The Office - 10/23/08 - Crime Aid

[pigonthewing]

Cute episode. Michael and Holly are so right for one another. And Phyliss's hug auction? Awwwww....

But, all that aside, guide data question: Why was the episode description "Michael helps Pam find a part-time job to help pay for art school"? Is that, like, a The Office thing, where the guide data is wrong and that's supposed to be funny? I definitely don't get it.

[bigpuma]

At the beginning of the episode it showed Pam at a new part time job at corporate that Michael helped her get. It was a minor part of the episode though.

[MickeS]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

Cute episode. Michael and Holly are so right for one another. And Phyliss's hug auction? Awwwww....

But, all that aside, guide data question: Why was the episode description "Michael helps Pam find a part-time job to help pay for art school"? Is that, like, a The Office thing, where the guide data is wrong and that's supposed to be funny? I definitely don't get it.

He DID that, it just happened to be a very minor part of the episode (pre-opening credits). I think they probably got a longer description and that's all that made it into the guide.

Yeah, Michael and Holly seem to be a good match, but let's get back to Michael being unhappy soon please.

This was another extremely awkward episode for me. The auction was hard to watch.

[pigonthewing]

Oh. I didn't see the very beginning then, I guess.

[GDG76]

Paaaaammmmmeeeeellllllla!

Crime Reduces Innocence, Make Everyone Angry I Declare (just like his bankruptcy )

The "That's what she said" was possibly the best one ever...

[MacThor]

Originally Posted by GDG76

Paaaaammmmmeeeeellllllla!

Crime Reduces Innocence, Make Everyone Angry I Declare (just like his bankruptcy )

The "That's what she said" was possibly the best one ever...

"It squeaks when you bang it"

"Pammmm-OOOOOO-Laaaaaaaaa"

[JYoung]

Originally Posted by MickeS

Yeah, Michael and Holly seem to be a good match, but let's get back to Michael being unhappy soon please.

I think David Wallace will have something to say about that very shortly.

And hey Jim, it's going to take you a loooooonnnnggg time to get to New York from Woodman Avenue.

[getbak]

"700 and one cent!"

[markymark_ctown]

Originally Posted by GDG76

The "That's what she said" was possibly the best one ever...

Originally Posted by MacThor

"It squeaks when you bang it"

those were said was so quick, i didn't expect it. funny!

[DevdogAZ]

I died laughing at the "That's what she said." It was so quick and delivered so perfectly.

"You're making a knife with a knife?"

"What else would you use?"

It will be interesting to see how the Dwight/Angela/Andy triangle works out. Clearly Angela doesn't want to be with Andy, but she can't admit to herself that she wants to go back to Dwight.

[Steeler Mike]

Who's head will roll over the burglary? Surely somebody is investigating who might have left the door unlocked!

[DevdogAZ]

Originally Posted by Steeler Mike

Who's head will roll over the burglary? Surely somebody is investigating who might have left the door unlocked!

No. I'll bet we never hear about that again. It was just a plot device to get to the auction.

[USAFSSO]

Originally Posted by DevdogAZ

...

It will be interesting to see how the Dwight/Angela/Andy triangle works out. Clearly Angela doesn't want to be with Andy, but she can't admit to herself that she wants to go back to Dwight.

He killed her cat. She cant see past that, but she still will down stairs for a quicky with Dwight.
"That's what she said"


I liked it when Phyllis was talking to Dwight and said "I know...and they know" looking at the camera.

[pigonthewing]

Originally Posted by USAFSSO

I liked it when Phyllis was talking to Dwight and said "I know...and they know" looking at the camera.

That scene made me finally ask out loud what I've been wondering for I-don't-even-know-how-long.

Are we to believe that none of these people watch their show? I mean, obviously, yeah we are... but why? Why would that ever be?

[bruinfan]

damn, i missed the that's what she said line!!! wth!!!

i didn't get the whole point of the auction. it was a fundraiser to raise money for the victims of the burgarly, but the main participants of the fundraiser were the victims. i couldn't get past that.

it's like farm aid, but instead of farmers fighting against aids...

you're always safe with me... i'm a very good screamer.

we'll auction off people, like in the olden days (cut to stan)

huey lewis and the news

darryl and his boys have graciously donated to... go out for a beer, right now.
5 dollars SOLD

the next item.... it just says creed
yeah it's all inclusive.

[DevdogAZ]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

That scene made me finally ask out loud what I've been wondering for I-don't-even-know-how-long.

Are we to believe that none of these people watch their show? I mean, obviously, yeah we are... but why? Why would that ever be?

The premise is that the crew is there getting footage for a documentary movie they're making. There is no show for them to watch.

[pigonthewing]

Originally Posted by bruinfan

darryl and his boys have graciously donated to... go out for a beer, right now.
5 dollars SOLD.

That should not have sold as quickly as it did. A bidding war could definitely have ensued.

[bruinfan]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

That scene made me finally ask out loud what I've been wondering for I-don't-even-know-how-long.

