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Old 05-15-2015, 08:54 AM   #1
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Wayward Pines: Pilot - "Where Paradise Is Home" OAD 5-14-2015

So I thought I would start a thread for this show. I thought about a whole season thread but this seems like more of a show that is better served with individual topics.

I liked the pilot episode quite a bit. I was very fearful that they would stray very far from the book but happily it seems like they stuck to the story in the book pretty faithfully. It may help that the book's author is listed as a Consulting Producer.

I have read the books so I have to be careful of what I say in these threads.

I will say that I think they went through a pretty good chunk of the first book in one episode. Paced correctly I could see them getting through the trilogy in 10 episodes (they are not big books coming in at just over 300 pages each).

I've got to say though that knowing the whole story from the books hinders the enjoyment of trying to figure out exactly what is going on.

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Old 05-15-2015, 09:00 AM   #2
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Just finished watching...not overly impressed, but I'll give it a chance. Sepinwall had previewed the first five episodes, and there's a minor spoiler in his comments
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an explanation is revealed in ep 5.
He's not impressed through those first five, but, then I don't always agree with him...

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I have not read the books and am somewhat interested, I did read one of the preview/reviews where it says something I approve of is coming
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Ep05 is called The Truth and it answers a lot of questions

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It's hard to know how to respond to this thread having read the books. Some things I may not think are not a spoiler others may see as one. But I will say that the spoilers in the previous posts definitely seem true to the way things unfolded in the books.

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I really liked this, though it's hard to tell if it will be consistently good. Great cast, interesting story. I wish M. Night Shyamalan was a bit more involved. He has written and directed some great films (though not recently).

I loved the homage to LOST in the opening scene, with the closeup of Matt Dillon's eye opening as he was lying on his back in the forest.

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I really liked this, though it's hard to tell if it will be consistently good. Great cast, interesting story. I wish M. Night Shyamalan was a bit more involved. He has written and directed some great films (though not recently).

I loved the homage to LOST in the opening scene, with the closeup of Matt Dillon's eye opening as he was lying on his back in the forest.
Yep- my wife was looking at her phone when I started the show last night. I had to rewind and ask her if it reminded her of anything. Great call-out to Lost.

I enjoyed the first episode. Haven't read the books. Might have to put them on my listening list if I keep enjoying the show.

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I enjoyed the first episode quite a bit. Sepinwall and Fienberg discussed this on their weekly podcast. Fienberg has read the books and seemed to enjoy the show more than Sepinwall did (Alan hasn't read the books). Fienberg did say that he thought (spoiler about comparison between books and shows, not anything about plot):

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the characters in the books were very poorly fleshed out and that the TV show does a much better job populating the world with realistic characters.


Definitely interested to see where this is going.

Ratings weren't great - 1.0 in the 18-49 demo, but since this is a limited-run series and the rest of the episodes will air outside the traditional TV season, I think ratings shouldn't really matter.

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I read and enjoyed the books. I too thought this first episode covered a huge amount of ground, but they did it pretty well and I'm sure they wanted to hook people and didn't want them to get bored.

That said, I hope they slow it down a bit in upcoming episodes.

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When he stole the car and drove out of the town only to have the road take him right back into town, that reminded me of another summer "limited event" series from a couple years ago: Persons Unknown.

So the final scene explains why he can't leave the town. But how did the road out of town lead him right back into town? Was it a huge circle, or is there some supernatural stuff going on?

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When he stole the car and drove out of the town only to have the road take him right back into town, that reminded me of another summer "limited event" series from a couple years ago: Persons Unknown.

So the final scene explains why he can't leave the town. But how did the road out of town lead him right back into town? Was it a huge circle, or is there some supernatural stuff going on?
I think it was a huge loop.

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I read and enjoyed the books. I too thought this first episode covered a huge amount of ground, but they did it pretty well and I'm sure they wanted to hook people and didn't want them to get bored.

That said, I hope they slow it down a bit in upcoming episodes.
The can't slow it down too much if they plan to cover all three books in 10 episodes. If it is just the first book then yeah, they gotta slow it down.

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I think it was a huge loop.
If so, they didn't do a very good job editing that sequence. He leaves town and there is a specific shot of him leaving town with the "Welcome to Wayward Pines" sign, the shops, and the mountains in the background. He then drives the full loop, ends up back in town, does a U-turn, and then they show him leaving the town again past that same sign, same shops, same mountains. If it were a big loop, then he shouldn't have had to do a U-turn to drive out of town the same way twice.

Unless, of course, is entirely outside the town and he intersected back with the exiting road just before he entered the town again. But if that were the case, he should have seen the fork in the road rather than having it depicted as a straight road out of town that has no forks or intersections and leads him right back into town.

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If so, they didn't do a very good job editing that sequence. He leaves town and there is a specific shot of him leaving town with the "Welcome to Wayward Pines" sign, the shops, and the mountains in the background. He then drives the full loop, ends up back in town, does a U-turn, and then they show him leaving the town again past that same sign, same shops, same mountains. If it were a big loop, then he shouldn't have had to do a U-turn to drive out of town the same way twice.

Unless, of course, is entirely outside the town and he intersected back with the exiting road just before he entered the town again. But if that were the case, he should have seen the fork in the road rather than having it depicted as a straight road out of town that has no forks or intersections and leads him right back into town.
Honestly, and I don't consider this a spoiler, they didn't do a good job of explaining it in the book either. Although, I think they explained that he entered town in a different area than he exited but it should not have been a surprise to him that he was looping.

