2 days with it now, the input lag is very disappointing in my opinion. I'd say its slower than my S1 TiVo and my V+ HD box.

Your video has been re-posted on two blogs, on the 'VMHD' blog one commenter says that "At this moment in time this is not the finished article, there is still a fair bit of testing going on."

http://vmhd.blogspot.com/2011/02/vir...in-action.html

Just in case you are wondering, the other blog is:
http://virgintivo.blogspot.com/2011/...real-life.html

Steve5424 · 02-07-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by big_dirk

when the TV guide is up, I personally find going up and down on that screen faster than in the menus.

Channel changes aren't too bad, about the same as my V+ HD box, but I'd still like them faster really too

Also one issue for me is that the HD menus sometimes change to SD. This can be seen on my videos.

Don't want to sound so down about it, the functionality and the visuals of the menus are the business. Not watched enough yet to get any suggestions though!

The US TiVo still has those SD menus when going into the settings menus too. I don't think they have plans to change them at the moment.

jonphil · 02-08-2011, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve5424

The US TiVo still has those SD menus when going into the settings menus too. I don't think they have plans to change them at the moment.

Looks a bit ugly to have the 2 different versions, but not so bad if they are menus that aren't used too often.

warrenrb · 02-08-2011, 03:35 AM

For all the excitement about the new interface, I've mentioned here before that I thought it looked a bit 'busy' - especially with those images at the top. Now that the interface has been seen in action and looks a little slow, I would hate to think that we have to sacrifice speed because of that 'suggestions bar' or whatever it's called having to load and draw each time.

You would have thought that the progress in processor speed over the last 10 years or so would mean there was no way in hell the interface could be slower that our S1s, right? Even if it IS doing a bit more now.

Here's hoping the rumoured tweaking and improvements are true. Otherwise, it would be nice if you could turn the superfluous gubbins off if you so desired? (I doubt it though - any options for the display of this Smokie/Big_dirk? Also, if you have kids, I assume the imagery up there will always be family friendly?) It made me laugh that in the slick Virgin video, they are all top-end US shows, but in the shots posted here, they are Tellytubbies and Jeremy Kyle...

big_dirk · 02-08-2011, 04:52 AM

thanks for posting them VM Phil! whooaaaaaa i'm famous!

John McE · 02-08-2011, 04:55 AM

Thanks smokie and big_dirk for your replies. I presume it was big_dirk's video that I saw. Of course Virgin would say they are hoping to get it running faster, but I wonder if they actually will?

Instant response is an important point of why people so enjoy using their existing TIVOs, and if it's a choice between speed and a whole load of info. about other programs cluttering up the screen (that I am not generally interested in), I'd go for speed every time.

7 days to go until I get my hands on one... oh boy, is time dragging at the moment!

Steve5424 · 02-08-2011, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by John McE

Thanks smokie and big_dirk for your replies. I presume it was big_dirk's video that I saw. Of course Virgin would say they are hoping to get it running faster, but I wonder if they actually will?

Instant response is an important point of why people so enjoy using their existing TIVOs, and if it's a choice between speed and a whole load of info. about other programs cluttering up the screen (that I am not generally interested in), I'd go for speed every time.

7 days to go until I get my hands on one... oh boy, is time dragging at the moment!

Honestly it's not as slow as it seems in that video. It will get faster though as the software gets updated over time.

Moe UK · 02-08-2011, 03:04 PM

For those lucky enough to have their Tivo's already can you post a video of the Youtube app or answer the following:

Can you select the different quality settings in a youtube video?

Are you able to watch the 4oD or 5 on demand shows from youtube?

jonphil · 02-08-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Moe UK

For those lucky enough to have their Tivo's already can you post a video of the Youtube app or answer the following:

Can you select the different quality settings in a youtube video?

Are you able to watch the 4oD or 5 on demand shows from youtube?

I'd love to know that too, with so much Youtube content now available in HD it would be nice to have the option to select the higher quality streams.

The Wishlist · 02-08-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by big_dirk

thanks for posting them VM Phil! whooaaaaaa i'm famous!

Thank you big_dirk.

....that's by far the most popular post of the week on my TiVo Blog. I just hope VM speed things up a tad.

big_dirk · 02-08-2011, 03:33 PM

I'll do another video for you of that

just creating my first 'blog' now!

big_dirk · 02-08-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Moe UK

For those lucky enough to have their Tivo's already can you post a video of the Youtube app or answer the following:

Can you select the different quality settings in a youtube video?

Are you able to watch the 4oD or 5 on demand shows from youtube?

Moe, Not sure but you'll be able to watch 4oD and 5 od stuff anyway even if its not through youtube, you can either search the on demand stuff int he menu or skiip back by 7 days through the EPG and it has an icon of what stuff is available on demand, then just click to watch. It's pretty cool.

I took this video on my blog to show you the youtube but besides the fact it didn't work, I thought it may be worth uploading the video to show a very slow response I encountered!

The Wishlist · 02-08-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by big_dirk

Moe, Not sure but you'll be able to watch 4oD and 5 od stuff anyway even if its not through youtube, you can either search the on demand stuff int he menu or skiip back by 7 days through the EPG and it has an icon of what stuff is available on demand, then just click to watch. It's pretty cool.

