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03-04-2010, 05:38 AM
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Will WinMFS work on Tivo Premier?
Does anyone know whether WinMFS will work on a Premier? I might upgrade depending on what I can get for one of my HD's with lifetime, but upgrading the hard drive is a must.
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03-04-2010, 06:35 AM
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Spike (winMFS) posted in his form
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Don't have a clue since I don't have a box to look at.
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03-04-2010, 07:23 AM
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I guess I'll wait, I'm not really sure it's worth it anyway.
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03-04-2010, 10:02 AM
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Spike (winMFS) posted in his form
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Don't have a clue since I don't have a box to look at.
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Why isn't this obvious to everyone? The box has been announced, not released.
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03-04-2010, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by orangeboy
Why isn't this obvious to everyone? The box has been announced, not released.
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True, but you can't blame people for being excited. The TiVo landscape has been stagnant for so long, now that the next series of boxes has finally been announced, people are scrambling for any bit of information they can get. I think people realize that there are no concrete answers to a lot of their questions. In many cases, they are probably just hoping for someone to make an educated guess. 
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03-04-2010, 12:16 PM
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Educated guess: There is no reason to expect any difference from previous models in this regard. Same disk layout, same filesystems.
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03-04-2010, 12:20 PM
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My current plan is not to expand stock hard drive on my units. I will rely on my TiVo Desktop PC and my over forty Terabytes of networked storage for keeping shows I want to watch down the road.
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03-04-2010, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronwt
I will rely on my TiVo Desktop PC and my over forty Terabytes of networked storage for keeping shows I want to watch down the road.
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Now that's impressive! 
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03-04-2010, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronwt
My current plan is not to expand stock hard drive on my units. I will rely on my TiVo Desktop PC and my over forty Terabytes of networked storage for keeping shows I want to watch down the road.
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Holy... 9 TiVos, 40 TB of storage... are you a digital hoarder?
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03-04-2010, 03:50 PM
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My hope is that the new device will support PC-Tivo transfer speeds fast enough that video can be backed up to PC storage. Right now you can't transfer back quickly enough to watch in real time unless the video has been transcoded to MP4
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03-04-2010, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronwt
My current plan is not to expand stock hard drive on my units. I will rely on my TiVo Desktop PC and my over forty Terabytes of networked storage for keeping shows I want to watch down the road.
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Damn... My new storage box just has 30TB. It can (more than) max out 10Gbe with sequential transfers though.
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03-04-2010, 04:27 PM
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what ru lookin at?
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Holy... 9 TiVos, 40 TB of storage... are you a digital hoarder? |
Has to be. I've only got 3 Tivos with 1.24TB and a computer with 2TB and I have WAY more stuff than I can watch.
/fellow digital hoarder
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03-04-2010, 04:29 PM
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Impressive or in need of therapy depending on your perspective I suppose.
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03-04-2010, 06:11 PM
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Impressive or in need of therapy depending on your perspective I suppose.
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I need all the storage for my BD ISOs. I'm getting away from discs and by ripping my BD titles(and HD DVD) to an ISO, I can easily and quickly view it from a media player. ANd it's just like watching it from the disc, only I don't have to deal with the disc. ANd since I have over 750 HD titles(BD and HD DVD combined) I need alot of storage.
Plus I have a lot of HD content that I recorded between 2001 and 2004 from OTA that I want to keep.
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03-04-2010, 08:33 PM
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I need all the storage for my BD ISOs. I'm getting away from discs and by ripping my BD titles(and HD DVD) to an ISO, I can easily and quickly view it from a media player. ANd it's just like watching it from the disc, only I don't have to deal with the disc. ANd since I have over 750 HD titles(BD and HD DVD combined) I need alot of storage.
Plus I have a lot of HD content that I recorded between 2001 and 2004 from OTA that I want to keep.
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You don't have to justify yourself, whatever floats your boat. I can't fill up 4 tuners personally, so the thought of needing 18 of them is a bit mind boggling.
I also haven't found a high quality way to play ripped BD ISO images so I have not gone that route yet with my far more modest BD collection.
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03-04-2010, 10:08 PM
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You don't have to justify yourself, whatever floats your boat. I can't fill up 4 tuners personally, so the thought of needing 18 of them is a bit mind boggling.
I also haven't found a high quality way to play ripped BD ISO images so I have not gone that route yet with my far more modest BD collection.
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The new media players can play the BD ISOs just like when a disc is played in a BD player.
They will bitstream the advanced audio and send out the 1080P24 video just like a stand alone BD player will.
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03-04-2010, 10:46 PM
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As much as I love the idea of buying a ton of BDs, ripping them, and streaming them across my network, I've been hesitant to do this. In fact, I haven't bought very many BDs at all, because I firmly believe the future lies in VOD. Having owned a Vudu box for a while now, as well as being a Netflix subscriber, I can clearly see where the technology is heading. The real wake up call for me came when I started using Rhapsody several years back. All of the sudden I had access to virtually any song I wanted to listen to for only a small monthly fee. To me, this was utter bliss, and I knew it was only a matter of time before the same thing would happen with video.
