The Eagle has Landed...

smokie · 02-02-2011, 08:08 AM

Or at least it's on it's way - Virgin engineer just called to say arrival in 20 minutes! Woo hoo!!

Will report back once it's in...

jonphil · 02-02-2011, 08:23 AM

lucky you, some people are still waiting on the phone call

Ovit-UK · 02-02-2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by smokie

Or at least it's on it's way - Virgin engineer just called to say arrival in 20 minutes! Woo hoo!!

Will report back once it's in...

Cool

Can we all come round yours tonight then.

swanny · 02-02-2011, 08:38 AM

Nice one Smokie. We expect a full report later on sir

I am still looking at my phone willing it to ring.

sjp · 02-02-2011, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by smokie

Or at least it's on it's way - Virgin engineer just called to say arrival in 20 minutes! Woo hoo!!

Will report back once it's in...

if you're getting a full cable from the door install any chance you could bug the engineers for cable types etc. I might want to run the cables myself to ensure wife approval - they may want to take the most direct route which, of course, is the most unsightly route.

I know they switch from the external dual shotgun cable once inside the house so it'll be from that junction box onwards.

any restrictions on how tight an angle the coax cable can "turn" (going back to seriously old but somewhat high speed for it's day network coax ethernet cable - I know, I'm old).

thanks

stuart

smokie · 02-02-2011, 09:19 AM

He arrived at 14:15 and it's now 15:10 and he's gone. Longest part was the initial software download, followed by the EPG collection "phone home" we know and love.

Initial impressions are that it's like my S1 but much better!!

Media Access Key "temporarily Not Available"

Any specific questions? (I missed the one above re cable quality, sorry)

jonphil · 02-02-2011, 09:25 AM

Maybe you have to have it plugged into your home network to get a IP address for the Media Access Key. Could be wrong but maybe it's generated when it see's a network?

smokie · 02-02-2011, 09:55 AM

I now have my access key, but don't know what to do with it

It's plugged in on the old TiVo network connection - can't see a new device on my router though, and no lights on ethernet socket on TiVo. Will try a reboot etc...

There is no RF output so I have to think of another way to pipe TV into the kitchen.

Also, like V+, if you are using HD output the SCART is disabled.

mikerr · 02-02-2011, 10:04 AM

Download Tivo Desktop (free)

https://www3.tivo.com/store/accessories-software.do

It will ask for the media access key during installation.

Then come back on here and tell us if you can transfer shows on and off successfully !

spitfires · 02-02-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by smokie

[snip details of VMTivo installation]

Nice one - congratulations!

mikerr · 02-02-2011, 10:32 AM

Yep - congrats - and how did you get an install so early?
The installers must have had early training in your area.

Everyone else seems to be 15th or later - me included... waiting impatiently!

okonski_uk · 02-02-2011, 10:45 AM

WHAT I'd really like to know is whether you need to link TiVo to your home network in addition to its integral network connection, as I'd need to provide a CAT5 link from the TiVo box and my router. I can't seem to see any reference to this on the docs online - and as the US version seems to refer to a non-cable interface, it's getting confusing!

okonski_uk · 02-02-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mikerr

Download Tivo Desktop (free)

https://www3.tivo.com/store/accessories-software.do

It will ask for the media access key during installation.
!

However before you even get to that stage, you have to select which territory you are in, and the UK isn't one of them!

jonphil · 02-02-2011, 11:04 AM

Someone said the cat5 is just for your own internal network and the 10mb connection is the same Tv connection?

swanny · 02-02-2011, 11:04 AM

smokie,

Did you get option to keep your V+ box?

Also just for your info, when booking my TiVo install date earlier I tried to get it sooner that the Feb 16th date I was offered. The guy said Feb 15th was earliest install date, I mentioned your date and that the engineer had been to install it and he says you are exaggerating. lol.

smokie · 02-02-2011, 11:30 AM

Yes, he took away a Samsung (Had to speak to Virgin to arrange that).

The online TiVo help talks about Media Access Key (http://*******.com/6gnlgpt) which implies it should work, but it isn't mentioned in the documentation.

Media Desktop doesn't see a TiVo on my home network, although if it's trying to connect wirelessly it won't because I have MAC filtering - and I can't see any MAC for wireless. I don't think the ethernet port is enabled.