I took this video on my blog to show you the youtube but besides the fact it didn't work, I thought it may be worth uploading the video to show a very slow response I encountered!

Erm.....lets hope Virgin speed that up, big time.

I've added a post and created a link to your blog, nice work.

big_dirk · 02-09-2011, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Wishlist

Erm.....lets hope Virgin speed that up, big time.

I've added a post and created a link to your blog, nice work.

I'm hearing some people on the web saying that VM are going to speed it up, and some people saying the CPU they've chosen is simply too slow. Hopefully that video doesn't worry people too much as that is probably the longest I've had to wait for a response from a button press since I've had the box.

One thing I've realised I've not yet done is reboot the thing. I'm not expecting that to help, however. As I'm assuming its linux under the hood which doesn't really help to reboot unlike Windows.

Another problem I have forgotten to mention is that since I had the TiVo, my V HD (also Cisco) box upstairs has stopped receiving any channels bar free ones.

smokie · 02-09-2011, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by big_dirk

Another problem I have forgotten to mention is that since I had the TiVo, my V HD (also Cisco) box upstairs has stopped receiving any channels bar free ones.

Localised problem, don't have it here... It did happen once before when they "attended to" one of the V+ boxes. I think they changed services on the wrong card initially, then put it right on the broken one but forgot to re-instate on the one they'd messed up

big_dirk · 02-09-2011, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by smokie

Localised problem, don't have it here... It did happen once before when they "attended to" one of the V+ boxes. I think they changed services on the wrong card initially, then put it right on the broken one but forgot to re-instate on the one they'd messed up

hopefully it'lll just be a quick call to 151 then! (famous last words!)

how are you finding the speed of the interface, time taken to get from a broadcast to Home screen mate? Have you seen the video I took on my blog last night?

smokie · 02-09-2011, 05:30 AM

Yep, had a look at your video. Must admit I'm not the main telly watcher in the house, and we have kept the V+ box while we run down the recordings on it, so not much watching being done through TiVo, although hopefully it's recording stuff.

I've only really noticed slow responses when watching catch up - seems pretty good the rest of the time - menus are quick enough and response is fine in recordings or live tv, as far as I can tell.

deshepherd · 02-09-2011, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by big_dirk

I'm hearing some people on the web saying that VM are going to speed it up, and some people saying the CPU they've chosen is simply too slow.

Done a little research ... the TiVo Premiere has dual MIPS processors running at 400MHz ... but at launch TiVo software was not stable running on two cores so they restricted it to single core with a promise that the second would be enabled by a software update ... and it appears this software update may not have happened yet - which makes the "third tuner coming via software update" promise a little worrying.

smokie · 02-09-2011, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by deshepherd

Done a little research ... the TiVo Premiere has dual MIPS processors running at 400MHz ... but at launch TiVo software was not stable running on two cores so they restricted it to single core with a promise that the second would be enabled by a software update ... and it appears this software update may not have happened yet - which makes the "third tuner coming via software update" promise a little worrying.

I have been thinking about this - I'm paying £3 extra for a non-fully functional box, might ask them for a refund. Fat chance though!

deshepherd · 02-09-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by smokie

I have been thinking about this - I'm paying £3 extra for a non-fully functional box, might ask them for a refund. Fat chance though!

Don't you have a 28 day "cooling off" period? ... so you've about 3 more weeks to tell "no thanks - can I have my old box back please"

Steve5424 · 02-09-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by deshepherd

Done a little research ... the TiVo Premiere has dual MIPS processors running at 400MHz ... but at launch TiVo software was not stable running on two cores so they restricted it to single core with a promise that the second would be enabled by a software update ... and it appears this software update may not have happened yet - which makes the "third tuner coming via software update" promise a little worrying.

Why does it make it worrying? The VM TiVo isn't the same as TiVo Premiere.

Major dude · 02-09-2011, 09:29 AM

I was in my local VM shop and they had a TiVo on display. Also the sales assistant had done some training.
The bad news is that he said it will only record two programmes at the same time or one programme and live TV unlike V+ that will record two programmes and allow live viewing of a third. I thought that cannot be right, so later on I managed to have a play and sure enough once I had started two recording on two channels it would not channel change without stopping one of the recordings. Also when I tried to record two HD channels a message come up about clipping a recording and then it crashed. Rebooting took an age with no video.
The good news is that response was quick to access most screens as far as I could judge.
I had expected to be able to record two programmes and to view a third live until the software update and then record on all three tuners.

Can you check this out Smokie or Big_dirk as I am a little worried?

TCM2007 · 02-09-2011, 09:41 AM

I thought it was advertised as dual tuner until the software update to enable the third? Which is what you describe.

passingbat · 02-09-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TCM2007

I thought it was advertised as dual tuner until the software update to enable the third? Which is what you describe.

It was. It was advertised right from launch that it would initially have 2 tuners. The 3rd will come via software update in March. I don't believe the 3rd tuner records?

OzSat · 02-09-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TCM2007

I thought it was advertised as dual tuner until the software update to enable the third? Which is what you describe.

It was about the only definate thing we know about it in advance.