Believe me, I can certainly appreciate the desire to own a huge catalog of titles. I used to have more than 500 LDs, and I took great pride in my collection. Sadly, those LDs are long gone now. Most of them were sold off on eBay, and the rest were given to my brother. I think my LD collection was an eye opener for me. Once DVD came along, most of my collection was suddenly rendered obsolete. I then had to decide if I wanted to upgrade my collection to DVD, and when I thought about it, I realized that most of the movies in my collection were only viewed once. Heck, some were never even viewed at all.
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03-05-2010, 02:05 AM
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I am crossing my fingers that 2TB internal drive upgrade would be supported by Premiere, but we will probably need to get the XL version for that (just like THD & XL)
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03-05-2010, 02:50 AM
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Back to the thread topic ... were there no Premiere beta testers who might have checked on expanding internal storage and now might be able to give us a hint as to whether or not it's possible.
Also, I realized after I had placed my order for a new Premiere that I'm not sure pyTiVo will work with the new box, either. My enjoyment of TiVo would be seriously compromised if I couldn't transfer movies etc. from my computer to TiVo (and don't tell me about TiVo Desktop. Paid for the Plus version, hated it, never use it.)
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03-05-2010, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronwt
The new media players can play the BD ISOs just like when a disc is played in a BD player.
They will bitstream the advanced audio and send out the 1080P24 video just like a stand alone BD player will.
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The only one I have found that can do this in any kind of seamless fashion is the Popcorn hour, and it doesn't seem to get a lot of love.
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03-05-2010, 08:25 AM
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The only one I have found that can do this in any kind of seamless fashion is the Popcorn hour, and it doesn't seem to get a lot of love.
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That's because the C200 is expensive as hell and they have a history of releasing flaky firmware without regression testing.
Have you tried the Western Digital TV Live? I haven't tried a BR ISO (though I'm told it works) but it plays all the rips I've made assuming they're L4.1-compliant.
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03-05-2010, 08:29 AM
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Back to the thread topic ... were there no Premiere beta testers who might have checked on expanding internal storage and now might be able to give us a hint as to whether or not it's possible.
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Even if there are any beta testers here in the forum, they're probably still bound by the NDA until the release.
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03-05-2010, 08:33 AM
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That's because the C200 is expensive as hell and they have a history of releasing flaky firmware without regression testing.
Have you tried the Western Digital TV Live? I haven't tried a BR ISO (though I'm told it works) but it plays all the rips I've made assuming they're L4.1-compliant.
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I will probably just wait until XBMC can handle BD ISO images (I use it with DVD images now and it works fairly well) natively. Thanks for the info though, I wasn't aware of any boxes other than the C200 that could do this.
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03-05-2010, 08:45 AM
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Even if there are any beta testers here in the forum, they're probably still bound by the NDA until the release.
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That's why I was asking for a hint ... wink wink, nudge nudge ...
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03-05-2010, 11:26 AM
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Also, I realized after I had placed my order for a new Premiere that I'm not sure pyTiVo will work with the new box, either.
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It will. Better, even. Or so I'm told.
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03-05-2010, 11:35 AM
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Back to the thread topic ... were there no Premiere beta testers who might have checked on expanding internal storage
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it seems logical that any company would want people testing the product as is versus doing unsupported things and wasting testing resources.
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03-05-2010, 11:50 AM
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WinMFS, as it stands now, will not work with the Premier. The new partition for the sqlLite database breaks backwards compatibility.
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03-05-2010, 01:15 PM
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WinMFS, as it stands now, will not work with the Premier. The new partition for the sqlLite database breaks backwards compatibility.
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Sounds like you have access to one. Would you be willing to post the partition list from pdisk or from winmfs, assuming those tools can still read the current partition table structure?
Seems like with partition 14 in use, there would still be two more free (15 and 16) that could be used with the current style of two partition zone additions, so it isn't immediately obvious to me that winmfs won't work. Have you tried it?
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03-05-2010, 02:45 PM
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I need all the storage for my BD ISOs. I'm getting away from discs and by ripping my BD titles(and HD DVD) to an ISO, I can easily and quickly view it from a media player. ANd it's just like watching it from the disc, only I don't have to deal with the disc. ANd since I have over 750 HD titles(BD and HD DVD combined) I need alot of storage.
Plus I have a lot of HD content that I recorded between 2001 and 2004 from OTA that I want to keep.
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Do you ever leave the house?
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03-05-2010, 02:50 PM
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Seems like with partition 14 in use, there would still be two more free (15 and 16) that could be used with the current style of two partition zone additions, so it isn't immediately obvious to me that winmfs won't work. Have you tried it?
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Agreed regarding expansion. Backup and transferring an image won't work unless you manually transplant partition 14.
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