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04-21-2009, 11:49 AM
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Tivo, in HD!
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Originally Posted by KevinSartori
I finally got it myself last night. I dunno. I don't think the ads are that big of a deal. I mostly use the 30s skip anyway, so I don't see it too often. Besides, I'm more concerned that TiVo won't survive in the long term, so if this helps their bottom line, I can live with it.
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While I'm no fan of ads, I have to agree.
This is about as un-obtrusive as it comes. I don't even really consider this an ad as it seems to link to swivel search or whatever they're calling it this week.
It would be nice to have the option to turn it off in the config menus though as it is a feature I'll never use.
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04-21-2009, 12:40 PM
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#152
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Originally Posted by Shawn95GT
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This is about as un-obtrusive as it comes. I don't even really consider this an ad ....
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I would consider this both extremely obtrusive and an ad!
Snapped last night while watching Law & Order Criminal Intent recording:
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04-21-2009, 02:32 PM
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#153
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Originally Posted by RoyK
Snapped last night while watching Law & Order Criminal Intent recording:
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Is TiVo trying to say everyone who watches Law & Order CI is fat?
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04-21-2009, 03:03 PM
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What happened, TiVo?
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This is almost the same amount of nonsense complaining we got when Tivo introduced the "star" on the main menu.
It's meaningless, and almost completely unobtrusive. If you hate it so much you can't control yourself, then leave Tivo - you're not the kind of customer they want.
The rest of us will continue to enjoy Tivo without skipping a beat.
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04-21-2009, 03:39 PM
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#155
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I have 11.0c and don't get this. What gives?
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04-21-2009, 04:17 PM
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I can't explain
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Originally Posted by morac
Is TiVo trying to say everyone who watches Law & Order CI is fat? 
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no I think it is more aimed at people who seem to find it strenuous to push down the FF or clear button
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04-21-2009, 06:19 PM
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!!.0c
I got the new update on my S3 and HD TIVO's yesterday. I saw the new "feature", and it's something I could do without. However, this morning I tried it again on "the Price Is Right" on CBS in HD. It didn't work! Later on I tried it again in SD and it still wasn't working. I don't know of anything I did to disable it. SO, did TIVO turn it off?
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04-21-2009, 06:45 PM
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Tivo, in HD!
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lol - I've never seen a star pop on top of the 'more about'.
All I get is the 'more about' menu.
I'd agree - that's an ad, and annoying at that as it's popped over the menu.
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04-21-2009, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by morac
Is TiVo trying to say everyone who watches Law & Order CI is fat? 
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Well, that is a stretched picture....
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04-21-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AbMagFab
This is almost the same amount of nonsense complaining we got when Tivo introduced the "star" on the main menu.
It's meaningless, and almost completely unobtrusive. If you hate it so much you can't control yourself, then leave Tivo - you're not the kind of customer they want.
The rest of us will continue to enjoy Tivo without skipping a beat.
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That's funny, I was the "kind of customer they wanted" when they did not add this junk. I did not change - they did. Yes, of course, they reserve the right to shove this down the throats of folks whether they want it or not. I'm sure that supporters of this also have no trouble when credit card companies raise their rates - just part of the contract.
The "ads" or whatever those in favor call them are getting more intrusive. Maybe it will soon be like Hulu - you will have to watch a certain number of ads or the show will not progress.
And leaving - well, if I were a month to month, maybe, but I've paid for Lifetime.
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04-21-2009, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawn95GT
lol - I've never seen a star pop on top of the 'more about'.
All I get is the 'more about' menu.
I'd agree - that's an ad, and annoying at that as it's popped over the menu.
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I was only getting the "more about" ad until this week, and I thought it was certainly acceptable, but today I'm awash in "Realize Band" ads everywhere, in multiple folders, and on the "More About" screens, that's actually ticked me off.
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04-22-2009, 10:43 AM
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On my THD I noticed a something nice - not sure if this is part of the new update, though. I recorded something by hitting the record button on the remote. This manual recording overlapped into the next hour where I had two season passes set up. One of the season passes was for the same channel as that of the manual recording.
