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07-31-2010, 08:21 AM
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why doesn't Tivo support playon?
this is wonderful cheap software that I can use on both my Directv HR-20 and my Netgear EVA-9150 and a variety of other devices
it allows me to watch MTV, Vevo, Hulu (including Hulu Plus now if a subscriber) plus a bunch of other internet channels. Not only that, but the sharing of photos, videos and music from your PC is simple, much easier than Tivo Desktop Plus
the Hulu Plus user queue is awesome, works just like Netflix streaming
to me Tivo support should be a no brainer
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07-31-2010, 09:44 AM
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FUBAR
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Why doesn't Tivo support streaming MRV?
Why doesn't Tivo support cooperative scheduling?
Why doesn't Tivo support management of all Tivos from one?
Why doesn't Tivo support clear QAM?
Why did Tivo release a half-baked Tivo Premiere UI, with no new hardware features other than increased horsepower?
The mind boggles...
Seriously, there's tons of stuff they could do, but don't.
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08-01-2010, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowbiscuit
Why doesn't Tivo support streaming MRV?
Why doesn't Tivo support cooperative scheduling?
Why doesn't Tivo support management of all Tivos from one?
Why doesn't Tivo support clear QAM?
Why did Tivo release a half-baked Tivo Premiere UI, with no new hardware features other than increased horsepower?
The mind boggles...
Seriously, there's tons of stuff they could do, but don't.
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all I know is if my somewhat mediocre Directv HR-20 can support this there is no good reason Tivo can't. Hulu alone makes it a must have thing
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08-01-2010, 05:04 PM
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En Fuego
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There's a perfectly good reason: it's not their business model. They tend not to bite the hands that feed them (i.e. content producers). Supporting software that pipes Hulu to their box is likely not in their game plan.
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08-01-2010, 06:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowbiscuit
Why doesn't Tivo support clear QAM?
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Seriously, there's tons of stuff they could do, but don't.
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http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/298
It would be a huge support nightmare for the average Joe. I don't pay close attention to this but I know of some people at work who use HDHomeRun and other clear QAM solutions for their PCs and have to rescan, have channel mappings get busted, etc.
There isn't even a good list of mapping for some providers. I checked http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun...lineup_2821831 (I'm on Verizon FiOS) when I tried to use my TV's clear QAM tuner when my TiVo HD's drive went belly up. OMG, what a fricking mess the mapping was. The 50-54 channels listed means that 400+ (wild guess) channels are missing or are encrypted anyway.
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08-02-2010, 07:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TolloNodre
There's a perfectly good reason: it's not their business model. They tend not to bite the hands that feed them (i.e. content producers). Supporting software that pipes Hulu to their box is likely not in their game plan.
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I'm sure they can cut a deal to get a cut of Hulu Plus subscriptions, but that makes too much sense 
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08-02-2010, 09:58 AM
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There are reasons why tivo doesn't offer the features slowbiscuit mentioned in his post. Reasons may include hardware limitations, cost to support and how much new revenue adding a feature will produce.
I have no idea why tivo doesn't work with PlayOn. It would be nice if tivo could function as a DNLA compliant device. I don't know if it is a hardware issue.
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08-02-2010, 11:33 AM
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FUBAR
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Apologies are always welcome, it seems.
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08-02-2010, 01:35 PM
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VAWHEELS
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tivoknucklehead
this is wonderful cheap software that I can use on both my Directv HR-20 and my Netgear EVA-9150 and a variety of other devices
it allows me to watch MTV, Vevo, Hulu (including Hulu Plus now if a subscriber) plus a bunch of other internet channels. Not only that, but the sharing of photos, videos and music from your PC is simple, much easier than Tivo Desktop Plus
the Hulu Plus user queue is awesome, works just like Netflix streaming
to me Tivo support should be a no brainer
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I would not buy any DVR, TV, DVD Player, etc that wasn't DNLA. PlayOn is great. I run it off my 510x WHS. (23 watts of elect) There is no excuse for the Tivo 4 not being DNLA, my Samsung LNB750 TV has it. Everything is going DNLA.
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08-02-2010, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCSMITH
I would not buy any DVR, TV, DVD Player, etc that wasn't DNLA. PlayOn is great. I run it off my 510x WHS. (23 watts of elect) There is no excuse for the Tivo 4 not being DNLA, my Samsung LNB750 TV has it. Everything is going DNLA.
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I used to recommend Tivo to everyone but those days are long gone. Great interface, but the features are years behind the times
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08-02-2010, 05:25 PM
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En Fuego
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Interest in DLNA peaked in 2007 and isn't going anywhere, period.
And why come to a forum to whine about something you don't want and don't even recommend? Are you seriously that bored with your life? Or are you unemployed politicians or something?
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08-02-2010, 06:32 PM
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VAWHEELS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TolloNodre
There's a perfectly good reason: it's not their business model. They tend not to bite the hands that feed them (i.e. content producers). Supporting software that pipes Hulu to their box is likely not in their game plan.
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I don't understand your statement, "They tend not to bite the hands that feed them (i.e. content producers)" How do these "content producers" differ from the content producers on Hulu?  Is this like the Crips and Bloods, East Coast - West Coast ?
"There's a perfectly good reason: it's not their business model." Well "something wrong" with their business model.
"Supporting software that pipes Hulu to their box is likely not in their game plan." Just give us DLNA we will do the rest. 
Tivo was cutting edge at one time. I have not been "WOWed" since 2006 with HD Tivos. I still don't understand why Tivos don't stream video, you have to copy the whole show to the Tivo you want to watch on ??? My ReplayTV did this years ago.
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08-02-2010, 06:51 PM
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VAWHEELS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TolloNodre
Interest in DLNA peaked in 2007 and isn't going anywhere, period.
And why come to a forum to whine about something you don't want and don't even recommend? Are you seriously that bored with your life? Or are you unemployed politicians or something?
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"Interest in DLNA peaked in 2007 and isn't going anywhere, period."
Not true, just look around at TVs from Samsung, BR Players from LG, Moxi DVRs and 60 plus Content Streamers.
CK here : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=39
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08-02-2010, 07:10 PM
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En Fuego
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Originally Posted by OCSMITH
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In a country where barely half the households even have a DVR that stuff is not relevant. In the bubble world of digital geeks, perhaps - but not for the rest of us.
Heck, most people don't even know if they're watching HD content or not on their 'big screens' - they certainly don't know or care about the rest...
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08-02-2010, 07:40 PM
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VAWHEELS
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TolloNodre
In a country where barely half the households even have a DVR that stuff is not relevant. In the bubble world of digital geeks, perhaps - but not for the rest of us.
Heck, most people don't even know if they're watching HD content or not on their 'big screens' - they certainly don't know or care about the rest...
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LOL
I have had those over 50 say that my HDTV hurts they're eyes because it is so clear, Jay Leno or PBS Nature.
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Last edited by OCSMITH : 08-02-2010 at 08:11 PM.
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08-03-2010, 08:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TolloNodre
Interest in DLNA peaked in 2007 and isn't going anywhere, period.
And why come to a forum to whine about something you don't want and don't even recommend? Are you seriously that bored with your life? Or are you unemployed politicians or something?
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I still like my Tivo and am waiting for a proper explanation as to why it is not a DLNA device. Posts like yours aren't helpful. Like I said, Hulu on Tivo seems like a natural fit, especially now that Hulu Plus is a worthy rival to Netflix streaming
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