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03-17-2010, 07:57 AM
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Turn Off Top Menu Banner?
In looking at the premier menu, that top banner with the show thumbnails is really annoying. Has anyone seen if there will be an option to turn it off?
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03-17-2010, 05:38 PM
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what ru lookin at?
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I don't know, but there is an option to use the "classic" interface instead.
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03-17-2010, 06:09 PM
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Someone posted a user's guide somewhere, but I'm going to guess no. Supposedly you'll eventually be able to put other short cuts up there, although there will probably be an ad slot reserved.
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03-18-2010, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nrc
although there will probably be an ad slot reserved.
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That is what i'm worried about. More ads on my menu.
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03-18-2010, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by blam
That is what i'm worried about. More ads on my menu.
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Actually, it looks like less ads in the navigation with them being moved to a banner. That is much better than the current interface that puts ads in the menus themselves.
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03-18-2010, 12:28 PM
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I can't explain
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blam
That is what i'm worried about. More ads on my menu.
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Moxi has no ads
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03-18-2010, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeoTiVo
Moxi has no ads
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Whoopy freekin doo! 
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03-18-2010, 05:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeoTiVo
Moxi has no ads
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No ads as in "no advantages".
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03-18-2010, 05:21 PM
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Location: Bay Area, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blam
In looking at the premier menu, that top banner with the show thumbnails is really annoying. Has anyone seen if there will be an option to turn it off?
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FWIW, I was lucky enough to get to user-test the new UI a year or so ago at Tivo HQ. After just a few minutes I found myself completely ignoring the top banner and just focusing on the menu itself.
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03-18-2010, 09:56 PM
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Location: Chicago, IL
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I never pay attention to the banner in the beta search.
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03-18-2010, 11:08 PM
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As long as McDonands or insurance ads dont scroll across the top.
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03-19-2010, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Xecuter2
As long as McDonands or insurance ads dont scroll across the top.
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That's what you'll probably see when Comcast and other Cable Cos "deploy" this to their customers. Use the existing framework to push tons of ads.
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03-21-2010, 05:45 PM
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Frustrated owner
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After just a few minutes I found myself completely ignoring the top banner and just focusing on the menu itself.
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Nice user testing... I didn't see 1/4 my screen.. LOL.. what's next, Helen Keller will announce she test drove all Toyotas..
What is the point of being a beta tester if you don't see 1/4 of the screen?
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03-21-2010, 07:20 PM
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Cracker Soul
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Originally Posted by bschuler2007
Nice user testing... I didn't see 1/4 my screen.. LOL.. what's next, Helen Keller will announce she test drove all Toyotas..
What is the point of being a beta tester if you don't see 1/4 of the screen?
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There has been a beta forum for over a year for commenting on the TiVo Search interface on which this new UI is based. Did you provide some of your constructive criticism there?
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03-21-2010, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by moyekj
No ads as in "no advantages". |
Spoken like someone who's never seen a Moxi. Both units have advantages over each other, but there are quite a few things Moxi does circles around Tivo on. (3 tuners, better search, better conflict navigation, true multi room viewing). Tivo has a better general interface (slower ! damn it Tivo put some cpu in these things) and direct integration with Netflix/Amazon.
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03-22-2010, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf15
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The real benefit of the Premiere would be the on board Flash decoding since that will potentially result in the best speed bump.
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03-22-2010, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jmpage2
The real benefit of the Premiere would be the on board Flash decoding since that will potentially result in the best speed bump.
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While good from one perspective, as an IT guy, I must admit being leery of any device that is Flash-based. I've seen too much incompetence by Adobe, resulting in instability, security issues, and high resource usage.
Since the Tivo involves a controlled hardware environment, it is likely it can avoid these issues (at least, if they hired topnotch Flash/Actionscript developers), but it will be interesting to see how the Premiere works out. As one of the early-adopters, I'll end up finding out firsthand.
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03-22-2010, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf15
While good from one perspective, as an IT guy, I must admit being leery of any device that is Flash-based. I've seen too much incompetence by Adobe, resulting in instability, security issues, and high resource usage.
Since the Tivo involves a controlled hardware environment, it is likely it can avoid these issues (at least, if they hired topnotch Flash/Actionscript developers), but it will be interesting to see how the Premiere works out. As one of the early-adopters, I'll end up finding out firsthand.