Are we to believe that none of these people watch their show? I mean, obviously, yeah we are... but why? Why would that ever be?

huh?

[bruinfan]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

That should not have sold as quickly as it did. A bidding war could definitely have ensued.

can't tell if you're kidding or not, here... it sounds like you made a joke, but given your unfamiliarity with the show...

[pigonthewing]

pigonthewing
That scene made me finally ask out loud what I've been wondering for I-don't-even-know-how-long.

Are we to believe that none of these people watch their show? I mean, obviously, yeah we are... but why? Why would that ever be?

bruinfan
huh?

If a camera crew were in your office every day, recording things for a TV show, wouldn't you, from time-to-time, watch that show at home? These people know that they're on television, but they never actually go watch themselves on television. I know that in order for several things to work (Dwight and Angela remaining secret), of course, they can't go watch themselves, but it just seems so unrealistic that they wouldn't. It's something I can easily let go, but when they make direct references to the camera crew, it just stands out that much more.

pigonthewing
That should not have sold as quickly as it did. A bidding war could definitely have ensued.

bruinfan
can't tell if you're kidding or not, here... it sounds like you made a joke, but given your unfamiliarity with the show...

Jim bid $5, and it sold. Immediately. "The opportunity to leave that auction" sold for $5. That is way too low. Had Michael let the bidding continue, I'm sure that would have gone much higher. The reason it didn't, of course, is that would have been a blow to Michael's self-esteem to learn how many people didn't want to be there, but still, my point is, to actually fetch money for "crime aid", that valuable item should've been allowed to reach its full potential.

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Just because I haven't watched the show religiously for 6 years doesn't mean I'm a fool. I've seen every episode this season, every episode the two seasons prior, and a decent amount of re-runs here and there which pre-date those.

It's a sitcom. It isn't X-Files. I can join mid-run.

[Mr_Bester]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

[i]pigonthewing
... Had Michael let the bidding continue, I'm sure that would have gone much higher. ....

It was Darryl that called it sold. Then he got out of there.

[6079 Smith W]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

Jim bid $5, and it sold. Immediately. "The opportunity to leave that auction" sold for $5. That is way too low. Had Michael let the bidding continue, I'm sure that would have gone much higher. The reason it didn't, of course, is that would have been a blow to Michael's self-esteem to learn how many people didn't want to be there, but still, my point is, to actually fetch money for "crime aid", that valuable item should've been allowed to reach its full potential.

The reason Darryl jumped on the $5 bid and said "sold" so quick was because Michael said that he was "so going to bid on it" (or words to that effect). Darryl wanted no part of going out for a beer with Michael.

[Lopey]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

[i]pigonthewing

If a camera crew were in your office every day, recording things for a TV show, wouldn't you, from time-to-time, watch that show at home? These people know that they're on television, but they never actually go watch themselves on television. I know that in order for several things to work (Dwight and Angela remaining secret), of course, they can't go watch themselves, but it just seems so unrealistic that they wouldn't. It's something I can easily let go, but when they make direct references to the camera crew, it just stands out that much more.

It's never been said that it's a TV show, and it's never been said that it is taking place present time, it could have easliy been taped a couple of years ago. Plus, like DevdogAZ said it's a documentary.

Plus, they are aware that they are being recorded, that's why they try to trick the cameras and get away from them.

[boywaja]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

[i][
Just because I haven't watched the show religiously for 6 years doesn't mean I'm a fool. I've seen every episode this season, every episode the two seasons prior, and a decent amount of re-runs here and there which pre-date those.

It's a sitcom. It isn't X-Files. I can join mid-run.

Yeah, but you'd be able to contribue to this thread so much more if you'd actually watched this episode completely.

[bruinfan]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

pigonthewing
That scene made me finally ask out loud what I've been wondering for I-don't-even-know-how-long.

Are we to believe that none of these people watch their show? I mean, obviously, yeah we are... but why? Why would that ever be?

bruinfan
huh?

If a camera crew were in your office every day, recording things for a TV show, wouldn't you, from time-to-time, watch that show at home? These people know that they're on television, but they never actually go watch themselves on television. I know that in order for several things to work (Dwight and Angela remaining secret), of course, they can't go watch themselves, but it just seems so unrealistic that they wouldn't. It's something I can easily let go, but when they make direct references to the camera crew, it just stands out that much more.

pigonthewing
That should not have sold as quickly as it did. A bidding war could definitely have ensued.

bruinfan
can't tell if you're kidding or not, here... it sounds like you made a joke, but given your unfamiliarity with the show...

Jim bid $5, and it sold. Immediately. "The opportunity to leave that auction" sold for $5. That is way too low. Had Michael let the bidding continue, I'm sure that would have gone much higher. The reason it didn't, of course, is that would have been a blow to Michael's self-esteem to learn how many people didn't want to be there, but still, my point is, to actually fetch money for "crime aid", that valuable item should've been allowed to reach its full potential.

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Just because I haven't watched the show religiously for 6 years doesn't mean I'm a fool. I've seen every episode this season, every episode the two seasons prior, and a decent amount of re-runs here and there which pre-date those.

