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11-30-2008, 10:25 PM
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Netflix on TiVo
Its early December in few minutes. According to this article : http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/10/...too-tivo-nflx-
Netflix on TiVo goes live soon. I remember reading somewhere that it would be available on the 1st of December.
What are the chances that we'll see Netflix on Amazon before the end of tomorrow?
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11-30-2008, 10:42 PM
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You might see Netflix around the 10 Dec. Every thing I read about it was around the first part of the month when it would start. When they start downloading HD I might start a subscription to Netflix.
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11-30-2008, 11:13 PM
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what ru lookin at?
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I don't think we'll see it until after the new SW update gets to all the boxes.
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11-30-2008, 11:32 PM
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What is the SW update?
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11-30-2008, 11:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hew
What is the SW update?
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Software update?
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12-01-2008, 12:55 AM
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They are referring to the new 11.0 software. TiVo rolled it out to a limited number of people to make sure there were no significant issues they had missed. Everyone is expected to get it later this month.
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12-01-2008, 02:17 AM
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Duh, of course sw means software update. Just didn't get it right away since I thought sw were two different words rather then SoftWare. Thanks for actually giving me the details bkdtv.
Have any of the thousands of beta testers posted any pics yet?
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12-01-2008, 09:30 AM
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I have the 11.0 but no Netflix functionality yet.
My Roku used to get 4 dot for quality until netflix was released on the xbox 360 now most of the time its 2 dots. Some times it stops twice in a 43 minutes tv episode to buffer a problem I never had before the xbox360. I can only imagine what it will be like when they add Tivo users and HD
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12-01-2008, 09:43 AM
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Netflix already streams in HD, but right now I think the 360 is the only box that can receive the HD. Not all titles are HD, They launched HD about 2 weeks ago with about 300 HD titles. A few of those titles are TV shows. Heroes, NCIS and Numb3rs can all be watched in HD, and even better you can watch them 1 day after they are shown on air. At least that is how it is supposed to work, I know the Nov 25th episode of NCIS was available on the 25th, by 9am EST, before it was shown on air, in the US(no clue if it aired somewhere else previously)
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12-01-2008, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hew
Have any of the thousands of beta testers posted any pics yet?
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TiVo is known to run closed Betas with NDA - Non-Disclosure-Agreements
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12-01-2008, 09:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hew
Duh, of course sw means software update. Just didn't get it right away since I thought sw were two different words rather then SoftWare. Thanks for actually giving me the details bkdtv.
Have any of the thousands of beta testers posted any pics yet?
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tivo.com has a picture of the top level Netflix interface when you first click on Movies&Video link.
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12-01-2008, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aflat
Netflix already streams in HD, but right now I think the 360 is the only box that can receive the HD. Not all titles are HD, They launched HD about 2 weeks ago with about 300 HD titles. A few of those titles are TV shows. Heroes, NCIS and Numb3rs can all be watched in HD, and even better you can watch them 1 day after they are shown on air. At least that is how it is supposed to work, I know the Nov 25th episode of NCIS was available on the 25th, by 9am EST, before it was shown on air, in the US(no clue if it aired somewhere else previously)
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My Samsung Blu-Ray Bdp2550 is able to get the Netflix HD without a problem. I haven't noticed any difference in picture quality between my XBox 360 and my Samsung Blu-ray Player.
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P.S. Keep in Mind though that while HD is better than the SD... it is NOWHERE NEAR the HD Quality you will get from a Blu-ray movie!
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12-01-2008, 11:09 AM
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Is not part of an update. The Tivo boxes just need to be authorized to use the Netflix server. It will come out soon.
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12-01-2008, 11:34 AM
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When it hit the press every single article said dec 1 ... not the 10th not the 15th but the 1st. Two weeks ago i contacted Netflix and asked them when they said their side has been ready for months and just waiting on Tivo. I should order a roku or LG blu-ray cause that way it will get turned on about 30 seconds after my credit card gets charged ... thats how my luck always goes lol
have a great day
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12-01-2008, 11:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ldconfig
When it hit the press every single article said dec 1 ... not the 10th not the 15th but the 1st. Two weeks ago i contacted Netflix and asked them when they said their side has been ready for months and just waiting on Tivo. I should order a roku or LG blu-ray cause that way it will get turned on about 30 seconds after my credit card gets charged ... thats how my luck always goes lol
have a great day
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Just have some patience. Why not set Jan 1 2009 as the date everything will be up and running in your mind and then you won't be disappointed when TiVo doesn't have it going on Dec 1 2008? It's only 31 more days.