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They will re-run the pilot in the 8PM slot next week, before E02. I missed the pilot, will be recording it now.

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I did read one of the preview/reviews where it says something I approve of is coming...
Much more of Carla Gugino? I definitely approve of that. I really liked her in the TV series "Karen Sisco" about 10 years ago.

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Much more of Carla Gugino? I definitely approve of that. I really liked her in the TV series "Karen Sisco" about 10 years ago.
I sure hope so. She's billed as the second lead after Matt Dillon. In fact, I first heard about this show last summer when I was looking at her IMDb profile and saw it as an upcoming project. So since I'm a big fan of hers, I've been looking forward to this show ever since. I also really enjoyed Karen Sisco.

I thought it was pretty funny when Ethan was describing Kate to the sheriff and mentioned that she was in her late 20s. I was like, "What, Carla Gugino is mid 40s! Sure, she looks great, but are they really going to try and have her portray a character in her 20s?" So I was glad later when they explained that she only disappeared a few weeks ago in Ethan Burke's world, but that she's been in Wayward Pines for 12 years.

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This felt like several other shows/movies thrown in a blender, but at the same time it wasn't bad and I'll keep watching.

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I thought it was pretty funny when Ethan was describing Kate to the sheriff and mentioned that she was in her late 20s. I was like, "What, Carla Gugino is mid 40s! Sure, she looks great, but are they really going to try and have her portray a character in her 20s?" So I was glad later when they explained that she only disappeared a few weeks ago in Ethan Burke's world, but that she's been in Wayward Pines for 12 years.
I had the exact same reactions.

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They will re-run the pilot in the 8PM slot next week, before E02. I missed the pilot, will be recording it now.
Thanks for mentioning this. I missed catching it, too. I tried to read the books, but didn't get hooked. Hopefully I'll enjoy the series.

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The can't slow it down too much if they plan to cover all three books in 10 episodes. If it is just the first book then yeah, they gotta slow it down.
I assumed the latter. If I learn that they plan to cover all 3 books in 10 episodes, I'll just cancel the SP. No way they could do that and do it well.

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10 episodes is like 7 hours.
The books clock in at maybe 950 pages total.

That doesn't seem completely unreasonable when they regularly make 300 and 400 page books into 2 hour movies.

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I assumed the latter. If I learn that they plan to cover all 3 books in 10 episodes, I'll just cancel the SP. No way they could do that and do it well.
As a lover of the books, I wouldn't mind if they meandered through 1 book a season but it would be canceled before the end of season 1 and they would need to wrap up the final 2 books during a rewritten final episode.

Actually, all three books are one book with 3 parts. It was written in the Kindle independent writer model where they break their books into small "books" so the $1.99 - $3.99 price is an easier buying decision and will add up to a full book price.

Long books are made into 2-3 hour hit movies all the time so spending 2.5 hours per book should be very doable.

I liked episode 1 and will definitely watch the rest. I watched with my wife and son and they spent much of the episode guessing what was happening in Wayward Pines and why. Of course they did not come close to figuring it out.

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Much more of Carla Gugino? I definitely approve of that. I really liked her in the TV series "Karen Sisco" about 10 years ago.
I just read that Shannyn Sossamon (A Knight's Tale) is in it. Haven't seen her in anything decent for a long time.

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I haven't liked anything M. Night Shyamalan has produced or directed but I'll give it a chance. Matt Dillon sucks to. But as long as Carla is in it .....
The place looks like a big Prison with the fences,,, I hate that Dr. to from Captain America is in it.
The whole show reminds me of the Dome... and there was another show a few years ago like this with about 6 people woke up in a empty city and couldn't escape. So this will last about 7 episodes imho.

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If you watched the first episode, it's too late. You have to watch until the end. If you delete your season pass it will record anyway. If you delete your recording, it will play no matter what recording you want to watch. If you try to turn off your TV, it will stay on, even if you pull the plug. If you throw away your TV, the next episode will come in your dreams. There's no way out.

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The whole show reminds me of the Dome...
Please no. While I watched Under the Dome for a while, it was a very cheesy show right from the start. Wayward Pines is (or at least attempts to be) more cinematic. It seems like they're going for something similar to LOST or Twin Peaks. I'm guessing that Wayward Pines will be good, rather than great, but in just one episode it's already got Under the Dome beat, in my opinion.

That's too bad about the low ratings. Although who knows, maybe it's a blessing in disguise. I'd rather have them air 10 episodes that show a complete story, than have the show become a hit and get renewed for a second season that was never part of the plan (or the books the show is based on).

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Book 1 Wayward Pines prologue - Blake Crouch on how he was inspired by Twin Peaks during the writing of the Pines series.

http://drippler.com/drip/how-series-...s-blake-crouch

There are no spoilers in the article.

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Take it here already, sheesh! http://forums.onlinebookclub.org

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I'm intrigued by shows like this, but was never a big M. Night Shyamalan fan given his tendency to always end everything with a big swerve. That said, I have not read the books and hope I can make it through this series without stumbling across any spoilers. The first episode was completely baffling but I like it that way. I started forming my own theory about the town midway through the episode which was partially validated at the end, I just can't fill in all the gaps yet. I hope it turns out to be good because I'm looking forward to more reveals.

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M. Night Shyamalan directed one episode (out of ten) and he's not the showrunner. He has a producer credit, which could mean anything from he was in the room everyday helping to break and write each episode to they just gave him a producer credit so they could use his name in marketing.

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