Instead of a recording being clipped, the manual and the season pass (overlapping on the same channel) both recorded for their allotted time, duplicating the overlap. This is a nice improvement. Anyone else notice this? Or perhaps it was in a prior release and I just didn't notice it?
BTW, I can train myself not to notice the pause ads. Or train my thumb to hit the clear or down key when it hits the pause key. As annoyances go, it is fairly minor, especially since it is easy to get rid of.
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04-22-2009, 07:50 PM
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#163
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Running Out of Guide Data
I'm not sure if this is a bug with the new version or because of the tuning adapter but this morning when I hit the Tivo button I saw a message on the bottom saying my program information goes to April 29th. My network setting showed a successful connection the previous day but I still forced a connection. This evening the message was still there but I have successful connection. I went to the system info screen and it had the same date. I rebooted the Tivo and went to the system info and the date changed to May 5th. Anyone have this happen before? This is a first for me.
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04-22-2009, 08:01 PM
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#164
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Absolutely crappy and purely annoying feature. They should have an option to disable this one.
At least the backdoor to quickly disable the progress bar clears this new annoyance instantly too. It's a pain to enable it now, but you can do it as long as the title bar is up and you quickly enter the code on a previously recorded show.
If they take away the backdoor to quickly clear the progress bar, then you'll see me ranting like a lunatic everywhere....
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04-22-2009, 10:02 PM
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#165
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New problem with 11.0C.
My menus, especially the Now Playing list, have become horribly sluggish - taking about a full minute to display everything. I only have four programs in the list. Each subsequent menu change into submenus is taking 30 seconds to a full minute to complete.
Anyone else?
Thanks,
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04-22-2009, 11:45 PM
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#166
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SELECT PLAY SELECT PAUSE SELECT
no bar, no ad. ever.
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04-23-2009, 05:18 AM
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Where are these pause advertisements? The only thing I notice when I pause is it asking me if I want to know more info on the program I'm watching, but I haven't seen any advertisements when I pause a program.
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04-23-2009, 05:40 AM
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Tivo Fan
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Location: Indiana
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The advertisements are only on some shows. For example on Scrubs last night they added a line with a Star and a link to the REALIZE Personalized Banding Solution http://www.realizeband.com
Should I be offended that Tivo knows I watch too much Tivo and am more likely to need this product
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04-23-2009, 08:10 AM
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HAVE BRAIN WILL USE!
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AAron, I see only that too, and reason is I am not networked, it just dials in. Most ads are sent over internet. While they could phone them, it would take a LONG time and they don't. I do still see some movie trailers and such they show on TV late at night on Ion network. In time they may distribute commercials there, but not if most are networked, at least I hope.
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04-23-2009, 08:37 AM
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I finally got 11c yesterday and the paused "ads" are annoying but more annoying is that the audio bug is worse now; even when switching tuners the audio will go out occasionally and when going from hd to sd or analog it has a tendency to go out often. I'm using hdmi all the way so it's obviously tied in with a handshake issue. I'm strongly considering going component and optical or should I wait for them to fix the bug?
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04-23-2009, 09:13 AM
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Oh, him again...
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Originally Posted by stujac
I finally got 11c yesterday and the paused "ads" are annoying but more annoying is that the audio bug is worse now; even when switching tuners the audio will go out occasionally and when going from hd to sd or analog it has a tendency to go out often. I'm using hdmi all the way so it's obviously tied in with a handshake issue. I'm strongly considering going component and optical or should I wait for them to fix the bug?
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Are you talking about dropouts on the audio? Because I get them with HDMI and optical. And they aren't there in the source material, because if I hit "jump back 8 seconds" there's no dropout the second time through.
As far as the ads go, I think I'm more offended that my TiVo thinks I'm fat than I am at the mere presence of an ad (however annoying).
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04-23-2009, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Onibroc42
As far as the ads go, I think I'm more offended that my TiVo thinks I'm fat than I am at the mere presence of an ad (however annoying).
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This could be good information for us..are you fat ??? I get ads for AARP medicare plans and i am over 65, does TiVo know more that we think about us ??