I have a feeling that TiVo is doing everything that they can to get the software ready for the masses.
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12-01-2008, 01:12 PM
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The article linked to in the OP said "early December". Netflix just says December 2008. An article in the NYT just says it will be available
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/te...rssnyt&emc=rss
I haven't read a single article that promised availability on December 1.
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Originally Posted by ldconfig
When it hit the press every single article said dec 1 ... not the 10th not the 15th but the 1st. Two weeks ago i contacted Netflix and asked them when they said their side has been ready for months and just waiting on Tivo. I should order a roku or LG blu-ray cause that way it will get turned on about 30 seconds after my credit card gets charged ... thats how my luck always goes lol
have a great day
still stuck in 9.4
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12-01-2008, 01:35 PM
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Sign up to get all the details from Tivo delivered to your e-mail here:
http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/netflix-s...flixprdet_tile
Netflix on TiVo will be available in December! TiVo customers will be able to instantly watch over 12,000 movie & TV episodes from Netflix via any broadband connected TiVo® HD, TiVo® HD XL and TiVo® Series3™ DVRs.
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12-02-2008, 11:52 AM
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I keep checking this thread, hoping to see something. I resubbed to Netflix this week, just so I could check this out on my Mac and on my TiVo. Can't wait to play with it!
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12-02-2008, 02:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hew
Its early December in few minutes. According to this article : http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/10/...too-tivo-nflx-
Netflix on TiVo goes live soon. I remember reading somewhere that it would be available on the 1st of December.
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Sometime in December is correct.
Many of us have YET to get the Fall 2008 update. NEITHER of my TiVo S3/HD units have the update.
The update is REQUIRED before you can get Netflix. Thus... Netflix WON'T be turned "ON" until the full ROLL OUT of the FALL 2008 update has been COMPLETED!
Yes, many have it. Their TiVos are ready for the switch to turn ON netflix.
I am anxiously awaiting as well. I have tested Netflix on both my Blu-Ray and my XBox. It is quite nice. Even though their isn't any DD5.1 or a great selection.
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12-03-2008, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hew
Its early December in few minutes. According to this article : http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/10/...too-tivo-nflx-
Netflix on TiVo goes live soon. I remember reading somewhere that it would be available on the 1st of December.
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I was hoping it would be working on monday. I wanted to watch sliders from netflix on my tv
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12-03-2008, 01:01 PM
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Hopefully when this is rolled out there will be a lot of HD content. It looks like Amazon unbox is going to offer in HD via TiVo soon, so you know that Netflix will as well. I predict HD contant might not come right away, but by the end of 2009, thousands of titles will be available.
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12-04-2008, 07:40 PM
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While we wait, I saw someone in the media today suggest that bluray might never take off if downloading HD takes off first. I think there will probably be a market for bluray, but I could see the average consumer settling for HD downloads. What do you think?
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12-04-2008, 07:59 PM
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Quote:
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While we wait, I saw someone in the media today suggest that bluray might never take off if downloading HD takes off first. I think there will probably be a market for bluray, but I could see the average consumer settling for HD downloads. What do you think?
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Won't happen as long as ISPs are setting ridiculously low caps for monthly bandwidth use - a single HD movie will put some folks over the limit.
Even the Comcast 250GB/month limit isn't enough for one movie a day, and you *know* some people are going to want to download more than that.
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12-04-2008, 07:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doh
While we wait, I saw someone in the media today suggest that bluray might never take off if downloading HD takes off first. I think there will probably be a market for bluray, but I could see the average consumer settling for HD downloads. What do you think?
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Apples and oranges. Blu Ray 1080p/24 titles generally consume >> 20 GB using VC-1 video. Contrast that to for example Netflix streaming 720p/30 HD titles around 2 GB/hour using VC-1 video. i.e. The quality gap is huge and closing the gap would mean an incredible amount of bandwidth needed for streaming to make them comparable.
Not to mention that currently for HD streaming you generally don't get lossless audio or even captions, etc. I see plenty of space for both methods to co-exist. If I want absolute best quality then Blu Ray is the way to go. If I want convenience then HD streaming has it's place. I like having option of both.