It's a sitcom. It isn't X-Files. I can join mid-run.

well, a: no one is calling you a fool... i think everyone has been helpful in trying to catch you up.
b: yeah you can join midrun... but there are obviously storylines and jokes that emanate from season 1... and you have been struggling with them.

Originally Posted by Lopey

It's never been said that it's a TV show, and it's never been said that it is taking place present time, it could have easliy been taped a couple of years ago. Plus, like DevdogAZ said it's a documentary.

Plus, they are aware that they are being recorded, that's why they try to trick the cameras and get away from them.

plus, most documentaries, collect footage for a predetermined time (apparently years for this office), and then take time to put it together. plus what everyone else said.

Originally Posted by 6079 Smith W

The reason Darryl jumped on the $5 bid and said "sold" so quick was because Michael said that he was "so going to bid on it" (or words to that effect). Darryl wanted no part of going out for a beer with Michael.

darryl told michael he couldn't bid cuz it was a conflict of interest. and he wanted to get out of there as fast as possible. a bidding war would extend the time he would be there, plus increase the chance someone he didn't like wins. he can tolerate jim.

and, darryl really had no interest in raising money for crime aid. the whole thing to him, like EVERYTHING michael organizes, is a big joke.

[pigonthewing]

Originally Posted by Lopey

It's never been said that it's a TV show, and it's never been said that it is taking place present time, it could have easliy been taped a couple of years ago. Plus, like DevdogAZ said it's a documentary.

Plus, they are aware that they are being recorded, that's why they try to trick the cameras and get away from them.

Oh, obviously they're aware. It's during scenes just like that (trying to get away from the cameras, etc) (and let's not even mention the "confessional" interviews) that we're reminded what the entire premise of the show is. They're on what is very obviously a form of reality television. I know it has been referred to as a "documentary", but c'mon, that's been in production for 6 years? The film crew must have broadcast part of this by now, even within The Office world, right? The characters obviously know it's going to broadcast eventually - hence their occasional hiding, as you just said - so sometimes the secrets seem a little ridiculous. Once Phyllis pointed out to Dwight that "they" know, it just seems a bit of a stretch that everyone else won't also know as soon as they watch the footage... except that as I said, no one ever seems to watch their own show.

I do suppose the best answer to this would have to be that it is, in fact, a documentary 6+ years in the making. I'll accept that.

[pigonthewing]

Originally Posted by boywaja

Yeah, but you'd be able to contribue to this thread so much more if you'd actually watched this episode completely.

The DVR cut the beginning part with Pam. Really sorry about that. From where it did pick up, there was really no indication I had missed more than a few seconds, what with there never being any further mention about Pam's job 'n all.

[bruinfan]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

pigonthewing
That should not have sold as quickly as it did. A bidding war could definitely have ensued.

bruinfan
can't tell if you're kidding or not, here... it sounds like you made a joke, but given your unfamiliarity with the show...

Jim bid $5, and it sold. Immediately. "The opportunity to leave that auction" sold for $5. That is way too low. Had Michael let the bidding continue, I'm sure that would have gone much higher. The reason it didn't, of course, is that would have been a blow to Michael's self-esteem to learn how many people didn't want to be there, but still, my point is, to actually fetch money for "crime aid", that valuable item should've been allowed to reach its full potential.

and your post could've been a joke comment.

and just to sum up.. reading your post again....
michael didn't end it, darryl did. so the reason it didn't had nothing to do with michael protecting his self esteem. his self esteem did take a hit when he realized it was a ploy to get out of there, and also when darryl didn't let him bid.. more rejection for michael.

[scottykempf]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

I do suppose the best answer to this would have to be that it is, in fact, a documentary 6+ years in the making. I'll accept that.

Lots of documentary films take that long or longer.

"His name? Creed Braton."

"Do you think they can hear us?"
"Not if we turn this dial all the way down."

[bruinfan]

Originally Posted by pigonthewing

Oh, obviously they're aware. It's during scenes just like that (trying to get away from the cameras, etc) (and let's not even mention the "confessional" interviews) that we're reminded what the entire premise of the show is. They're on what is very obviously a form of reality television. I know it has been referred to as a "documentary", but c'mon, that's been in production for 6 years? The film crew must have broadcast part of this by now, even within The Office world, right? The characters obviously know it's going to broadcast eventually - hence their occasional hiding, as you just said - so sometimes the secrets seem a little ridiculous. Once Phyllis pointed out to Dwight that "they" know, it just seems a bit of a stretch that everyone else won't also know as soon as they watch the footage... except that as I said, no one ever seems to watch their own show.

I do suppose the best answer to this would have to be that it is, in fact, a documentary 6+ years in the making. I'll accept that.

the original british series was a limited amount of episodes. so the premise of the show was originally based on the idea that it would end quickly... but they kept going with the show, and kept the documentary premise (which becomes more unrealistic the longer and more outside of the office they go), so you just have to overlook the fact that it's a 6 year documentary process and just go with the story.