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04-23-2009, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Onibroc42
Are you talking about dropouts on the audio? Because I get them with HDMI and optical. And they aren't there in the source material, because if I hit "jump back 8 seconds" there's no dropout the second time through.
As far as the ads go, I think I'm more offended that my TiVo thinks I'm fat than I am at the mere presence of an ad (however annoying).
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Not so much dropouts, I have them rarely but I'm talking about the audio cutting out completely and I can't get it back unless I do any number of things; swap tuners or change channels, etc.
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04-23-2009, 10:01 AM
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These are like banner ads. eventually everyone will tune them out, but Tivo will make $ until the advertisers realize it.
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04-23-2009, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by stujac
Not so much dropouts, I have them rarely but I'm talking about the audio cutting out completely and I can't get it back unless I do any number of things; swap tuners or change channels, etc.
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My wife had this problem for the first time last night, I changed the channel to see if the problem was in the TiVo system, sound was ok on the new channel, went back to the original channel and it was ok I though the problem was the channel itself and it got fixed when i was off that channel..I guess not.
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04-23-2009, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by fred2
I'm sure that supporters of this also have no trouble when credit card companies raise their rates - just part of the contract.
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Of course it is just part of the contract. You don't like it, you can take your business elsewhere. Vote with your dollar, instead of whining about it. Whining won't solve a thing.
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Originally Posted by fred2
The "ads" or whatever those in favor call them are getting more intrusive.
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Hardly.
I've been a Tivo user since late '06, and despite all the changes I still don't see anything "intrusive" about ads. These people need to make money, and the fees we pay them (lifetime/monthly/whatever) certainly DON'T warrant ad free service.
Tivo is basically trying to give the customer new experiences, something that they might be interested in. You can't fault them for that, or for trying to make a profit at all.
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Originally Posted by fred2
Maybe it will soon be like Hulu - you will have to watch a certain number of ads or the show will not progress.
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That's just hillarious. Tivo has never, ever intruded on the viewing experience at all. They will continue to keep that up. Have they "intruded" on their own screens (ie: pause, menus, etc)? Yes, they have added ads, but they have NOT intruded. Just because a handful of users object to ads (hey, I hate them myself) doesn't mean that Tivo is intruding whatsoever
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And leaving - well, if I were a month to month, maybe, but I've paid for Lifetime.
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Then you REALLY have no reason to complain. A lifetime subscription is incredibly cheap compared to month to month / yearly / etc. Again, stop whining. Either Leave Tivo or just deal with it. You don't have the right to whine about changes like this.
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04-23-2009, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by b_scott
SELECT PLAY SELECT PAUSE SELECT
no bar, no ad. ever.
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If this really works, I will love you forever.
Everyone in the house was complaining about this last night. I don't know why, but it's just flat out annoying. It's like a mosquito feature. That's the best way I can describe it.
Not sure what they were thinking.
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Originally Posted by twhiting9275
Again, stop whining. Either Leave Tivo or just deal with it. You don't have the right to whine about changes like this.
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Get banned. This is a discussion board.
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04-23-2009, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NAHurry
New problem with 11.0C.
My menus, especially the Now Playing list, have become horribly sluggish - taking about a full minute to display everything. I only have four programs in the list. Each subsequent menu change into submenus is taking 30 seconds to a full minute to complete.
Anyone else?
Thanks,
James
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Yes. Have you rebooted/restarted since? I may try that later to see if it helps.
Later,
COZ
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04-23-2009, 10:40 AM
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Oh, him again...
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Originally Posted by lessd
This could be good information for us..are you fat ??? I get ads for AARP medicare plans and i am over 65, does TiVo know more that we think about us ??
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How does it KNOW? GAAAH!
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04-23-2009, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AbMagFab
It's meaningless, and almost completely unobtrusive. If you hate it so much you can't control yourself, then leave Tivo - you're not the kind of customer they want.
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It would be less unobtrusive if the ad wasn't selected by default. It should select the "More about" link by default. It clearly shows the menu is only there for the ad.
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