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12-04-2008, 08:19 PM
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Apples and oranges. Blu Ray 1080p/24 titles generally consume >> 20 GB using VC-1 video. Contrast that to for example Netflix streaming 720p/30 HD titles around 2 GB/hour using VC-1 video. i.e. The quality gap is huge and closing the gap would mean an incredible amount of bandwidth needed for streaming to make them comparable.
Not to mention that currently for HD streaming you generally don't get lossless audio or even captions, etc. I see plenty of space for both methods to co-exist. If I want absolute best quality then Blu Ray is the way to go. If I want convenience then HD streaming has it's place. I like having option of both.
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The issue is I don't think 99% of Americans care one bit about the difference. Cable companies are already compressing HD channels like crazy, and only a small few even notice. If streaming movies work and is integrated into the devices they use, they are not going to care about the quality difference.
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12-05-2008, 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doh
While we wait, I saw someone in the media today suggest that bluray might never take off if downloading HD takes off first. I think there will probably be a market for bluray, but I could see the average consumer settling for HD downloads. What do you think?
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I am not one to chase the absolute video quality. I can see the differences when I look for them but they do not bug me if not there. I am not one to just pay to get the absolute best quality - I look for value point and ease of use.
I was almost ready to buy a Blu-ray player - but that was to get a netflix streaming device  with some other capability - not so much that i wanted Blu-Ray. Now TiVo will take care of that issue. I can stick with DVD player till then.
So my buying path is
look for LCD/plasma TV with tru2way built in
then get a blu ray player after they have been on market a while and matured
get TiVo with tru2way when it comes out.
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12-05-2008, 07:40 AM
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Interesting. I hadn't heard of tru2way before, but from what I can tell: 1) it seems like it will be a couple of years at best before it's widely available; and 2) if I really like my tivo, it seems as though I could just wait for it to be added to tivo.
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12-05-2008, 09:01 AM
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I think a Blu-ray player with a Netflix enabled TiVo is a good combination. You can get all of the latest movies in Blu-ray, and get lots of TV shows and older movies on demand through Netflix streaming. I've used my 360 for Netflix content and for HD content, the quality is ok. Unless it is an action movie, I don't think I would even bother getting it in Blu-ray if I can just stream it. A great action movie with good sound will still be worth it to get on Blu-ray though.
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12-05-2008, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Doh
Interesting. I hadn't heard of tru2way before, but from what I can tell: 1) it seems like it will be a couple of years at best before it's widely available; and 2) if I really like my tivo, it seems as though I could just wait for it to be added to tivo.
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yes, my idea on my buying plan is to wait for what is coming. It was based out of being happy with the SD and little bit of HD world I am in now. YMMV.
Tru2waywill not be downloaded to any TiVo in use today. It needs new hardware and will be aprt of a series 4 that TiVo is working on now. Probably be out in 2010. Till then my Tivo HD and some series 2 DTs are doing me great.
It really is more the TV I want tru2way enabled so I can use it without a cable box, but that is becuase I am not in any hurry to buy a big LCD TV today. YMMV.
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I think a Blu-ray player with a Netflix enabled TiVo is a good combination.
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I agree. If TiVo had not provided Netflix streaming I would have bought one now to get the streaming to the TV. When I do buy a Blu-ray I will have Netflix streaming on my checklist for comparing them.
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12-05-2008, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeoTiVo
yes, my idea on my buying plan is to wait for what is coming. It was based out of being happy with the SD and little bit of HD world I am in now. YMMV.
Tru2waywill not be downloaded to any TiVo in use today. It needs new hardware and will be aprt of a series 4 that TiVo is working on now. Probably be out in 2010. Till then my Tivo HD and some series 2 DTs are doing me great.
It really is more the TV I want tru2way enabled so I can use it without a cable box, but that is becuase I am not in any hurry to buy a big LCD TV today. YMMV. |
Are you planning on using the tru2way with the series 2?
I'm just trying to understand better. For a tv using a Tivo with cablecards (series 3 and later), tru2way doesn't seem to offer much benefit (except SDV?) and it seems tru2way tvs and series 4 may both be out around 2010 (I guess there are some tvs now, but 2010 was I think the Sony estimate).
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