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I have these same concerns, on the plus side though, this will likely result in accelerated development of apps and features for the new boxes.
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03-22-2010, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jmpage2
I have these same concerns, on the plus side though, this will likely result in accelerated development of apps and features for the new boxes.
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That's the whole point of Flash right there.
The old interface was built in a C and had countless dependencies that made changes difficult (or impossible without a major rewrite).
Flash development will be an order of magnitude more efficient.
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03-22-2010, 03:24 PM
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Jedi Pirate Ninja
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Originally Posted by bkdtv
That's the whole point of Flash right there.
The old interface was built in a C and had countless dependencies that made changes difficult (or impossible without a major rewrite).
Flash development will be an order of magnitude more efficient.
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Flash development, by its very nature, is often inefficient.
If you substituted "flexible" for "efficient", then I'd agree with you. For all of us who work in computers and have seen a 720p Flash video bring a system to its knees, or have experienced the nightmare of patching it almost every month due to securities that opened a system wide to infection, or have tried to implement a patching system in the enterprise (sigh just thinking about that one), "efficient" is not a word I'd use.
Trust me, I dearly hope my concerns will be unfounded. After all, I've got one of these boxes pre-ordered as well. 
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03-23-2010, 08:02 AM
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Flash Wrong Way To Go
I'm sorry, but Flash for an interface on a HD box? Crazy.
First of all, Flash is animation program. You have to go through crazy hoops to program anything complex on it. It is totally crash prone once you get it beyond showing a ball bouncing around.
Second, it is slooooooow. And judging from the videos I saw, the interface looks amazingly slow.
TiVo. I'm not sure who sold you on a flash interface, but suck it up and go back to C. I can't have my TiVo interface being slow and crashy.
Flash is fine for little web ads, and games, but for a rock solid super fast HD TV interface? Nope.
I had one ordered, but after seeing the video of how slow the UI was, and those horrible pictures up top that will surely be cheezy internet ads with a dancing guy over low mortgage rates, I cancelled my order and will wait and see how the reviews go.
TiVo. I love ya man. But ads on top, and slow flash interface, this was a wrong move.
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03-23-2010, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by blam
TiVo. I love ya man. But ads on top, and slow flash interface, this was a wrong move.
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I think you are jumping to conclusions. The demo was being performed on a beta version of the HDUI. I believe it was also mentioned that the search was loading items slowly in the demo because of a flaky internet connection, as well as the fact that they hadn't optimized the caching yet.
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03-23-2010, 09:46 AM
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I can't explain
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it amazes me how people pre-judge an item that has not even shipped yet. Good thing Moxi's with HD interface can be ordered right now - have not heard anyone describe the Moxi interface as slow.
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03-23-2010, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeoTiVo
it amazes me how people pre-judge an item that has not even shipped yet. Good thing Moxi's with HD interface can be ordered right now - have not heard anyone describe the Moxi interface as slow.
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Good God, do you get a free toaster with every 100th Moxi reference in a totally unrelated thread? 
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03-23-2010, 11:49 AM
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One thing I hope and would be interested to see is the ability added over time to possible customize the UI. I don't know if this is possible with flash, but it sounds like it might since you will have the choice between classic and HD.
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03-23-2010, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by innocentfreak
One thing I hope and would be interested to see is the ability added over time to possible customize the UI. I don't know if this is possible with flash, but it sounds like it might since you will have the choice between classic and HD.
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UI "Themes" would be cool to match a room decor. 
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03-23-2010, 12:39 PM
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UI "Themes" would be cool to match a room decor. |
Speaking of themes, I recently discovered "Gradient iCool" for Firefox. I find it quite soothing.
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03-23-2010, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by innocentfreak
One thing I hope and would be interested to see is the ability added over time to possible customize the UI. I don't know if this is possible with flash, but it sounds like it might since you will have the choice between classic and HD.
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I can't see TiVo making their interface skinnable. It would be cool though.
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03-23-2010, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gweempose
I think you are jumping to conclusions. The demo was being performed on a beta version of the HDUI. I believe it was also mentioned that the search was loading items slowly in the demo because of a flaky internet connection, as well as the fact that they hadn't optimized the caching yet.
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It is better to jump to conclusions first than find out after investing into the new TiVo box that TiVo has jumped the shark and sold us out with a slow flash interface for profitable cheezy internet ads.
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