EDIT Replace the stars with V IRGINMEDIA - obviously swear filter doesn't like that phrase.

nbaker · 02-02-2011, 11:31 AM

Wheres the pics then Smokie

Steve5424 · 02-02-2011, 11:33 AM

Your install dates will just depend on what is available for your area.

jonphil · 02-02-2011, 11:50 AM

yeah! pictures please smokie, we all want to see it in action

deshepherd · 02-02-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mikerr

Yep - congrats - and how did you get an install so early?
The installers must have had early training in your area.

Everyone else seems to be 15th or later - me included... waiting impatiently!

Well I just called the number that Stuart left when we called a couple of days ago when my wife did her default "you'll need to speak to my husband" response to anyone phoning selling things (and claimed I'd not told her that VM would probably call about TiVo and the answer was "yes please") and the result is I've got an install on friday 11th!

bradleys · 02-02-2011, 01:00 PM

If you just want to pull content from your TiVo, you can use kmttg...

http://code.google.com/p/kmttg/

If you want to serve content from your PC to the TiVo you will need either TiVo desktop or PyTiVo. Not an easy install - but I like it better than TiVo desktop.

http://pytivo.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/PyTivo

Glad to see you guys finally have your TiVo's. How is the UI? Do you see it swapping from HDUI back to the SDUI when you drill down into settings, etc...?

jonphil · 02-02-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bradleys

If you just want to pull content from your TiVo, you can use kmttg...

http://code.google.com/p/kmttg/

If you want to serve content from your PC to the TiVo you will need either TiVo desktop or PyTiVo. Not an easy install - but I like it better than TiVo desktop.

http://pytivo.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/PyTivo

Glad to see you guys finally have your TiVo's. How is the UI? Do you see it swapping from HDUI back to the SDUI when you drill down into settings, etc...?

Could be worth putting this in a sticky post, sounds like it will be useful but be easier to find if it's in a different thread

davidthornton · 02-02-2011, 01:32 PM

Is the "pick any programme from the EPG from the past 7 days and watch it" feature working?

Steve5424 · 02-02-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by davidthornton

Is the "pick any programme from the EPG from the past 7 days and watch it" feature working?

Its not any programme. Only whats part of the catch up on demand service. It works though.

davidthornton · 02-02-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve5424

Its not any programme. Only whats part of the catch up on demand service. It works though.

I've swung back and forth between thinking it was simply a different way of displaying the current Virgin Media Catchup service vs. it being an enhanced feature to allow the viewing of any programme, that was aired on any channel available on the Virgin Media network within the past 7 days. The Flash Video presentation on VM's site wasn't clear enough and some of the VM techs I have spoken to today think that it is the latter, so I'd wondered again.

cwaring · 02-02-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by davidthornton

...it [is] simply a different way of displaying the current Virgin Media Catchup service

Yes. That's right.

hokkers999 · 02-02-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by smokie

[snip]

Also, like V+, if you are using HD output the SCART is disabled.

and they call this progress do they, 2011 h/w and it can't even output two separate streams.

You eager beavers who couldn't wait to bend over and take one up the 'arris for vm are really getting shafted aren't you?

mikerr · 02-02-2011, 02:34 PM

Can you save non recording wishlists, and does "view upcoming showings" then list catchup episodes?

If that's correct - then we can setup indexes into the catchup service via wishlists.
I.e. Why bother tying up a tuner for The Gadget Show if it's always on catchup.
Storing it as a wishlist would save having to type stuff in each time.

With the current V+ (or V) on demand it doesn't store searches, so watch one episode on demand, and you'll then have to do the search again for the next episode

13 days to go....

davidthornton · 02-02-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hokkers999

and they call this progress do they, 2011 h/w and it can't even output two separate streams.

You eager beavers who couldn't wait to bend over and take one up the 'arris for vm are really getting shafted aren't you?

Wouldn't a simple HDMI splitter box, available from many sources, do the job? I use one with a Sky+ HD box to output HD programmes to a computer for converting to MPEG whilst still being able to watch what's going on via the television.

hokkers999 · 02-02-2011, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mikerr

[snip]

I.e. Why bother tying up a tuner for The Gadget Show if it's always on catchup.
Storing it as a wishlist would save having to type stuff in each time.

Because stuff only stays on catch up for 7 days?